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[TSL] PS.com Finals - Nony vs Mondragon - Page 52

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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7819 Posts
February 28 2010 22:57 GMT
#1021
Congrats Nony!
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
February 28 2010 22:58 GMT
#1022
gz nony
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
February 28 2010 23:01 GMT
#1023
Despite the massive blunder, I do appreciate the effort that was put into damage control. I started watching late and was blissfully unaware of the spoiled result until the "omg, the spoiler was real" posts came up after the final game. The idiots who went around spamming the results are the real villains here.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
February 28 2010 23:01 GMT
#1024
I agree, great casting/obs this series. Even chill seemed to have enthusiasm for a change!
gh0st
Profile Joined January 2010
United States98 Posts
February 28 2010 23:02 GMT
#1025
As someone who didn't tune in until game 3, I appreciate the fact that the outcome was not divulged in a public way after the bracket was displayed. TL staff faced a tough situation and did the best they could.

Putting together a tourny of this quality IS a lot of pressure and hard work, and comparing it to "plugging a heater into a socket" is pretty disrespectful. When you think about the product these guys put out there for us, it is really astonishing. They deserve a big thank you, not snide comments.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 23:05:07
February 28 2010 23:04 GMT
#1026
Foreshadowing at its finest?

On February 12 2010 19:11 Carnac wrote:
Let us further assume that someone gives his results away to a greater audience in one of the later rounds, or - god beware - the final. Setting a precedent of letting someone get away with leaking results is like shooting ourselves in the foot.

To protect the TSL the precedent we set has to really discourage any future leaking.
SkoalMint
Profile Joined February 2010
United States2 Posts
February 28 2010 23:05 GMT
#1027
All the effort, money, and time put into this for us to watch for free is amazing. There should be no complaints, only thanks and praises. Great job.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 23:06:36
February 28 2010 23:05 GMT
#1028
On March 01 2010 08:04 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Foreshadowing at its finest?

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2010 19:11 Carnac wrote:
Let us further assume that someone gives his results away to a greater audience in one of the later rounds, or - god beware - the final. Setting a precedent of letting someone get away with leaking results is like shooting ourselves in the foot.

To protect the TSL the precedent we set has to really discourage any future leaking.

?

I believe that comment was made about a player (Tarson) spoiling results before the cast? I don't see what it has to do with what happened.
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 23:08:39
February 28 2010 23:07 GMT
#1029
On March 01 2010 08:05 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 08:04 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Foreshadowing at its finest?

On February 12 2010 19:11 Carnac wrote:
Let us further assume that someone gives his results away to a greater audience in one of the later rounds, or - god beware - the final. Setting a precedent of letting someone get away with leaking results is like shooting ourselves in the foot.

To protect the TSL the precedent we set has to really discourage any future leaking.

?

I believe that comment was made about a player (Tarson) spoiling results before the cast? I don't see what it has to do with what happened.

I know, I realize it was unintentional. I just think its ironic that the same people who were so gung-ho about not spoiling were the same ones who messed up.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 28 2010 23:09 GMT
#1030
So basically you're saying "in your face"?
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
February 28 2010 23:10 GMT
#1031
No, not at all. I realize it's hard to find the humour in this situation but you DID say god forbid something happen and then it immediately does. No insult intended.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 28 2010 23:12 GMT
#1032
ok
I guess I was still too mad about the whole situation to appreciate the humor :p
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Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
February 28 2010 23:14 GMT
#1033
On March 01 2010 08:07 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2010 08:05 Hot_Bid wrote:
On March 01 2010 08:04 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Foreshadowing at its finest?

On February 12 2010 19:11 Carnac wrote:
Let us further assume that someone gives his results away to a greater audience in one of the later rounds, or - god beware - the final. Setting a precedent of letting someone get away with leaking results is like shooting ourselves in the foot.

To protect the TSL the precedent we set has to really discourage any future leaking.

?

I believe that comment was made about a player (Tarson) spoiling results before the cast? I don't see what it has to do with what happened.

I know, I realize it was unintentional. I just think its ironic that the same people who were so gung-ho about not spoiling were the same ones who messed up.


Yeah, you're kinda right...

But you're also kind of an asshole
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shafiru
Profile Joined January 2009
111 Posts
February 28 2010 23:20 GMT
#1034
I'm glad they lied, the alternative is what, to spoil the games for the rest of us? A mistake was made and it was dealt with in a fashion so that most of the viewer's would still enjoy the cast. GJ TL
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 28 2010 23:21 GMT
#1035
excellent series excellent tournament
despite the hilarious screw up. kind of annoying that the screw up had to be so hilariously bad
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
February 28 2010 23:22 GMT
#1036
farewell foreign broodwar scene. That was a fitting series for the send off.
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-28 23:29:25
February 28 2010 23:28 GMT
#1037
On March 01 2010 07:38 HazMat wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2010 07:28 Carnac wrote:
Ok. This is what happened:

Everything was set up perfectly. I had run through all the videos with R1CH watching, we had soundchecked early, were ready in perfect time.

Cheerful video is running, music is playing and I switch to the Probe intro to start the cast. Probe intro ends, I switch to the NonY vs Mondi screen and sound on stream for absolutely no reason at all is gone. I start getting mad, because the stream gods apparently hate us (or we really should have sacrificed GTR over a fire!).
Restarting Wirecast (and thus restarting the stream) instantly fixes the sound problem. We decide not to use the Probe video again, because we think it's what made the sound crash (despite it working perfectly in earlier casts and during the test before today's cast as well). I thus remove the Probe video from the Wirecast video list. Since it was one of the first ones in my list everything else moves up one slot.
The stream is restarted with the Nony vs Mondi screen on. I want to switch to the Cheerful video again, but everything has moved up one slot the bracket video is now in the slot the cheerful video was in before. Visual memory is a bitch, so I run it, instantly recognizing my mistake.
I yell at R1CH to take the stream down instantly, but alas it's too late, the data has already been processed by the streaming server.
Most people were still reconnecting at that time though, so only a minority caught a glimpse of it. The reason posts were deleted and Kennigit posted earlier in this thread was not to hide anything, but to avoid spoilers for the majority who had not yet reconnected. Users mentioning it in this thread over and over again while the cast was still going only made it worse (risk of spoiling to the mahority that didnt see it).

I don't think anyone outside the people involved realize the fragility of our streaming environment, obs, casters & tech crew spread all over the world. Nor does anyone understand the pressure when stuff suddenly goes wrong for no good reason (I still don't understand why Wirecast decided to crash the sound after the Probe vid....) at all with thousands of people watching.

If anyone is mad they got spoiled put yourself in my shoes, thanks.



Ehh, no apology? We understand it's a lot of pressure and hard work but so is plugging a heater into a socket. I respect the lie though since it settled some people down.

Prepare for the worst.

what the fuck is wrong with you

btw i probably said this before, but what a great series. i will really miss tsl2 :\ thank you nony/mondragon for both epic games.

if this is the last ever major foreign sc tournament ever to happen, it will be truly be one to remember. :d
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
February 28 2010 23:28 GMT
#1038
Thanks for making it all possible, can't wait for the vods!
Xellos <3
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
February 28 2010 23:30 GMT
#1039
I really can't believe people are complaining after all the hard work and time these guys have put in =/
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
February 28 2010 23:36 GMT
#1040
Zatic ,

you did an amazing job, the coverup was good enough for me to browse the thread and think "blah bunch of bitches" and not even reconsider the accuracy of the complaints.

Thank you tsl for an amazing tournament. As much as I need to seperate myself from the last seven years, I had to stick around to see this tournamet end. Thank you for giving me something to take away with me.

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