EPTSuch a great series…I'm only disappointed that Mondi let that zeal-archon attack surprise him in the 6set.
Go TSL, what a fantastic tourney. Thank you organizers, casters, and players!
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
Such a great series…I'm only disappointed that Mondi let that zeal-archon attack surprise him in the 6set. Go TSL, what a fantastic tourney. Thank you organizers, casters, and players! | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Everything was set up perfectly. I had run through all the videos with R1CH watching, we had soundchecked early, were ready in perfect time. Cheerful video is running, music is playing and I switch to the Probe intro to start the cast. Probe intro ends, I switch to the NonY vs Mondi screen and sound on stream for absolutely no reason at all is gone. I start getting mad, because the stream gods apparently hate us (or we really should have sacrificed GTR over a fire!). Restarting Wirecast (and thus restarting the stream) instantly fixes the sound problem. We decide not to use the Probe video again, because we think it's what made the sound crash (despite it working perfectly in earlier casts and during the test before today's cast as well). I thus remove the Probe video from the Wirecast video list. Since it was one of the first ones in my list everything else moves up one slot. The stream is restarted with the Nony vs Mondi screen on. I want to switch to the Cheerful video again, but everything has moved up one slot the bracket video is now in the slot the cheerful video was in before. Visual memory is a bitch, so I run it, instantly recognizing my mistake. I yell at R1CH to take the stream down instantly, but alas it's too late, the data has already been processed by the streaming server. Most people were still reconnecting at that time though, so only a minority caught a glimpse of it. The reason posts were deleted and Kennigit posted earlier in this thread was not to hide anything, but to avoid spoilers for the majority who had not yet reconnected. Users mentioning it in this thread over and over again while the cast was still going only made it worse (risk of spoiling to the mahority that didnt see it). I don't think anyone outside the people involved realize the fragility of our streaming environment, obs, casters & tech crew spread all over the world. Nor does anyone understand the pressure when stuff suddenly goes wrong for no good reason (I still don't understand why Wirecast decided to crash the sound after the Probe vid....) at all with thousands of people watching. If anyone is mad they got spoiled put yourself in my shoes, thanks. | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
the games are pre-played...  edit: well it was a mistake. just happened to happen in a very bad time! right before the finals of big tournament =( This is why those things should be done after the cast. not before =D | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:28 Piste wrote: fuck da spoilers, who would have believed that all those brackets were premade? the games are pre-played... Because most staff, including graphics doesn't know the results before the cast. Anyway, the post was made to save people from spoilers not to cover up anything, as were the deleted posts. | ||
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Puosu
7014 Posts
It does suck it had to be at the finals but can't do anything about it and we had some great games to pay up for it. | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
So it really doesn't matter to much and I don't give a fuck, I think the TLstaff lived up to it's reputation once again, and this tourney was such a spectacular source of entertainment for all, all for free! Thank you TLnet. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:28 Carnac wrote: Ok. This is what happened: Everything was set up perfectly. I had run through all the videos with R1CH watching, we had soundchecked early, were ready in perfect time. Cheerful video is running, music is playing and I switch to the Probe intro to start the cast. Probe intro ends, I switch to the NonY vs Mondi screen and sound on stream for absolutely no reason at all is gone. I start getting mad, because the stream gods apparently hate us (or we really should have sacrificed GTR over a fire!). Restarting Wirecast (and thus restarting the stream) instantly fixes the sound problem. We decide not to use the Probe video again, because we think it's what made the sound crash (despite it working perfectly in earlier casts and during the test before today's cast as well). I thus remove the Probe video from the Wirecast video list. Since it was one of the first ones in my list everything else moves up one slot. The stream is restarted with the Nony vs Mondi screen on. I want to switch to the Cheerful video again, but everything has moved up one slot the bracket video is now in the slot the cheerful video was in before. Visual memory is a bitch, so I run it, instantly recognizing my mistake. I yell at R1CH to take the stream down instantly, but alas it's too late, the data has already been processed by the streaming server. Most people were still reconnecting at that time though, so only a minority caught a glimpse of it. The reason posts were deleted and Kennigit posted earlier in this thread was not to hide anything, but to avoid spoilers for the majority who had not yet reconnected. Users mentioning it in this thread over and over again while the cast was still going only made it worse (risk of spoiling to the mahority that didnt see it). I don't think anyone outside the people involved realize the fragility of our streaming environment, obs, casters & tech crew spread all over the world. Nor does anyone understand the pressure when stuff suddenly goes wrong for no good reason (I still don't understand why Wirecast decided to crash the sound after the Probe vid....) at all with thousands of people watching. If anyone is mad they got spoiled put yourself in my shoes, thanks. Ehh, no apology? We understand it's a lot of pressure and hard work but so is plugging a heater into a socket. I respect the lie though since it settled some people down. Prepare for the worst. | ||
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bEsT[Alive]
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:38 HazMat wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2010 07:28 Carnac wrote: Ok. This is what happened: Everything was set up perfectly. I had run through all the videos with R1CH watching, we had soundchecked early, were ready in perfect time. Cheerful video is running, music is playing and I switch to the Probe intro to start the cast. Probe intro ends, I switch to the NonY vs Mondi screen and sound on stream for absolutely no reason at all is gone. I start getting mad, because the stream gods apparently hate us (or we really should have sacrificed GTR over a fire!). Restarting Wirecast (and thus restarting the stream) instantly fixes the sound problem. We decide not to use the Probe video again, because we think it's what made the sound crash (despite it working perfectly in earlier casts and during the test before today's cast as well). I thus remove the Probe video from the Wirecast video list. Since it was one of the first ones in my list everything else moves up one slot. The stream is restarted with the Nony vs Mondi screen on. I want to switch to the Cheerful video again, but everything has moved up one slot the bracket video is now in the slot the cheerful video was in before. Visual memory is a bitch, so I run it, instantly recognizing my mistake. I yell at R1CH to take the stream down instantly, but alas it's too late, the data has already been processed by the streaming server. Most people were still reconnecting at that time though, so only a minority caught a glimpse of it. The reason posts were deleted and Kennigit posted earlier in this thread was not to hide anything, but to avoid spoilers for the majority who had not yet reconnected. Users mentioning it in this thread over and over again while the cast was still going only made it worse (risk of spoiling to the mahority that didnt see it). I don't think anyone outside the people involved realize the fragility of our streaming environment, obs, casters & tech crew spread all over the world. Nor does anyone understand the pressure when stuff suddenly goes wrong for no good reason (I still don't understand why Wirecast decided to crash the sound after the Probe vid....) at all with thousands of people watching. If anyone is mad they got spoiled put yourself in my shoes, thanks. Ehh, no apology? We understand it's a lot of pressure and hard work but so is plugging a heater into a socket. I respect the lie though since it settled some people down. Prepare for the worst. I said I recognized my mistake and while I didn't explicitly say I am sorry I certainly meant to imply it. Point taken tho | ||
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Ideas
United States8168 Posts
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RainmanMP
United States1698 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:39 Foreplay wrote: i wouldve been blissfully unaware of the spoilers since i had it running in backround while refreshing this thread but i had to have it spoiled by a few jackasses who did see it. Yea I really don't understand why some people would want to spoil it for those who didn't see that screen, which lasted like 1 second. I thought TL members were better than that. One slip up and people jump all over it screaming "omg" making it 100x worse. I mean really, are you that desperate for attention on the forums? | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
Thanks to the staff, players, and sponsors for an amazing tourney. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:38 HazMat wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 01 2010 07:28 Carnac wrote: Ok. This is what happened: Everything was set up perfectly. I had run through all the videos with R1CH watching, we had soundchecked early, were ready in perfect time. Cheerful video is running, music is playing and I switch to the Probe intro to start the cast. Probe intro ends, I switch to the NonY vs Mondi screen and sound on stream for absolutely no reason at all is gone. I start getting mad, because the stream gods apparently hate us (or we really should have sacrificed GTR over a fire!). Restarting Wirecast (and thus restarting the stream) instantly fixes the sound problem. We decide not to use the Probe video again, because we think it's what made the sound crash (despite it working perfectly in earlier casts and during the test before today's cast as well). I thus remove the Probe video from the Wirecast video list. Since it was one of the first ones in my list everything else moves up one slot. The stream is restarted with the Nony vs Mondi screen on. I want to switch to the Cheerful video again, but everything has moved up one slot the bracket video is now in the slot the cheerful video was in before. Visual memory is a bitch, so I run it, instantly recognizing my mistake. I yell at R1CH to take the stream down instantly, but alas it's too late, the data has already been processed by the streaming server. Most people were still reconnecting at that time though, so only a minority caught a glimpse of it. The reason posts were deleted and Kennigit posted earlier in this thread was not to hide anything, but to avoid spoilers for the majority who had not yet reconnected. Users mentioning it in this thread over and over again while the cast was still going only made it worse (risk of spoiling to the mahority that didnt see it). I don't think anyone outside the people involved realize the fragility of our streaming environment, obs, casters & tech crew spread all over the world. Nor does anyone understand the pressure when stuff suddenly goes wrong for no good reason (I still don't understand why Wirecast decided to crash the sound after the Probe vid....) at all with thousands of people watching. If anyone is mad they got spoiled put yourself in my shoes, thanks. Ehh, no apology? We understand it's a lot of pressure and hard work but so is plugging a heater into a socket. I respect the lie though since it settled some people down. Prepare for the worst. it is probably a bad idea to respond to this given my position here, but i really would like to point out to everyone in this thread the gall and sense of entitlement required for this guy to make this post yes we aim to deliver the best product, etc but shit happens. i'm not trying to play the 'look how much effort we put in' card but is the first response you have to his post REALLY 'Ehh, no apology?' how sickening, and still look how humbly and gracefully carnac responds. we are not looking for asskissing or gratitude or praise, but at least be a decent person okay? | ||
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MannerMan
371 Posts
The spoiler thing is another matter, but that is as much a fault of the community as the people running the event. It is completely ridiculous that people posted what the results said, even in spoilers. Amazing event. Can't thank everybody involved enough. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:43 Ideas wrote: I guess I'm pretty lucky I showed up to watch 20 minutes late lol omg same here; I started watching at game 2 and had no idea this happened.. O_O | ||
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
On March 01 2010 07:01 BroOd wrote: That's a much broader philosophical statement than suits the scope of this conversation. I don't believe a white lie in an attempt to enhance the viewing experience is such a terrible thing. Bertrand Russell talks about how morals and happiness are NOT mutually exclusive. Christians and many religions seem to think otherwise which is why lies in any shape and form is looked so down upon when in reality lies to me should be seen as more of a cost-benefit sort of thing. In this situation the cost of telling the truth would've been detrimental to the rest of the cast. Ignoring it wouldn't be good either because many people were talking about it and ignoring it might have been suspicious. Lying isn't great either because there wasn't really much you could say that could make the cast as good as it could've been had nobody seen that but i think it was probably the best out of the three options they could've done... | ||
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