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Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 23 2010 09:49 GMT
#2101
SCOURGES GOT SNIPED ON ROUTE TO GUARDS UNEXPECTEDLY BY MARINES

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DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2102
On January 23 2010 18:48 Warrior Madness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:47 Puosu wrote:
On January 23 2010 18:46 Warrior Madness wrote:
That was actually a pretty amazing BO by JD.... Those Guardians did their jobs, but JD should've put a sunk in the main..... How did he not expect an elevator? He saw the 2 ports. He needed lings patrolling the ridges. He got careless.... That game should've been his.

The guardians definitely didn't do their job, a few scourges in the mix and he would've raped that natural.


I mean in the sense that it pulled flash's entier army back, and killed a lot of rines. But yeah... That scourge micro was terrible... The turrets killed it, not even the wraiths.....

Actually i suspect that he microed the turrets to specifically fire on the scourge, because the turrets went from shooting guards to scourge to guards again
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 09:50:28
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2103
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51571 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2104
jd fan incredibly cute
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sidesprang
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway1033 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2105
jaedong fan is much cuter than flash fan
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2106
IDRA????
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2107
On January 23 2010 18:45 Letmelose wrote:
Flash had the economy advantage in game 1 and decided to throw it away by not playing safe in the one timing frame that Jaedong could abuse.

Jaedong had the economy advantage in game 2 and decided to throw it away by wasting all his guardians when he could have used them to defend his 4 gas economy right before his tech switch to ultralisks/crackling/defiler.

Poor games so far truth be told.


I wouldn't call them poor games, I mean the rate that they escalate makes them so exciting, small windows of time can shake the whole thing and they have. It's easy to make mistakes at such speed and complexity that they play in.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2108
apparently these girls aren't random audience but the FANCLUB LEADERS of their respective progamer
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2109
On January 23 2010 18:50 GTR wrote:
jd fan incredibly cute


+1
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2110
Btw, why are people saying that flash forgot to make turrets in game 1? This is zero's build and the mutas come before stim. It looked like flash was actually well prepared for it, cause he had more rines than usualy. BUT, his rines were in his main rather than in his nat. If his marines were there those mutas would've done squat. But either way, flash would'nt have had enough concentrated defense at both his main and nat at the same time. That's the point of the build.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2111
Idra beside that scarf girl?
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2112
Wow MBC really knows how to stall
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2113
On January 23 2010 18:47 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 18:46 Warrior Madness wrote:
That was actually a pretty amazing BO by JD.... Those Guardians did their jobs, but JD should've put a sunk in the main..... How did he not expect an elevator? He saw the 2 ports. He needed lings patrolling the ridges. He got careless.... That game should've been his.

The guardians definitely didn't do their job, a few scourges in the mix and he would've raped that natural.


not 100% sure on all this but Flash is really good at intercepting scourges. When the guardians were spotted Flash pulled his main army back not to attack the guards head on but to intercept and scourge. This reaction was first displayed vs Calm on Fighting spirit and is a reason why he is so good vs guards.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2114
On January 23 2010 18:50 Disregard wrote:
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On January 23 2010 18:50 GTR wrote:
jd fan incredibly cute


+1

screenshots? i missed it
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10345 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2115
On January 23 2010 18:48 Puosu wrote:
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On January 23 2010 18:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
If you're going to go Greater Spire, you've got to mix in some Devourers and Queens like type-b. Pure guards = pure doom

Guardians as a surprise are fairly cheap if you already have mutas alive from your muta harass, you don't have to devote your game to doing them after that one surprise.

Guardians are horrible because you only need a 1 or 2 wraiths to kill them, they delay your defiler mound (and ultra cavern), and as a result, we saw JD's pure lings couldn't kill the infantry in his own main because there was no other tech ready to assist.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2116
That was a really, really strange game. Seemed like a BO win advantage that was increased by the fact that flash continued to build an incredible amount of marines he had no use for. Then Jaedong retreated with his mutas from a defenseless main to defend his natural that had 10+ sunkens, attacked with his guardians before he had any support, lost all of them and Flash somehow managed to win the game with a risky drop.

lol, I haven't watched progaming in a while and I feel like I'm completely missing what went on this game.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2117
SS501 Hyun Joong is here. He's a idol in Korea.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
January 23 2010 09:50 GMT
#2118
On January 23 2010 18:49 Gigaudas wrote:
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On January 23 2010 18:47 keV. wrote:
On January 23 2010 18:46 Gigaudas wrote:
Does anyone think that this is a high level of play?

I really feel that Flash gave away game one and Jaedong gave away game two. It's like when me and my noob friends play Go or chess - the one who fucks up the least wins.


This is often the case with the s-class group. First mistake loses.


But these weren't just mistakes, these were huge terrible decisions.


A bad decision isn't a mistake?
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 23 2010 09:51 GMT
#2119
since it's almost 7a.m. i'm taking naps between games... they are taking so long god damn....

loved game two btw... perfect execution by flash
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Tapioca Weasel
Profile Joined January 2010
81 Posts
January 23 2010 09:51 GMT
#2120
I thought that was a great game. Flash made it look easy, but it was a risky strategy.
I want to see July and Reach fight. Like with fists.
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