I think Flash's main fault was getting hasty in destroying that expo with his goliaths. Probably should have turtled a bit until he got 3rd gas and better map control

xxxxxxb

155 Posts

April 07 2010 10:51 GMT

#462

On April 07 2010 19:44 KristianJS wrote:
Commentators saying Baby could nuke HWasin if he wanted, but probably won't because Hwasin is older.

So basically Baby won't be doing nukes for quite some time.

tomatriedes

New Zealand5356 Posts

April 07 2010 10:51 GMT

#463

On April 07 2010 19:04 trucane wrote:
Seriously... Can someone tell me why flash went mech? seems like he would have won easily over someone like hyvaa with bio

Flash lost to hyun with a bio build on Match Point I think so maybe not so easily..

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

April 07 2010 10:53 GMT

#464

many people are going to leave once Calm vs ZerO is done lol.
Match Point is Flash's weakpoint.

Kwanroller

Afghanistan459 Posts

April 07 2010 10:53 GMT

#465

On April 07 2010 19:53 Kenpachi wrote:
many people are going to leave once Calm vs ZerO is done lol.

No dude, the chicks LOVE Forgg.

prosatan

Romania8966 Posts

April 07 2010 10:54 GMT

#466

On April 07 2010 19:51 tomatriedes wrote:

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Flash lost to hyun with a bio build on Match Point I think so maybe not so easily..

Flash lost to Hyun cuz his turret placement was awful and hyuns mutas inflicted him a lot of damage!
Even with his bad start, Flash was in the game, and hyun barely take him out

writer22816

United States5775 Posts

April 07 2010 10:54 GMT

#467

Forgg is a baller

hefty

Denmark555 Posts

April 07 2010 10:54 GMT

#468

On April 07 2010 19:51 xxxxxxb wrote:

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So basically Baby won't be doing nukes for quite some time.

Lol!

Deserves credit.

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

April 07 2010 10:55 GMT

#469

i love this DT ad

boesthius

United States11637 Posts

April 07 2010 10:55 GMT

#470

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fallingdream

Romania452 Posts

April 07 2010 10:55 GMT

#471

On April 07 2010 19:48 Scaramanga wrote:

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On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:14 cascades wrote:

On April 07 2010 19:13 fallingdream wrote:
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I know it's not. I just cannot begin to understand why would someone play different when he is good as something, and imo, the best m&m micro at the moment. Flash has the strongest late game and yet he does this mech shit... why? why would you do that? WHY?

To mix up your game. To know how important it is, read up Bisu.

but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this?

You answered your own question.

Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question.

If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things.

Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation.

To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off.

I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever.

So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that?

how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won.

I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio
Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight"

yes and I've said my peace regarding those 3 games he lost, I'm not going to rewrite them for the 3rd time, if you are interested you can search and see what I wrote for yourself. as for him thinking mech would give him the best chance of winning, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows why he chose to play mech, except him and his coaches. this is why I feel like, if him and his coaches feel like they are better off ignoring his mistakes instead of correcting them, then he deserves to lose and get eliminated. you have no idea how much I want flash to win another OSL and at the same time win MSL, but if that is their strategy, to hell with what happened let's try something new and stupid on that particular map, then so be it, but don't expect all of his fans to say "oh well shucks, shit happens". no, shit doesn't happen, he let it happen.

cabarkapa

United States1013 Posts

April 07 2010 10:56 GMT

#472

On April 07 2010 19:54 hefty wrote:

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Lol!

Deserves credit.

Actually I just finished rewatching Baby vs Hyun on match point because that's when I first discovered his awesomeness and he did nuke the base that you can nuke safely from your main.

prosatan

Romania8966 Posts

April 07 2010 10:56 GMT

#473

Baby has 360 apm! OMG
Looks like July and By.Hero have a big influence!

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

April 07 2010 10:56 GMT

#474

On April 07 2010 19:53 Kwanroller wrote:

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No dude, the chicks LOVE Forgg.

i also love watching failgg fail.

tomatriedes

New Zealand5356 Posts

April 07 2010 10:58 GMT

#475

On April 07 2010 19:54 prosatan wrote:

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Flash lost to Hyun cuz his turret placement was awful and hyuns mutas inflicted him a lot of damage!
Even with his bad start, Flash was in the game, and hyun barely take him out

The point is he lost- so there was nothing wrong with trying a mech build instead.

motbob

United States12546 Posts

April 07 2010 10:58 GMT

#476

On April 07 2010 19:56 cabarkapa wrote:

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Actually I just finished rewatching Baby vs Hyun on match point because that's when I first discovered his awesomeness and he did nuke the base that you can nuke safely from your main.

Well, there's a difference between nuking because you're so ahead and nuking because it will give an advantage.