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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
February 27 2010 06:22 GMT
#401
Basically, (Z)EffOrt needed a fifth base, or else (P)Kal was going to starve him out on even bases. There was a stretch where Kal was moving back and forth, and EffOrt was constantly expanding/canceling in desperation. EffOrt actually snuck a drone past a group of zealots that Kal had and was able to expand to 10 and when Kal finally pulled that group of zealots back and saw the expo morphing, EffOrt had enough lings to defend it. Because of this, EffOrt can also expand to 9.

At this point, Kal needs to go an kill off these expos again. EffOrt however does a heroic job with low cost ling/defiler drops to keep Kal occupied, while sniping zealots with lings, and saving some of his ultras. This was crucial for EffOrt to keep attacking, and keep moving. EffOrt delayed long enough, and got lucky with a drop at 4 while Kal's army was out of position. His feint towards the main, and then second attack on the warping in nexus at 4 was crucial, and suddenly, EffOrt was at 6 bases, and Kal at 4.

Kal has an unstoppable army though, with a ridiculous amount of archons/zealots to eat up the ultra/ling/defiler combo that EffOrt prefers. Kal turns to attack EffOrt's fifth and sixth, but EffOrt counter attacks in three different places with the ultras he was able to preserve and produce while delaying. This was pretty brilliant in an of itself. but Kal knows all he needs to do is cannonwhore at his last remaining expo, and sit tight with a few hts and a reaver there, while his ball of death kills everything.

He goes for the 11 and 12 expos, and EffOrt pulls out just enough lings to delay for the morphing guardians. Suddenly, Kal's ball of death is going to take a huge hit if he commits to the top base. He does the only thing he can do, go kill off EffOrt's nat and main, but at this point, he simply can't answer the guardians, and it's obviously gg.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
February 27 2010 06:24 GMT
#402
respect for writing a mini essay
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 27 2010 06:25 GMT
#403
On February 27 2010 15:19 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:16 Ace wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:12 NeoOmega wrote:
I think Archon/Reaver/High Templar is as close to imbalanced as starcraft gets. Zerg Just cant directly engage it. Effort doing a pimp job of being everywhere and cutting Kal appart.


I always thought 3/3 Tank/Goli/Vessel was far worse.

I'd tend to agree if Terran micros good enough. Vessel is the real imba part :/


I'd believe you but you flipped Mafia :'(
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:25 GMT
#404
Effort enjoying some extra gas... muta timing should be similar for both players
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 27 2010 06:25 GMT
#405
On February 27 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:19 Mystlord wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:16 Ace wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:12 NeoOmega wrote:
I think Archon/Reaver/High Templar is as close to imbalanced as starcraft gets. Zerg Just cant directly engage it. Effort doing a pimp job of being everywhere and cutting Kal appart.


I always thought 3/3 Tank/Goli/Vessel was far worse.

I'd tend to agree if Terran micros good enough. Vessel is the real imba part :/


I'd believe you but you flipped Mafia :'(


Two games in a row...
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 27 2010 06:26 GMT
#406
Modesty behind Effort on his natural gas.

I think both players are entering that "mass up" mode.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 06:27:27
February 27 2010 06:26 GMT
#407
On February 27 2010 15:22 tree.hugger wrote:
An essay

+1. Respect man.

Muta/scourge out for both. Effort has lings but I don't see too many for modesty. I see them now.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:27 GMT
#408
Nice micro from Modesty...both posturing for position with their mutas
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:27 GMT
#409
Oooohh.. nice scourge hits from Modesty!!!
Fredflintstone
Profile Joined January 2009
439 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-27 06:28:29
February 27 2010 06:27 GMT
#410
On February 27 2010 15:22 tree.hugger wrote:
Basically, (Z)EffOrt needed a fifth base, or else + Show Spoiler +
(P)Kal was going to starve him out on even bases. There was a stretch where Kal was moving back and forth, and EffOrt was constantly expanding/canceling in desperation. EffOrt actually snuck a drone past a group of zealots that Kal had and was able to expand to 10 and when Kal finally pulled that group of zealots back and saw the expo morphing, EffOrt had enough lings to defend it. Because of this, EffOrt can also expand to 9.

At this point, Kal needs to go an kill off these expos again. EffOrt however does a heroic job with low cost ling/defiler drops to keep Kal occupied, while sniping zealots with lings, and saving some of his ultras. This was crucial for EffOrt to keep attacking, and keep moving. EffOrt delayed long enough, and got lucky with a drop at 4 while Kal's army was out of position. His feint towards the main, and then second attack on the warping in nexus at 4 was crucial, and suddenly, EffOrt was at 6 bases, and Kal at 4.

Kal has an unstoppable army though, with a ridiculous amount of archons/zealots to eat up the ultra/ling/defiler combo that EffOrt prefers. Kal turns to attack EffOrt's fifth and sixth, but EffOrt counter attacks in three different places with the ultras he was able to preserve and produce while delaying. This was pretty brilliant in an of itself. but Kal knows all he needs to do is cannonwhore at his last remaining expo, and sit tight with a few hts and a reaver there, while his ball of death kills everything.

He goes for the 11 and 12 expos, and EffOrt pulls out just enough lings to delay for the morphing guardians. Suddenly, Kal's ball of death is going to take a huge hit if he commits to the top base. He does the only thing he can do, go kill off EffOrt's nat and main, but at this point, he simply can't answer the guardians, and it's obviously gg.
WOW really nice explanation. i agree with everything.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 27 2010 06:27 GMT
#411
OMG MODESTY GOING IN!!!

LOOKS LIKE MODESTY HAS THE ADVANTAGE ESPECIALLY WITH LINGS!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#412
On February 27 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 15:19 Mystlord wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:16 Ace wrote:
On February 27 2010 15:12 NeoOmega wrote:
I think Archon/Reaver/High Templar is as close to imbalanced as starcraft gets. Zerg Just cant directly engage it. Effort doing a pimp job of being everywhere and cutting Kal appart.


I always thought 3/3 Tank/Goli/Vessel was far worse.

I'd tend to agree if Terran micros good enough. Vessel is the real imba part :/


I'd believe you but you flipped Mafia :'(

Loooool
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#413
lol, ZvZ.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#414
zooms in
effort shakes head to the right
zoom out
effort shakes head to the right
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#415
Modesty just raped Effort.

GG FROM EFFORT!

ZVZ SNIPEUU!!
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#416
Modesty takes down the natural, GG
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#417
Modesty moves in with his lings and muta... and rapes everything Effort has... gg
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 27 2010 06:28 GMT
#418
so skyhigh next im guessing
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
February 27 2010 06:29 GMT
#419
On February 27 2010 15:13 SHr3DD3r wrote:
LOL WHY!?! WHY MODESTY!? ugh

I guess thats why...
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
February 27 2010 06:29 GMT
#420
wow effort with sloppy control. i really hope zvz in starcraft 2 isn't like it is now.
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