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PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
March 10 2010 07:28 GMT
#1261
No one knows what flash does, we just know it works. He even tricks us into seeing ebays and turrets
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada378 Posts
March 10 2010 07:28 GMT
#1262
Flash practicing lurker defense after almost getting KwanrooooleD?
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
March 10 2010 07:28 GMT
#1263
I guess around 2411. But damn, the kid is unstoppable.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#1264
On March 10 2010 16:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
wow im going crazy then cause i could have sworn i saw a turret around flash's ramp area.


no turret... lol
:)
singaporemafia
Profile Joined November 2009
Singapore24 Posts
March 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#1265
Flash already predicted lurkers before his scans are ready. He researched range first.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
March 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#1266
On March 10 2010 16:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
wow im going crazy then cause i could have sworn i saw a turret around flash's ramp area.

that's what i thought too, but he was repairing the vulture. it wasn't a turret.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 10 2010 07:29 GMT
#1267
From the time that lair finishes, Lurkers come at 160 (40 to build and 120 to research) time units versus Mutas which also come at 160 (40 to build and 120 to research). wtf? I guess that means that Flash deduced the from the time difference between when muta popped and should attack versus when Lurkers would come. I guess the time difference is mainly comprised of the fact that muta come really fast while Calm didn't manage larva perfectly.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 07:32:15
March 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#1268
On March 10 2010 16:28 Zona wrote:
Flash is playing absolutely monstrous starcraft now. and his first two games were long ones too - he's got endurance to boot.


Well, not to take away from him, but as long as the players can control their nerves and not let the pressure get to them, I doubt two or three games in a row are going to tire them, considering their practice regimen. So it's more about Flash being immune to pressure.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
March 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#1269
On March 10 2010 16:28 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 16:25 BroOd wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:24 thopol wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:23 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:22 thopol wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:21 thunk wrote:
How did Flash know about the 2 hat lurker? Anyone have any guesses?

Scan?


Pretty sure second bunker went up before scan

I'm not going to claim to be sure or anything, but I distinctly recall hearing a scan go off just about when the bunkers went down.

There was also the SCV the Flash snuck out just prior to that. I might have stupidly missed it getting picked off by lings, but if it saw any hydras that would have given it away.


His comsats finished with the 2nd bunker at about 50%.

Did the comsats finish in unison? Again, I'm just speculating.


Yeah, they finished almost simultaneously. My guess is he started the 2nd bunker to be safe, and would've cancelled it if he saw he didn't need it with the scans.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
March 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#1270
On March 10 2010 16:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
wow im going crazy then cause i could have sworn i saw a turret around flash's ramp area.


There was but I dont know why didnt he build one at nat. The guy is mean only 75min :p
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada378 Posts
March 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#1271
Flash gulping adds +2 dex, +5 charisma
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
March 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#1272
loved the tri-bunker.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 07:32:15
March 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#1273
Wtf guys it can't be that he saw mutas didn't come so he instantly threw down a 2nd bunker. He had no turrets... if mutas DID come he'd be fucked, no? Somehow he knew early on that Calm was going lurkers.

Edit: Or yeah, I guess he could've cancelled it if he scanned and saw mutas. But would that leave him enough time to build turrets and defend muta harass?
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
March 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#1274
On March 10 2010 16:30 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 16:28 thopol wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:25 BroOd wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:24 thopol wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:23 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:22 thopol wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:21 thunk wrote:
How did Flash know about the 2 hat lurker? Anyone have any guesses?

Scan?


Pretty sure second bunker went up before scan

I'm not going to claim to be sure or anything, but I distinctly recall hearing a scan go off just about when the bunkers went down.

There was also the SCV the Flash snuck out just prior to that. I might have stupidly missed it getting picked off by lings, but if it saw any hydras that would have given it away.


His comsats finished with the 2nd bunker at about 50%.

Did the comsats finish in unison? Again, I'm just speculating.


Yeah, they finished almost simultaneously. My guess is he started the 2nd bunker to be safe, and would've cancelled it if he saw he didn't need it with the scans.

Makes a lot of sense.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
March 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#1275
On March 10 2010 16:29 cunninglinguists wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 16:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
wow im going crazy then cause i could have sworn i saw a turret around flash's ramp area.

that's what i thought too, but he was repairing the vulture. it wasn't a turret.

oh wtf. I really am going crazy seeing a vulture as a turret. I guess he he knew calm was going lurker from the start and just decided not to make an ebay. Honestly think it would have been better just making an ebay and getting a turret.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 07:31:56
March 10 2010 07:31 GMT
#1276
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 10 2010 07:32 GMT
#1277
Wemade Oz game just got updated in TLPD, now we wait in anticipation for Flash...
Remember Violet.
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
March 10 2010 07:32 GMT
#1278
Fuck, I clearly saw a turret, no way a vulture being repaired...
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 10 2010 07:32 GMT
#1279
I wonder if Calm would've done better if instead of trying to break the front with the Lurkers, he used Lings to draw fire while splitting Lurkers and sending them to behind the mineral lines of main and natural. At least it would've made Flash use more scan and would've interfered with mineral collection...?

In fact, when Calm ran those 6 Lings into Flash's main, if instead it was a Lurker I think Flash wouldn't have had the scans to deal with both the front and the main.
TranslatorBaa!
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
March 10 2010 07:32 GMT
#1280
On March 10 2010 16:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 16:29 cunninglinguists wrote:
On March 10 2010 16:27 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
wow im going crazy then cause i could have sworn i saw a turret around flash's ramp area.

that's what i thought too, but he was repairing the vulture. it wasn't a turret.

oh wtf. I really am going crazy seeing a vulture as a turret. I guess he he knew calm was going lurker from the start and just decided not to make an ebay. Honestly think it would have been better just making an ebay and getting a turret.


flash probably wanted more fans to his fanbase and made the game more interesting...
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
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