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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 164

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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 23 2010 11:18 GMT
#3261
Don't forget that according to abascus anyway a fan invaded flash's booth soon after the blackout. That's a huge mindset/concentration buster in any sport, but especially e-sports where so much is based on concentration and flow.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 23 2010 11:18 GMT
#3262
FLASH NEED WIN NOW JUST FOR DESTROY MBC AND KESPA XD

Beat after beat i will become stronger.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 23 2010 11:18 GMT
#3263
guys i have discovered the SOLUTION:

game 4 jaedong throws

final game flash and jaedong gg and leave at the same time

WHAT NOW MBC?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 23 2010 11:18 GMT
#3264
http://sportsphoto.news.naver.com/themePhoto.nhn?themeid=17521&id=257350
returns upon momentous occasions.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3265
If Flash typed GG, then there would be little complaints.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3266
People looking at the live report thread tomorrow are going to go "WOW SO MANY POSTS, MUST HAVE BEEN AN EPIC SERIES FULL OF LONG EPIC GAMES" and then they will suffer the greatest disappointment of their lives.
Neighbor
Profile Joined May 2009
United States119 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3267
Haha imagine if JD had won game 2...
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3268
go flash
Breaking Bad
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3269
This is sad... or hilarious. I'm not sure which.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3270
Flash and Jaedong aren't even in the studio anymore. That's just a loop playing over and over so they can shove countless comercial breaks down our throats until WE BUY ANYTHING!
ANYTHING I TELL YOU! OH MY GOD! ANYYYTHING!!! ON)DW/HOWIANEDW
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 23 2010 11:19 GMT
#3271
So i guess we have to wait another 2 hours until the next game?
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3272
If JD is smart, he'll GG the next game after 3 minutes.
Then move on to the decider.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3273
On January 23 2010 20:16 FireGuyX wrote:
If Flash typed GG, then there would be little complaints.


Yeah you said that about 7 times already
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3274
This is really unfair to Jaedong. If he wins MSL, a lot of people will think it's undeserved (not me).
He won game 3 anyway! Only blinded Flash fanboys won't admit it.
Flash only won from that decision: giving a "default" win to Jaedong in a game he won anyway LOL
I feel sorry for Jaedong
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3275
On January 23 2010 20:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 20:14 Ace wrote:
On January 23 2010 20:08 d_so wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:59 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:56 d_so wrote:
look guys, konondra mentioned this earlier but the kespa rep clearly said they made their decision partly on leftover resources which in TvZ will always be in zerg's favor. to paraphrase, she said they made their decision based on units, bases and resources... but really, if flash won the fight at 7 -- which was possible -- there's no way you can say zerg is at an advatnage. flash's sci vessels at 7 were down, sure, but so were jaedong's defilers -- his last one got irradiated as soon as it came out of the nydus canal

Flash didn't have the vessel count to stop defilers. JD had defilers their with nydus to reinforce and consume. Without 6 or so vessels Flash couldn't break through. And without killing 7 he couldn't win. He did a 2 base allin, based around stopping JD taking a 4th gas. That was his entire build. He lost all his vessels and JD had defilers and ultras at 7. There was nothing Flash could do.


look i know you are the expert but you are convenient ignroing the fact that jaedong's last surviving deflier died to irradiate, as well as having no more than 4 ultras at his 7. now, he definitiely could have more etc and sent them through the nydus... but the question is whether he could have done this before flash ran through the dark swarm and attacked the base, especially since the first two swarms were close to running out.

odds are more likely that jaedong would have new defilers in time to stop the fight, new ultras to replenish the troops... but at that moment, the reality was there were no defilers, very few ultras, no lings, and flash still had a substantial mnm force, the first two swarms near the base were almost out, and flash had a sci vessel at the nydus canal waiting for any other defilers to come through.



yep, they just showed the replay.

Jaedong lost all his defilers and Flash just got a brand new set of MM reinforcements. Jeadong DID NOT have both gases up - he just built the second extractor and had low drone saturation.

From the way it looked Flash was going to kill 7. We don't know what Jaedong had at his base to push through the nydus. We DO know he had lings at 7 with sunkens and like 3 ultras with swarms running out. Flash's mineral expo WAS NOT up but he was maynarding SCVs.

This is why people need to stfu and stop making shit up. Jaedong had an advantage but was in a very tight spot. No one knows how it would have turned out but Flash was in control for sure. Likewise Flash's expansion wasn't even up.

That wasn't when the blackout happened. The game went on for another minute or so.


watching the replay again in slow mo you see for a fact that there were only TWO ultras (third one died) + no defilers + 4 sci vessels remaining at the time of the blackout.

god this shit's making me mad. imma go smoke brb

wow they were about to start again... but delayed again... FUCK MBC GOD I TRIED DEFENDING UR IDIOTIC DECISION TO LIMIT THIS TO FAN CLUBS AND HAVE A VIRTUAL STADIUM BUT FUCK U HAVE FAILED
manner
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3276
e-sports' future is looking bright
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3277
it's nearing 6:30 am, i still have no clue wtf is going on, and i'm already starting to feel hung over (WTF). godamnit this sucks
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3278
go flash. take this shit.
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3279
On January 23 2010 20:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Good thing Nal_Ra bailed out. Must suck being a MBC commentator right now.

If Nal_rA was still at MBC, he'd rage so hard about the decision that he'd probably lose his job. He's such a KT fanboy

Nal_rA... I mean Jaedong fighting.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 11:20 GMT
#3280
if i were there in person i'd be fucking furious and if i were one of the players or coaches or parents i'd be about to cut somebody open
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