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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 162

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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3221
I don't even feel like watching anymore
KTY
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3222
LOL they stopped again

Referee stopped the game before it started
POGGERS
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3223
The crowd groaning at the continual delays.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3224
ill lol if JD ggs at the first mins of the game just to say "I don't take free wins "
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3225
Great... more delays... now what?
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3226
Enough drama bullshit. Start the games already.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3227
game 4 up. fuck em flash. jaedong, i love u but uve benefited unjustly from kespa's retardedness, plus u already have a msl. fuck em flash. fuck kespa and and claim your bonjwa status, don't let anyone take this shit from u...

never mind. they're about to start but fucking kespa has delayed the start gain for some retarded ass reason.

mbcgame go kill urselves
manner
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3228
LOL MORE SHIT WHO THE FUCK IS RUNNING THIS PLACE
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3229
Kespa ref immediately cancels the game lol.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3230
wtf is going on with the world
MBC and NBC are such dicks
MBC hates flash
NBC hates conan
ftw
FoBuLouS
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States570 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3231
Thank you NeverGG for the reports
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 23 2010 11:14 GMT
#3232
On January 23 2010 20:08 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:59 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:56 d_so wrote:
look guys, konondra mentioned this earlier but the kespa rep clearly said they made their decision partly on leftover resources which in TvZ will always be in zerg's favor. to paraphrase, she said they made their decision based on units, bases and resources... but really, if flash won the fight at 7 -- which was possible -- there's no way you can say zerg is at an advatnage. flash's sci vessels at 7 were down, sure, but so were jaedong's defilers -- his last one got irradiated as soon as it came out of the nydus canal

Flash didn't have the vessel count to stop defilers. JD had defilers their with nydus to reinforce and consume. Without 6 or so vessels Flash couldn't break through. And without killing 7 he couldn't win. He did a 2 base allin, based around stopping JD taking a 4th gas. That was his entire build. He lost all his vessels and JD had defilers and ultras at 7. There was nothing Flash could do.


look i know you are the expert but you are convenient ignroing the fact that jaedong's last surviving deflier died to irradiate, as well as having no more than 4 ultras at his 7. now, he definitiely could have more etc and sent them through the nydus... but the question is whether he could have done this before flash ran through the dark swarm and attacked the base, especially since the first two swarms were close to running out.

odds are more likely that jaedong would have new defilers in time to stop the fight, new ultras to replenish the troops... but at that moment, the reality was there were no defilers, very few ultras, no lings, and flash still had a substantial mnm force, the first two swarms near the base were almost out, and flash had a sci vessel at the nydus canal waiting for any other defilers to come through.



yep, they just showed the replay.

Jaedong lost all his defilers and Flash just got a brand new set of MM reinforcements. Jeadong DID NOT have both gases up - he just built the second extractor and had low drone saturation.

From the way it looked Flash was going to kill 7. We don't know what Jaedong had at his base to push through the nydus. We DO know he had lings at 7 with sunkens and like 3 ultras with swarms running out. Flash's mineral expo WAS NOT up but he was maynarding SCVs.

This is why people need to stfu and stop making shit up. Jaedong had an advantage but was in a very tight spot. No one knows how it would have turned out but Flash was in control for sure. Likewise Flash's expansion wasn't even up.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3233
This is just bad. Everybody knows that such a break can be disastrous for the concentration of a player. I so hope flash is gonna win this but right now i have no clue what's going to happen.

NATEMSL started off so strong and now this. If it wasnt for flash and jaedong i would have already left.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3234
On January 23 2010 20:12 jalstar wrote:
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On January 23 2010 20:11 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Jaedong did have a 4th gas up.


The 5th never went up, and iirc they based the win on Jaedong having 5 gases

so it's bs

That's the reasoning of the forum posters, not KeSPA.
Jaedong
bh.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States342 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3235
alright well, i have to leave to mexico in 1.5 hours, if this isnt done by then im gonna kielll someone
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3236
On January 23 2010 20:12 KwarK wrote:
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On January 23 2010 20:08 cz wrote:
On January 23 2010 20:02 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:58 jalstar wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:56 7mk wrote:

Look, people like Idra and Kwark are lightyears ahead of you in terms of sc knowledge, just dont...


Idra said Jaedong was ahead but it shouldn't be given to him and who's Kwark?

A guy who knows what a 2 base allin looks like.
I also got A- on icc.


Can you please acknowledge that you recognize that Flash had just started mining at an expo as the power went out?

Yes, that's why he was on 2 mining bases with one about to mine out. Can you please acknowledge that when a Terran stays on 2 bases with a heavy scv saturation for 10 minutes he mines out? Flash didn't take a 3rd for ages. He was on a 2 base allin. That 3rd was pretty much his entire economy.

Can you acknowledge that bigger comebacks than this would've been has happened in the SC history?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3237
Three things,

1. This final is ruined. Way to go MBC Game. Way to go. At least you get your fucking precious ratings by hoaxing everyone to think they're going to watch well run finals between the two most talented players in the scene right now.
2. People are wasting their time arguing about the decision made by the Kespa referee. There was no fucking way to keep the dynamic of the series the same once the power shut down in that fucking useless studio. The only thing we can agree upon was that Jaedong was in the lead at that point.
3. STOP PROMOTING YOUR FUCKING USELESS SHOWS AND FUCKING BEG FOR MERCY FOR FUCKING UP WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST FINALS IN RECENT TIMES. FUCKING DIE.
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42520 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3238
On January 23 2010 20:10 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 20:08 cz wrote:
On January 23 2010 20:02 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:58 jalstar wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:56 7mk wrote:

Look, people like Idra and Kwark are lightyears ahead of you in terms of sc knowledge, just dont...


Idra said Jaedong was ahead but it shouldn't be given to him and who's Kwark?

A guy who knows what a 2 base allin looks like.
I also got A- on icc.


Can you please acknowledge that you recognize that Flash had just started mining at an expo as the power went out?


You mean the part where he's said that in every post so far?

Pretty much this. Thanks Kyuukyuu.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3239
Flash and JD are friends, right? I hope this doesn't ruin that. I've been a Jaedong fan ever since EVER '07, but now Flash needs to win. Lee Young Ho Fighting!
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 23 2010 11:15 GMT
#3240
Already, the virtual studio idea forces the audience to trust that MBC isn't futzing around. But now after all this fiasco, when nobody from the public can actually see the players play?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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