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On April 08 2010 19:08 NovaTheFeared wrote: Flash takes his first 2 loss in a row streak (besides the MSL power outage situation) since July'09? He didn't even go a full year?
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him.
wtf lol
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On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that was arrogant. Not really. He just played really safe and didn't risk loosing too much by breaking.
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On April 08 2010 19:11 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him. wtf lol
It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun.
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On April 08 2010 19:06 Barfboy wrote: I really question action's decision to mass muta vs valks/gols He was playing on Triathlon. I'm not convinced any Zerg knows how to win on that map.
"Well why not build hydras versus mass goliath?"
Yes, because Flash can't possibly add tanks, he only has three bases with a guaranteed easy fourth.
If Action had managed to take full air control earlier, he could've punished Flash's egg island expansion and kept Flash at home for fear of mutalisk counter and taken a pile of extra bases. However, Flash was too good with his valks.
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well zergs still havn't beaten T yet on this map
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On April 08 2010 19:13 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:11 alffla wrote:On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him. wtf lol It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun.
It wasn't premature, he lost his Hive. His remaining muta army was worthless (has been for a while aside from a little harassment), he should have transitioned a while back when he saw flash with nothing but goliaths/valks. He had a long time when flash was turtling (while taking a 3rd and 4th) where he was on 4 base (finally getting a 5th one up before losing his nat) during which a tech switch would have kept him in the game.
Maybe he was hoping mutas would keep him in the game all the way until defiler/ultraling.
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United States11390 Posts
On April 08 2010 19:13 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:11 alffla wrote:On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him. wtf lol It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun. ...No, it wasn't.
He lost his hive.
You might want to lay off the "strategical insights" and criticizing progamers when you yourself have admitted that you know nothing of SC strategy or anything relevant.
You were even the one who once lambasted Guemchi for taking an early third with Sair/Reaver on FIGHTING SPIRIT of all maps while questioning his "gamesense."
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Action specifically didn't go hydras earlier on because 3 of his 5 bases couldn't bring ground units out, I imagine. Now, maybe he could have chewed on the eggs with a few lings but that will still take a long time.
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On April 08 2010 19:17 NovaTheFeared wrote: Action specifically didn't go hydras earlier on because 3 of his 5 bases couldn't bring ground units out, I imagine. Now, maybe he could have chewed on the eggs with a few lings but that will still take a long time.
in-base hatches in his main and nat?
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Strange game, valiath vs. mass mutalisk. Because of the island bases, Action had to go muta first. He couldn't really macro hydralisks out of his island bases either, obviously, until he got the lurker upgrade to kill the eggs. So he was stuck in the rut of making more mutas so that Flash couldn't just make a couple tanks and kill his natural immediately, which ended up happening nonetheless. There's a very big transition timing in there somewhere, though, I'm sure.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 08 2010 19:13 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:11 alffla wrote:On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him. wtf lol It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun.
he didn't toy with hyun
yeah i think you should listen to harem's advice..
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On April 08 2010 19:21 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:13 FireGuyX wrote:On April 08 2010 19:11 alffla wrote:On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him. wtf lol It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun. he didn't toy with hyun yeah i think you should listen to harem's advice.. I second this.
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Wow, poor Hwasin. This guy seriously has the toughest luck in SC history.
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On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote: Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time. In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^
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On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote: Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time. In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^ Often the not-quite-best players can win leagues by getting lucky draws, but I agree with your analysis.
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Braavos36370 Posts
On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that arrogant way of playing will one day bite him.
On April 08 2010 19:13 FireGuyX wrote: It was a premature GG by Action, although most likely he would of eventually lost. He also toyed with Hyun. Flash "dragging the game on" actually widened his lead and increased his chances to win. The longer he waited the more he starved out the Zs in those situations. It's a safer play not some "arrogant risk." He probably wins more games if he drags them out.
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On April 08 2010 19:12 luckybeni2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2010 19:08 FireGuyX wrote: Flash dragged the game too long, that was arrogant. Not really. He just played really safe and didn't risk loosing too much by breaking.
lol very few people can win a long game against flash
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France2061 Posts
Just realized that with Midas and Flash qualified the Ro16 is 50% Terrans. Four Zergs, two Protoss for now and they're lucky that they have a group with two tosses guaranteed to advance.
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what. flash iis 80% in his last 10 games now? i say slump
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