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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 103

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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
January 23 2010 09:45 GMT
#2041
Flash had the economy advantage in game 1 and decided to throw it away by not playing safe in the one timing frame that Jaedong could abuse.

Jaedong had the economy advantage in game 2 and decided to throw it away by wasting all his guardians when he could have used them to defend his 4 gas economy right before his tech switch to ultralisks/crackling/defiler.

Poor games so far truth be told.
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integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
January 23 2010 09:45 GMT
#2042
lol jaedong flash rates your defense a 2/10
lavion
Profile Joined September 2009
Singapore286 Posts
January 23 2010 09:45 GMT
#2043
the only way you can beat flash is by being greedy at the correct times

jd is really pushing it by trying to give flash such a big timing window
Flash for bonjwa
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 23 2010 09:45 GMT
#2044
On January 23 2010 18:44 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:44 dukethegold wrote:
Guardians...

I am not sure what is the politically correct opinion on those units.


i think shine won a game with guardians once

that should sum it up

Guardians = An easy way to lose.
Yea Shine beat skyhigh with guardians on HBR
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conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
January 23 2010 09:45 GMT
#2045
On January 23 2010 18:40 nK)Duke wrote:
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On January 23 2010 18:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:
The drop into the mainbase was an all or nothing move for Flash. 12 or a few more cracklings right under the dropships and the drop would have failed o.o; And then no chance for Flash anymore. But really nice move, Jaedong probably thought Flash is going to drop the islands.


didn't look like that.

Yeah it did. Flash couldn't break all those sunkens and JD had 4 bases to Flash's 2 with all of hive tech about to kick in. Dropping the main was do-or-die for Flash, and even then I was surprised it worked, but JD didn't have enough lings to defend. Brilliant.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2046
On January 23 2010 18:42 FridgeToss wrote:
Jaedong wings = omg he raped flash XDDD!!11!1
Flash wins = omg Jaedong screwed that one up, flash = extra sharp cheddar terran T.T



Since you put it that way, he did the Terran variation of bulldog after all...
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2047
On January 23 2010 18:45 SuperArc wrote:
Flash's decision making > Jaedong's

being a huge jaedong fanboy i really want to disagree but after seeing jaedong build those guardians.....man.....
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2048
Does anyone think that this is a high level of play?

I really feel that Flash gave away game one and Jaedong gave away game two. It's like when me and my noob friends play Go or chess - the one who fucks up the least wins.
I
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2049
On January 23 2010 18:45 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:42 JohnBall wrote:
I'm a guardian. I suck.
Even Jaedong can't make me work.

Are you talking about your icon, because it's a lurker icon lol

He'll reach Guardian icon by the end of this thread.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2050
yeah hard to imagine what jaedong was up to when he saw those two starports. i imagine his build didn't involve him flying into flash's exposed main and then flying out again so it didn't factor in the additional information that wraiths were about to rape his attack
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2051
On January 23 2010 18:45 SuperArc wrote:
Flash's decision making > Jaedong's
Like that time in game 1 when he decided not to build turrets. Really great.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2052
Instead he should've secretly hatching hydras and morphing into the most epic stop lurker trap ever!

But Fuck Guards that lost instantly.. Geez
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2053
That was actually a pretty amazing BO by JD.... Those Guardians did their jobs, but JD should've put a sunk in the main..... How did he not expect an elevator? He saw the 2 ports. He needed lings patrolling the ridges. He got careless.... That game should've been his.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2054
Yeah pretty bad game by JD there. But fack yeah Flash fighting! Game 3 I think JD will take though... Odd Eye is just a weird map imo
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2055
I bet julyzerg could have broken through those 12 sunkens with those marines :D :D:D
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2056
game 2 was so awesome. Brilliant move by Flash!
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 23 2010 09:46 GMT
#2057
Sick ass micro from Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 23 2010 09:47 GMT
#2058


shine is immune to the greater spire curse, he also beat really with guardians
Picture
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada75 Posts
January 23 2010 09:47 GMT
#2059
Morphing the guardians wasn't a mistake. The mistake was not leaving 2-3 guardians in base.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 23 2010 09:47 GMT
#2060
I think if there were scourge those guardians could have done better but I think another mistake was having so much trouble dealing with those drops. It just doesn't seem like it should have been able to do that much damage but it did more then it should have imo T_T.

Game 3 hopefully with Jaedong winning
When I think of something else, something will go here
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