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On April 07 2010 19:55 fallingdream wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 19:48 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:14 cascades wrote:
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To mix up your game. To know how important it is, read up Bisu. but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this? You answered your own question. Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question. If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things. Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation. To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off. I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever. So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that? how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won. I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight" yes and I've said my peace regarding those 3 games he lost, I'm not going to rewrite them for the 3rd time, if you are interested you can search and see what I wrote for yourself. as for him thinking mech would give him the best chance of winning, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows why he chose to play mech, except him and his coaches. this is why I feel like, if him and his coaches feel like they are better off ignoring his mistakes instead of correcting them, then he deserves to lose and get eliminated. you have no idea how much I want flash to win another OSL and at the same time win MSL, but if that is their strategy, to hell with what happened let's try something new and stupid on that particular map, then so be it, but don't expect all of his fans to say "oh well shucks, shit happens". no, shit doesn't happen, he let it happen.
You're saying he should just keep bashing his head against the wall instead of trying to find a way around that wall. I doubt he would have used this build if bio was clearly superior on this map
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I can't believe that Flash can actually lose to a zerg 
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On April 07 2010 19:56 prosatan wrote:
Baby has 360 apm! OMG
Looks like July and By.Hero have a big influence!
You mean Nada?
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On April 07 2010 20:00 Ikonn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 19:55 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:48 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:
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but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this?
You answered your own question. Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question. If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things. Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation. To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off. I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever. So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that? how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won. I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight" yes and I've said my peace regarding those 3 games he lost, I'm not going to rewrite them for the 3rd time, if you are interested you can search and see what I wrote for yourself. as for him thinking mech would give him the best chance of winning, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows why he chose to play mech, except him and his coaches. this is why I feel like, if him and his coaches feel like they are better off ignoring his mistakes instead of correcting them, then he deserves to lose and get eliminated. you have no idea how much I want flash to win another OSL and at the same time win MSL, but if that is their strategy, to hell with what happened let's try something new and stupid on that particular map, then so be it, but don't expect all of his fans to say "oh well shucks, shit happens". no, shit doesn't happen, he let it happen. You're saying he should just keep bashing his head against the wall instead of trying to find a way around that wall. I doubt he would have used this build if bio was clearly superior on this map
Is the part where I wrote, LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES invisible or?
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Hoping Menthol wins against this Clam.
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On April 07 2010 20:03 fallingdream wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 20:00 Ikonn wrote:On April 07 2010 19:55 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:48 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:
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You answered your own question.
Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question. If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things. Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation. To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off. I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever. So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that? how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won. I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight" yes and I've said my peace regarding those 3 games he lost, I'm not going to rewrite them for the 3rd time, if you are interested you can search and see what I wrote for yourself. as for him thinking mech would give him the best chance of winning, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows why he chose to play mech, except him and his coaches. this is why I feel like, if him and his coaches feel like they are better off ignoring his mistakes instead of correcting them, then he deserves to lose and get eliminated. you have no idea how much I want flash to win another OSL and at the same time win MSL, but if that is their strategy, to hell with what happened let's try something new and stupid on that particular map, then so be it, but don't expect all of his fans to say "oh well shucks, shit happens". no, shit doesn't happen, he let it happen. You're saying he should just keep bashing his head against the wall instead of trying to find a way around that wall. I doubt he would have used this build if bio was clearly superior on this map Is the part where I wrote, LEARN FROM HIS MISTAKES invisible or?
Maybe he considered going bio to be his mistake?
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OP deserves a cookie for first 2 predictions. If he gets the next 2 he deserves a whole cake.
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What that's supposed to mean? O_Oa
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On April 07 2010 19:55 fallingdream wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 19:48 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:On April 07 2010 19:14 cascades wrote:
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To mix up your game. To know how important it is, read up Bisu. but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this? You answered your own question. Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question. If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things. Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation. To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off. I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever. So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that? how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won. I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight" yes and I've said my peace regarding those 3 games he lost, I'm not going to rewrite them for the 3rd time, if you are interested you can search and see what I wrote for yourself. as for him thinking mech would give him the best chance of winning, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows why he chose to play mech, except him and his coaches. this is why I feel like, if him and his coaches feel like they are better off ignoring his mistakes instead of correcting them, then he deserves to lose and get eliminated. you have no idea how much I want flash to win another OSL and at the same time win MSL, but if that is their strategy, to hell with what happened let's try something new and stupid on that particular map, then so be it, but don't expect all of his fans to say "oh well shucks, shit happens". no, shit doesn't happen, he let it happen.
Well i can safely say that if you think you've got a better chance going mech than bio its pretty obvious that your going to go mech, hence flash must have thought he would have a better chance as he went mech not bio
You're also assuming that flash decided to do this to cover up some weakness of his, when in his previous games the factors that lead to his loss could easily be overcome, how don't you know that he and the coaches decided that going mech to change it up a little was the best choice?
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On April 07 2010 20:00 boesthius wrote:
eh was game2 recommended? it started out pretty awesome and then slowed down hardcore because hwasin is stubborn :<
I thought it was a pretty sick game that was worth watching. IMO it is worth recommending.
By the way, you can see the future.
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10387 Posts
..what... what is that on calm's face, like between his eyes??
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United States8476 Posts
Calm's overlords took much better paths imo.
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Zero moving out with a control group of zerglings. Calm just sits in his base.
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Calm's Hatch goes down to lings!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
WOW HYVAA AND FLASH WTF lol
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EPT
