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Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
April 08 2010 18:06 GMT
#681
YES! MIDASSSSS
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 08 2010 18:21 GMT
#682
hahahha Flash is losing to scrubs
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 08 2010 18:32 GMT
#683
On April 09 2010 03:21 Chairman Ray wrote:
hahahha Flash is losing to scrubs


Midas isn't what I would call a scrub.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 08 2010 18:48 GMT
#684
On April 09 2010 03:21 Chairman Ray wrote:
hahahha Flash is losing to scrubs

And still advancing. Good day.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
April 08 2010 18:50 GMT
#685
On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote:
Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time.

In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^

Not necessarily.

Better =\= starleague gold.

Are you honestly trying to say Calm and Kwanro were better than everyone else that year? The Clam was good but he wasn't that good. Often, the "better" players are taken down by worse players with huge risk-taking plays, or very unconventional ones. These plays don't make those worse players "better" than the better players, because the better players can do them better; however, a part of SC will always be luck, as it is with any sport. The better players OFTEN win; not always. That's why we have things called "upsets".

And I'm not saying the winners don't deserve their golds. They all do, because they were given rules, a format, and fair games, and they won; however, they're not necessarily always the best.

Having said all that, Hwasin deserves not necessarily GOLD, but he definitely deserves more credit and recognition than he already does. I don't think Hwasin ever could have won gold, but people are being unfortunately negligent of the most consistent player in history, save Nada.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 19:21:35
April 08 2010 19:20 GMT
#686
On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote:
Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time.

In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^


Nada's last hurray was his quarterfinal battle against Jangbi, whose PvT was at absolute god level at the time, and was defeated 2-3. Then Jangbi moved on to the final, where he got raped by Luxury due to his horrendous PvZ. If Nada and Luxury switched their quarterfinal brackets, it is reasonable to argue that Nada would have won the entire tournament.

Gold does not necessarily reflect the best player in the tournament, just the luckiest good player.

Nobody is demanding a gold out of Hwasin. What we do like to see is a semifinal appearance to break his round of 16 jinx.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 08 2010 20:07 GMT
#687
well.... at least he GOT IN!

losing to hyvaa and now midas
cw)minsean(ru
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
April 08 2010 20:19 GMT
#688
First of all it's bad we don't get to see Action further in the tournament coz this Zerg is really good and entertaining to watch.

Secondly it's really fun and admireble to see that Midas still got skill enough to go 2-0 in his group and he beats Flash on the way. Amazing!
Stork protoss legend
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 08 2010 20:42 GMT
#689
atta way Baby Bear! Midas for Hana Daetoo MSL champ!
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 08 2010 20:51 GMT
#690
On April 09 2010 04:20 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:
On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote:
Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time.

In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^


Nada's last hurray was his quarterfinal battle against Jangbi, whose PvT was at absolute god level at the time, and was defeated 2-3. Then Jangbi moved on to the final, where he got raped by Luxury due to his horrendous PvZ. If Nada and Luxury switched their quarterfinal brackets, it is reasonable to argue that Nada would have won the entire tournament.

Gold does not necessarily reflect the best player in the tournament, just the luckiest good player.

Nobody is demanding a gold out of Hwasin. What we do like to see is a semifinal appearance to break his round of 16 jinx.

Nada would not have taken Leta in a Bo5. Leta was quite possibly the scariest TvT player at the time, and coming off defeating Flash in a Bo3. Luxury narrowly edged him with trick plays and a 4pool.
My strategy is to fork people.
OptimusTom
Profile Joined October 2009
United States154 Posts
April 08 2010 23:18 GMT
#691
On April 08 2010 17:27 Belladona wrote:
All this because Nal_ra killed him in the show -_-a


Flash's weakness is old school players.
hubson
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden93 Posts
April 08 2010 23:57 GMT
#692
smiling babybear makes me happy^_^!!! sad that he is not on skt1 anymore
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8089 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-09 01:22:35
April 09 2010 01:03 GMT
#693
On April 09 2010 05:51 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 04:20 dukethegold wrote:
On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:
On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote:
Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time.

In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^

Nada's last hurray was his quarterfinal battle against Jangbi, whose PvT was at absolute god level at the time, and was defeated 2-3. Then Jangbi moved on to the final, where he got raped by Luxury due to his horrendous PvZ. If Nada and Luxury switched their quarterfinal brackets, it is reasonable to argue that Nada would have won the entire tournament.

Gold does not necessarily reflect the best player in the tournament, just the luckiest good player.

Nobody is demanding a gold out of Hwasin. What we do like to see is a semifinal appearance to break his round of 16 jinx.

Nada would not have taken Leta in a Bo5. Leta was quite possibly the scariest TvT player at the time, and coming off defeating Flash in a Bo3. Luxury narrowly edged him with trick plays and a 4pool.

No way, I'm calling BS here. Leta was so dominate in TvT that he had to BBS Flash out of the MSL in the deciding game? Leta was a great TvT'er but that MU (at the time) definitely was nowhere close to Jangbi's god level PvT (at the time) (which Nada 2-3'ed against.) I think Nada would have been close to evenly matched with Leta at the time.

Also, Luxury narrowly edged him out because Leta played really badly and choked... especially game 4. And it's not like Leta didn't use any tricky builds..
DavidCanFly
Profile Joined November 2009
United States35 Posts
April 09 2010 01:11 GMT
#694
Yay go midas! :D old school players ftw.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 09 2010 01:14 GMT
#695
On April 08 2010 19:32 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 19:09 Kwanroller wrote:
Really, Hwasin is one of those guys that probably would have won a Starleague by now if he didn't keep running into Savior and Bisu like every single time.

In other word, he doesn't deserve a Starleague gold since there are always players who are better than him. ^_^


I never said he *deserved* to win one. Its just unfortunate he can't get any luck like Calm, who won his Starleague by playing one matchup, ZvZ. Instead, Hwasin either plays the best player of the era or lands himself in a teamkill situation.

Hwasin should be playing Midas but ends up playing Flash in a series match because Midas got out of his group 2-0: a summary of Hwasin's career.
JaimeR
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
148 Posts
April 09 2010 13:30 GMT
#696
On April 08 2010 17:28 JohnColtrane wrote:
worst day in the history of progaming imo


Midas used to be the shit. You ought to be pleased that an old school player managed to beat Flash, showing that old people are still relevant in today's society. Get off their lawns, you damn youths.
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