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[TSL] PS.com Finals - Nony vs Mondragon - Page 50

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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#981
Wow Nony so good, grats :D PROTOSSSSSSS

And mad props to Mondi for being so well mannered, respect!

Awesome tournament, thanks a ton!
Revolutionist fan
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#982
On March 01 2010 06:58 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:57 BroOd wrote:
On March 01 2010 06:54 Xeris wrote:
They accidentally posted a picture of the bracket in the pre-game stuff that showed Nony winning 4-2. Then we got some goofy cover up excuse "we generate a bunch of random bracket images" ... WHAT? That doesn't make any sense at all lololol. Why would anyone just post random bracket images with scores, lol. Especially considering none of the other broadcasts did that. It doesn't make any logical sense.

That was just a really dumb excuse. It would have been better for TL admins to be like "woops we made a mistake, sorry about that folks" instead of coming up with that really lame excuse.

I mean, it's perfectly normal for tournaments to post random images of results just to fuck with the fans! Imagine if the world cup did that :p


What they were trying to do was cultivate some doubt so that the viewers could rationalize believing the spoiled results weren't real. They weren't suggesting that they stuck random images in, but that one of the pre-generated result bracket images was accidentally put in the slide show.

If even one viewer allowed himself to believe it and enjoyed the games more as a result, it was worth it.


The ends justify the means?


The means didn't hurt anyone so yes.
Remember Violet.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
February 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#983
On March 01 2010 06:58 datscilly wrote:
It would have been nice of the TL staff to say they did make a mistake at the end. Unfortunately the way the world works is that they don't need to say anything, and most of the people who weren't spoiled will not have that clue that it happened.


huh?
Have you been watching or reading the forums, TL has made a public apology everytime a slight delay occurred in the stream and reacted as best as they can in the following situations. They are not paid to do this, they are not professionals, they are doing this out of their own time for your entertainment and they are doing a fantastic job with a fantastic series. TL is one of the greatest communities ever. You will probably get an apology by tomorrow.

Thanks TL + Pokerstrategy for this wonderful tournament.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
February 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#984
This entire tourney was just fantastic
Writerptrk
MartT
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 22:01:38
February 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#985
On March 01 2010 06:59 BroOd wrote:
I'm loving all this Palin-esque retroactive outrage.

"What? You mean the spoiler was real?! DISGUSTING!"


There was outrage at the time it happened it's just the mods went all 1984 and censored everything
getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
February 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#986
On March 01 2010 06:56 z]Benny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:51 kiendudu wrote:
another protoss just won the TSL,
thank teamliquid and pocketstrategy for runiing this tourney, so interesting


Lol pocketstrategy.

Why are you people whining, are you seriously saying that you would have prefered them to say "YES THE RESULTS WERE 4-2" instead of covering it up and make everyone actually wonder about it. So fucking what if the results actually were 4-2? Were the games less entertaining because the series ended in those numbers? It's not like you knew for sure what the results were, which would've seriously fucked up the viewing experience.

Good job covering it up guys! At least it gave me a little peace of mind.


Neither of those are fair: 1) you confirm the spoilers, or 2) you lie to everyone. IMO the best thing to would have been to say nothing in the thread and afterwards say "Yes, we messed up, sorry." This will probably come anyway.

YES, games are less entertaining when knowing how a series ends or how a game will end. And yes, in games 3, 4, 5, and 6, people who witnessed spoilers knew what the results of the game would be.

Still an awesome tournament though. Good job TL and Pokerstrategy!
Running Log! http://www.runningahead.com/logs/5081b4d7a4a94c5e8fa20b01e668dfb6/calendar
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#987
On March 01 2010 06:58 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:57 BroOd wrote:
On March 01 2010 06:54 Xeris wrote:
They accidentally posted a picture of the bracket in the pre-game stuff that showed Nony winning 4-2. Then we got some goofy cover up excuse "we generate a bunch of random bracket images" ... WHAT? That doesn't make any sense at all lololol. Why would anyone just post random bracket images with scores, lol. Especially considering none of the other broadcasts did that. It doesn't make any logical sense.

That was just a really dumb excuse. It would have been better for TL admins to be like "woops we made a mistake, sorry about that folks" instead of coming up with that really lame excuse.

I mean, it's perfectly normal for tournaments to post random images of results just to fuck with the fans! Imagine if the world cup did that :p


What they were trying to do was cultivate some doubt so that the viewers could rationalize believing the spoiled results weren't real. They weren't suggesting that they stuck random images in, but that one of the pre-generated result bracket images was accidentally put in the slide show.

If even one viewer allowed himself to believe it and enjoyed the games more as a result, it was worth it.


The ends justify the means?

That's a much broader philosophical statement than suits the scope of this conversation. I don't believe a white lie in an attempt to enhance the viewing experience is such a terrible thing.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
February 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#988
On March 01 2010 06:49 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:44 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 01 2010 06:43 7 wrote:
LAME! We DID get spoilered! And they lied and told us it wasnt a spoiler

They tried to cover and antispoiler it. Would you prefer if they told you YEAH IT WAS 4-2?


I dont like being lied to?

awwww, poor baby

Missed all the games :[
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7098 Posts
February 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#989
They never even claimed the results weren't right, all Kennigit said was that they make the group results for every possible outcome.. and that might be true.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 28 2010 22:02 GMT
#990
On March 01 2010 07:00 MartT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:59 BroOd wrote:
I'm loving all this Palin-esque retroactive outrage.

"What? You mean the spoiler was real?! DISGUSTING!"


There was outrage at the time it happened it's just the mods went all 1984 and censored everything

Yes, there was, but that's clearly not the "outrage" I'm talking about.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 28 2010 22:02 GMT
#991
im sad TSL is over. it's been amazing
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
February 28 2010 22:02 GMT
#992
Great tournament TL and PS.com~
The best farewell SC:BW could possibly hope for.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7098 Posts
February 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#993
On March 01 2010 07:02 Jyvblamo wrote:
Great tournament TL and PS.com~
The best farewell SC:BW could possibly hope for.

Damn right, I'm getting all tear eyed right now. TeamLiquid gave the ending that BW really deserved to get. Ohhh I love BW and TL, lets hope SC2 can live up to its predecessor.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
February 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#994
amazing tourny! take that wife of yours out!
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
February 28 2010 22:04 GMT
#995
On March 01 2010 07:00 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 06:58 datscilly wrote:
It would have been nice of the TL staff to say they did make a mistake at the end. Unfortunately the way the world works is that they don't need to say anything, and most of the people who weren't spoiled will not have that clue that it happened.


huh?
Have you been watching or reading the forums, TL has made a public apology everytime a slight delay occurred in the stream and reacted as best as they can in the following situations. They are not paid to do this, they are not professionals, they are doing this out of their own time for your entertainment and they are doing a fantastic job with a fantastic series. TL is one of the greatest communities ever. You will probably get an apology by tomorrow.

Thanks TL + Pokerstrategy for this wonderful tournament.


yea, sorry to sound so negative. I really enjoyed the finals, and the match yesterday as well, and I wasn't spoiled. Following the tsl all the way from the beginning of the ladder stage to the end has been extremely exciting, and I'm looking forward to the next one.
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
February 28 2010 22:10 GMT
#996
On March 01 2010 07:01 getSome[703] wrote:
Neither of those are fair: 1) you confirm the spoilers, or 2) you lie to everyone. IMO the best thing to would have been to say nothing in the thread and afterwards say "Yes, we messed up, sorry." This will probably come anyway.


Fair? Fair to whom? TL's prerogative was to provide entertainment. In that interest, the FAIR thing to do was, yes, if a leak happened to patch it up as soon as possible, instead of staring at it in amazement.

Because they reacted like that at least they planted doubt in people's minds, instead of leaving 10 pages of people spamming OMG OMG OMG.

On March 01 2010 07:01 getSome[703] wrote:

YES, games are less entertaining when knowing how a series ends or how a game will end. And yes, in games 3, 4, 5, and 6, people who witnessed spoilers knew what the results of the game would be.

Still an awesome tournament though. Good job TL and Pokerstrategy!


I saw the spoilers. And i've only started thinking about them after game 5 when it became 3-2. At 2-2 it could've gone either way anyway.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
February 28 2010 22:12 GMT
#997
On March 01 2010 07:02 OneOther wrote:
im sad TSL is over. it's been amazing

i feel the same buddy
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 28 2010 22:13 GMT
#998
As an excuse, it would have made more sense to say that that was just a random prediction that someone made.

Anyhow, this series was by far the best in the whole TSL, and I really enjoyed the tourney overall. The TLnet staff yet again did an excellent job, and the Pokerstrategy fellows were awesome for sponsoring this.

I have nothing to complain about, great work I love TL!
z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
February 28 2010 22:13 GMT
#999
Yeah, all in all, spectacular job, TL!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 28 2010 22:18 GMT
#1000
Omg I just wish that NonY would've stayed at Korea. He could've actually be big.
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