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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9430 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#441
It's over for Red Lips Sniper
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#442
Hwasin ggs~
this is my quote.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9430 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#443
GGEEEE
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 10:46:49
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#444
On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:14 cascades wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:13 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:10 cabarkapa wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:09 fallingdream wrote:
[quote]

go fuck yourself right back asshole. you don't know shit about how much of a fan I am. and yes I am a KT fan and Flash fan second so gg own yourself more. for the shit flash tried to pull today he deserves to be fucking eliminated.

going mech really isn't too crazy against zerg


I know it's not. I just cannot begin to understand why would someone play different when he is good as something, and imo, the best m&m micro at the moment. Flash has the strongest late game and yet he does this mech shit... why? why would you do that? WHY?


To mix up your game. To know how important it is, read up Bisu.


but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this?


You answered your own question.

Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question.


If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things.


Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation.

To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off.


I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever.

So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that?


how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won.

all I'm saying is, don't run or ignore your mistakes, learn from them, that's the only way he can become stronger.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#445
gg. BABY!
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#446
Baby owning so hard right now fuck yeah.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#447
nonstop harass all over the map by Baby... so epic. When can we see that in SC2? TT
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#448
GG by Hwasin! 10 mins late.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#449
Good game
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 07 2010 10:45 GMT
#450
hwasin gg's

the tornado baby won!
BW is back
Ducci
Profile Joined April 2009
United States588 Posts
April 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#451
that was some good harass from baby
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#452
Baby showing reallly solid play..omg...guerilladrops <3
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
April 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#453
Baby 2-0.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#454
Haha. Tornado Baby. if he invents some build order, ill call him neo-nada
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
April 07 2010 10:46 GMT
#455
Alright! Now time for Calm vs. Zero! Who to root for...
this is my quote.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#456
The Hydralisk ad is so awesome.
POWEROUTAGE
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore884 Posts
April 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#457
On April 07 2010 19:43 prosatan wrote:
Baby played amazing!!
But Hwasin has beautiful lips

LOL


Agree that Baby played amazingly well. Even from the start it was easy to tell that Hwasin was nervous from the constant and effective harassment from baby. Great show of mechanics from Baby, really efficient use of the units he had at his disposal. Hwasin...build turrets.
Stats. The new standard bearer of the protoss.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9430 Posts
April 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#458
I root for Zero and his purple glasses
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#459
Fuck yeah Hyvaa!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 10:50:37
April 07 2010 10:48 GMT
#460
On April 07 2010 19:45 fallingdream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 19:41 Scaramanga wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:35 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:31 darktreb wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:29 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:21 darktreb wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:18 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:14 cascades wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:13 fallingdream wrote:
On April 07 2010 19:10 cabarkapa wrote:
[quote]
going mech really isn't too crazy against zerg


I know it's not. I just cannot begin to understand why would someone play different when he is good as something, and imo, the best m&m micro at the moment. Flash has the strongest late game and yet he does this mech shit... why? why would you do that? WHY?


To mix up your game. To know how important it is, read up Bisu.


but on a map you don't like, you lost to a weaker player in the past, on a map you don't feel comfortable, why would you chose to do this?


You answered your own question.

Why would you choose to keep doing something that hasn't worked and you clearly don't feel comfortable with is a better question.


If we take each of his bio losses on this map we can see that he didn't lost due to the things he is good at. As far as I remember he played vs some MBC? zerg, can't remember correctly and he lost due to poor building placement ( this was the game that ended his vs Z win streak ), he played vs zero? I belive and lost due to a scv blocking his turret building ( bad luck and not paying attention ) and then he lost to JD also when JD just had a better build order. He never lost to micro mistakes, he never lost because his m&m was weak and he didn't lose because his late game was shit on this map. It's all of course my opinion, but that's how I see things.


Three different "bad luck" things don't just happen to happen on the same map in the same matchup unless your rhythm and/or game sense is off to some degree for that particular situation.

To say that Flash should obviously "stick with what works" on a map that he was previously 3-3 on is pretty off.


I'm sorry but I didn't say that all of his losses were bad luck, where did I say that? I just said that imo it was bad luck in his game vs zero and that's it. his game vs hyun he had terrible building placement and his game vs jd, jd had the better build order, props to him. that is why I don't get it why he ignored all his mistakes, instead of learning from them, and chose to go weird shit mech build with no timing attack whatsoever.

So what if he did go mech, how do you know that if he went mnm that he would have beaten hyvaa? based of his record and how hes played each of those games, if going mech gives him the best chance of winning then wheres the problem in that?


how do you know that going mech gives him the best chance of winning? clearly it's not. as for his last games where he went mech and won, show me the game where he played mech on match point and won, on the other hand I can show you the games where he went bio on match point and won.

I can also show you equal ammount of games where flash has lost going bio
Mech is what flash thought would give him the best chance of winning, if it wasnt why did he chose to do mech? It's not like he was in the booth and just decided that "hey it'd be fun to go mech tonight"

all I'm saying is, don't run or ignore your mistakes, learn from them, that's the only way he can become stronger.

How do you know that in his train of thought going bio was the mistake in the first place?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
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