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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 27 2010 06:36 GMT
#441
ZvZ is the least balanced matchup, 90% of the units are absolutely useless
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 06:37:19
February 27 2010 06:36 GMT
#442
On February 27 2010 15:35 QM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:33 We Are Here wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:32 QM wrote:
ZvZ now really balance,that's why JD and Effort not good as last WL season
mirror matchups have always been balanced =.=


JvZ was imbalanced lol


Fortunately, It has been nerfed.

We are yet to hear any additional news from Blizzard regarding FvT, FvZ and FvP
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
February 27 2010 06:37 GMT
#443
So which was better? Jaedong/Stork or Kal/Effort?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#444
Modesty vs Effort
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#445
Kal/Effort

more unexpected result
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 06:39:39
February 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#446
On February 27 2010 15:33 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:32 QM wrote:
ZvZ now really balance,that's why JD and Effort not good as last WL season
mirror matchups have always been balanced =.=


Not really, although it may seem intuitive to think so.

I think QM meant it in a different way (Jaedong was just so ahead of the curve, that JvZ was imbalanced) but a match-up which is determined by the opening to builds to such a degree is anything but balanced. It's balanced in the way that rock/paper/scissors is 'balanced' but not to the degree that arm wrestling is balanced, given two totally even competitors.

TvT is the most balanced MU there is though.
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okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
February 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#447
On February 27 2010 15:37 NguN wrote:
So which was better? Jaedong/Stork or Kal/Effort?

This might've been as good if it was the deciding game.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
February 27 2010 06:38 GMT
#448
On February 27 2010 15:37 NguN wrote:
So which was better? Jaedong/Stork or Kal/Effort?


Jaedong v.s. Stork. I had to search the floor for my jaw after that game.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
February 27 2010 06:39 GMT
#449
On February 27 2010 15:36 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:33 We Are Here wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:32 QM wrote:
ZvZ now really balance,that's why JD and Effort not good as last WL season
mirror matchups have always been balanced =.=


He means that ZvZ is more balanced now in terms of player skill difference.
well, i guess so. that's probably because JD had practically figured out zvz and now the rest have caught up
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
February 27 2010 06:41 GMT
#450
On February 27 2010 15:37 NguN wrote:
So which was better? Jaedong/Stork or Kal/Effort?


JD vs Stork, no question. Ace match, top players, and non-stop action. Kal vs Effort had a pretty slow midgame.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:42 GMT
#451
Skyhigh is the last hope for CJ... thankfully Modesty is rather mediocre
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
February 27 2010 06:42 GMT
#452
Started:

Roadrunner?

Modesty at 10
Skyhigh at 7

Modesty scouting wrong way. Going 12 hatch. Skyhigh going supply-rax.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
February 27 2010 06:42 GMT
#453
Game 6:

(T)sKyHigh spawns as brown terran at 7 o'clock.
(Z)Modesty spawns as yellow zerg at 10 o'clock.
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 27 2010 06:43 GMT
#454
On February 27 2010 15:42 meeple wrote:
Skyhigh is the last hope for CJ... thankfully Modesty is rather mediocre


If Modesty can't take him Calm will easily
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 27 2010 06:43 GMT
#455
OH SHIT A WHITE PERSON
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
February 27 2010 06:45 GMT
#456
Skyhigh takes his expo (wasn't sure if that was rax-expand). SCV scout gets denied. Action with the 3 hatch. Spire building.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
February 27 2010 06:45 GMT
#457
On February 27 2010 15:43 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:42 meeple wrote:
Skyhigh is the last hope for CJ... thankfully Modesty is rather mediocre


If Modesty can't take him Calm will easily

I'm not really into SkyHigh, but as a Calm fan, I can say I have very little confidence in his ZvT at the moment. It's actually been quite poor this season.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:46 GMT
#458
SH looking to pressure with a handful of mnm with a couple firebats mixed in
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:46 GMT
#459
Modesty hiding his lings... there's no way that mnm force is big enough
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
February 27 2010 06:47 GMT
#460
Skyhigh hiding a lot of lings, if Skyhigh tries to sunken break, he'll be in a lot of trouble!
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