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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#781
On December 25 2009 19:08 BanZu wrote:
I have to say, I'm somewhat glad that Flash cheesed.

I'm not sure why...

Because it let's Jaedong (fans) be all "oh well Jaedong got cheesed and there's nothing he could have done about it"
brood war for life, brood war forever
XiaoLongNuSucks
Profile Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso285 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#782
fuck, Flash won, that means no christmas for me this year T.T
Yin Zhiping: "Xiaolongnü, stop fvcking that idiot Yang Guo, come n suck my d!ck, babe!"
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:10:27
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#783
On December 25 2009 19:06 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.


First game was STRAIGHT UP, and it was a one-sided rape
This game was so much more exciting than the first game.

Game one was a win, based on one or two mistakes on JD's part and immaculate play on Flash's part. It wasn't one-sided rape. It was a very close game that was enjoyable to watch. JD lost at a certain point, after-which it was not very exciting.

This game was similar, in that JD lost at a precise moment, prior to which the game was in the balance. The difference was that Flash forced the exciting turning point to happen within the first few minutes of the game. It was not more exciting.

EDIT: for past tense.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#784
On December 25 2009 19:08 johnnyspazz wrote:
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?

Yes, tons. Even cries of imbalance.
Jaedong
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#785
On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.

EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed.

Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed?

Fighting Spirit and HBR are two different maps, and JD had a week to prepare very hard. Don't use that analogy.
Writerptrk
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#786
first game flash played perfectly and walked over jaedong. what i hoped for was jaedong to practice his ass off for his game against flash and they'd have at least one awesome game. regardless who won, as long as it was a good game.

flash bunker rushing and jd not being able to respond/handle it isn't what i'd call an awesome game. i am disappoint T_T
@QxGDarkCell ._.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51707 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:11:13
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#787
On December 25 2009 19:08 johnnyspazz wrote:
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?


everyone felt robbed of a good series.
like literally everyone.

here was the hype thread;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19422

and LR thread

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=20075
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#788
It's an incredibly smart thing for Flash to do, he had the leeway to lose this and go for a third game, it was unexpected, it's mixing up its play, and its sending a message to his future opponents that he does mix it up, which may/will affect their judgement. An exiting 8min game > 15minrape.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#789
On December 25 2009 19:07 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:07 Creationism wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.


ROFL I seriously can't believe your post. Go look up the number of times Jaedong 4/5 pooled some asshole into submission and the 9 pool vs fantasy. Like... REALLY???


Fantasy had a bad wall..it was his fault

so it was jaedongs fault he didn't scout with his drone on hbr where terrans like to proxy?!!?!
four pool vs hwasin??! vs fantasy?! damn i dont even like both of these players but jaedong fanboys are fuckin hilarious LOL
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#790
On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.

EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed.

Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed?


I like Flash but I'm by no means a fanboy. I always like good and long games and I would prefer a 1 hour TvZ on HBR with Jaedong winning and a third game with Flash winning, but still, this is how it played out.

Also try to pull of a bunkerrush against a caliber like Jaedong, then you will know why its respetable :-)!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#791
On December 25 2009 19:08 johnnyspazz wrote:
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?


Yes lol, you have no idea.

And I'm still bitter about it ;_;
TranslatorBaa!
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#792
what happened when flash went standard? roll. cheese? roll.

ain't flash's fault. right?
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#793
On December 25 2009 19:08 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:07 Creationism wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.


ROFL I seriously can't believe your post. Go look up the number of times Jaedong 4/5 pooled some asshole into submission and the 9 pool vs fantasy. Like... REALLY???

Skyhigh: retaliation
Fantasy: lots of retaliation
Hwasin: The only cheese without retaliation.

Good use of those facts, btw, and we're not even talking about other games or their overall reputation but THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR.


No, hes talking about how Flash can consider himself a rival to JD when he cheeses. It has NO logic behind it at all. Cheese is a BIG part of JD's game, thats why he is a Bo5 monster.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#794
im sorry, but i dont want to be chillin', seein people talk about flash vs jaedong, just to see some guy's naked chest pop up in front of my face
no thanks
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#795
On December 25 2009 19:09 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
first game flash played perfectly and walked over jaedong. what i hoped for was jaedong to practice his ass off for his game against flash and they'd have at least one awesome game. regardless who won, as long as it was a good game.

flash bunker rushing and jd not being able to respond/handle it isn't what i'd call an awesome game. i am disappoint T_T


im not sure what im feeling. FUCK YEA or WTF?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#796
On December 25 2009 19:09 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:08 johnnyspazz wrote:
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?


everyone felt robbed of a good series.
like literally everyone.

here was the LR thread;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19422

lol boxer vs yellow and it's 5 pages? how far we have come o.O
brood war for life, brood war forever
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#797
Flash is in incredible position. His future zerg opponent will now have an additional dilemma to think about.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:10 GMT
#798
Can we all just agree that:

Flashed won legitimately with a strategy that served him best
Flash Cheesed.
The game was overall disappointing.

And drop it?
Jaedong
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
December 25 2009 10:11 GMT
#799
I don't fault flash for his strategy, I was just hoping for a more interesting game. oh well.
esq>n
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 25 2009 10:11 GMT
#800
People dissapointed in the game should keep in mind that it wasn't just Flash who was responsible for how quickly it ended, Jaedong was too! He should have expected something like that considering Flash won the first game, but instead he played right into the most obvious strategy that Flash had available.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
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