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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 105

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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#2081
7 Rax vs 4 Pool in the next game.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#2082
are you joking me, interviews inbetween series with randoms at audience?holy shit mbc seriously does suck.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
January 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#2083
HAWT
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#2084
Both guys player below their abilities
returns upon momentous occasions.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 09:49:57
January 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#2085
fan unhides face top do interview this is amazing
On January 23 2010 18:45 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:42 JohnBall wrote:
I'm a guardian. I suck.
Even Jaedong can't make me work.

Are you talking about your icon, because it's a lurker icon lol

wat
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2086
pretty composed gal being interviewed - is she leader of a fanclub?

how random though, I'd prefer things like this not to happen
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2087
On January 23 2010 18:44 On_Slaught wrote:
Another problem with guardians is it is painfully clear from any game Flash has ever played that he always counters guardians instantly with wraiths which he pre-builds.

How JD doesn't know this is a complete mystery and it might end up costing him the MSL if he doesn't get his shit back together.


look it's not that jaedong doesnt know his gaurdians are going to get countered. the gaurdians were only there to delay for ultras. it wasnt a matter of if they would but when... he got the gaurds out by the time there were only two wraiths, so they didnt die that slow and were semi successful.

u can say that flash wasted x resources in having his gaurdains die... but jd never made more than his first batch of mutas. the money he saved from making replacement mutas was spent on the gaurds, so it wasnt too much of a waste in terms of resources.

the problem was not stopping the drop. maybe jd expected flash to make more wraiths, whereas flash went dropshops right after his first two wraiths
manner
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2088
ads are so long I want to watch the finals!!!
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2089
On January 23 2010 18:47 keV. wrote:
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On January 23 2010 18:46 Gigaudas wrote:
Does anyone think that this is a high level of play?

I really feel that Flash gave away game one and Jaedong gave away game two. It's like when me and my noob friends play Go or chess - the one who fucks up the least wins.


This is often the case with the s-class group. First mistake loses.


But these weren't just mistakes, these were huge terrible decisions.
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lordmordor
Profile Joined February 2009
United States209 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2090
having like 2 of those muta's morph into devourers instead of guards and that force would have been much more dangerous...or do what everyone else said and just have them defend.

also, when was the last time we've seen Devourers, lol
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2091
ee ae ong igthing!~
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2092
On January 23 2010 18:47 Sebastien wrote:
I'm one of the most rabid Jaedong fanboys but seriously, WTF WAS HE THINKING GOING OFFENSIVE GUARDIANS?! That was pretty much the only way he could throw the game away. I feel sick.

Especially since Flash's main was pretty vunerable to muta harrass.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2093
I think Jaedong should go Guardians again at some point in this series, and I think he will. He almost made it work this time, if only he had more scourge to go along with them.
landonious
Profile Joined January 2010
United States60 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2094
OMG - sick sick strategy guys...

Here is what Jaedong should have done... he had 4 base running... so he can proxy hatchery near flash's natural in a place flash would never expect or scan cause its not near any minerals and then use this for scourge making... BOOM! scourge is instantly deployed to the frontline with no on route sniping! anyone comment?? i think this is gosu strat that can be used effectively by S-class player!
Jaedong Fighting!!
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9045 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2095
Interviewing Ninja girl.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2096
On January 23 2010 18:48 nozaro33 wrote:
I think the guards were there to stall for Ultras and force Flash to make wraiths instead of SVs. Just my 2 cents... Flash GOGO!


He only build 2 wraiths, which is all you would ever need. Hardly worth however many guards...
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2097
On January 23 2010 18:46 Gigaudas wrote:
Does anyone think that this is a high level of play?

I really feel that Flash gave away game one and Jaedong gave away game two. It's like when me and my noob friends play Go or chess - the one who fucks up the least wins.

That's how any game or sport is. Andre Agassi didn't win games by overpowering his opponent, he won because he could go longer in rallies without making a mistake.
$♥$
cuteFayth
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada1167 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2098
i dont play broodwar much anymore

but these 2 seems pretty solid

got 375 bucks on flash, go flash ~_~
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2099
On January 23 2010 18:40 blade55555 wrote:
I really can't believe how Jaedong didn't think those drops were coming that was his biggest mistake he should have known . Oh well Jaedong fighting! gogo jaedong win game 3/4 :D

actually he popped 4 scourge with almost perfect timing and intercepted the dropships after only 2 units popped out. the d-matrix just saved one of them and that was enough for flash to continue elevating troops until he killed the main.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2100
On January 23 2010 18:48 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:47 jalstar wrote:


shine is immune to the greater spire curse, he also beat really with guardians

And Fantasy, he raped fantasy with guards

Looks like Shine is the only one who can win with Guardians
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