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On December 25 2009 19:11 Malinor wrote:
As a rapid JD-Fanboy, I have no problem with Flashs play at all. It was very well executed and thought through. And JD maybe could have responded in a better way.
But I don't get how some people like Plexa here are implying, that JD would not have had a chance in a straight up game. It's like they learned nothing from the last two years of pro-SC.
It's like he put it himself - blind fanboyism. 
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On December 25 2009 19:11 FireGuyX wrote:
I don't know what everyone is mad about, as a Flash fan I'm happy. The only thing I was disappointed about is that Flash didn't completely demolish JD's bases.
Some of us were looking forward to an epic game! Not a 5m bunker rush.
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Flash owns the shit out of Jaedong, nice to see.
sry Jaedong you cant just always 12 hatch 'because Flash going early CC'.
Cry fanboys cry. The fanboy hate at the WINNER is the best xmas gift of all.
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On December 25 2009 19:09 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.
I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.
EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed. Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed? I like Flash but I'm by no means a fanboy. I always like good and long games and I would prefer a 1 hour TvZ on HBR with Jaedong winning and a third game with Flash winning, but still, this is how it played out. Also try to pull of a bunkerrush against a caliber like Jaedong, then you will know why its respetable :-)! I don't seriously consider Jaedong's ZvT any match for Flash's TvZ at the moment. Zero's ZvT looks so much better at the moment - and it showed in Flash vs Zero. Of course I would prefer a 1 hour long amazing game between the two - but with the way Jaedong looks at the moment that just was never going to happen. To the people saying you can't say the games will turn out the same - well every Flash TvZ in the past month has looked almost identical (barring the game against hyun). Flash would have dominated Jaedong no matter what build he used, I'm just glad he used this cheese since its made for one hell of a hilarious thread.
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I want to see pics of all the nerds saying that one booth girl is ugly. In christmas themed minidresses.
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wtf is going on, why no start?
tech difficulties?
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Boxer is torn somewhere.
He loves that first game b/c it's a bunker rush beating a zerg.
He hates it because it's shit like this that makes casual fans leave the game.
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On December 25 2009 19:13 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:09 G.s)NarutO wrote:On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.
I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.
EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed. Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed? I like Flash but I'm by no means a fanboy. I always like good and long games and I would prefer a 1 hour TvZ on HBR with Jaedong winning and a third game with Flash winning, but still, this is how it played out. Also try to pull of a bunkerrush against a caliber like Jaedong, then you will know why its respetable :-)! I don't seriously consider Jaedong's ZvT any match for Flash's TvZ at the moment. Zero's ZvT looks so much better at the moment - and it showed in Flash vs Zero. Of course I would prefer a 1 hour long amazing game between the two - but with the way Jaedong looks at the moment that just was never going to happen. To the people saying you can't say the games will turn out the same - well every Flash TvZ in the past month has looked almost identical (barring the game against hyun). Flash would have dominated Jaedong no matter what build he used, I'm just glad he used this cheese since its made for one hell of a hilarious thread.
I don't find this thread hilarious. I find it irritating and pathetic
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Calm vs Pure now dudes need to chillax
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On December 25 2009 19:08 Kazius wrote:JD could have known that it was an 8rax build by the fact that the overlord got attacked very early. Instead of pool before hatchery and putting up some sunken colonies, he thought "lol, I'm Lee Jae Dong, and this ain't gonna work", and then he lost his overlord, and didn't cancel and put up a defense. And when the bunker was up, he could have just retreated and played for one base tech - just like the average Terran does against 9pool speed builds, instead, he tried to all-in and take the bunker down when 5 SCVs were repairing it and was left with two drones when the dust settled. This is a list of things JD could, and should, have done better. Flash won the first game, so he knew that worst case, it would throw JD off, and would give him a psychological edge for the final game. I called a BBS in the chat, but Flash is more solid a player than I am 
He already placed the 12 hat . Even if he cancel it the timing of the pool will be so bad that Jaedong will be behind either way probably playing 1 base .
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It was really disappointing, i was hoping for an epic game and it ended with a cheese..
I'm partially a jaedong fan, but it's really disappointing when u expect a long match to turn out so short..
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On December 25 2009 19:13 On_Slaught wrote:
Boxer is torn somewhere.
He loves that first game b/c it's a bunker rush beating a zerg.
He hates it because it's shit like this that makes casual fans leave the game.
LOL
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On December 25 2009 19:13 On_Slaught wrote:
Boxer is torn somewhere.
He loves that first game b/c it's a bunker rush beating a zerg.
He hates it because it's shit like this that makes casual fans leave the game.
tbh I think boxer's most famous and exciting game is a bunker rush (v yellow in finals)
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This is JD's fault afterall. He completely got raped in the 1st match which gives flash more flexibility on what kinda build to use. And he went for the risky one which worked in favour
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On December 25 2009 19:13 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:09 G.s)NarutO wrote:On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.
I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.
EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed. Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed? I like Flash but I'm by no means a fanboy. I always like good and long games and I would prefer a 1 hour TvZ on HBR with Jaedong winning and a third game with Flash winning, but still, this is how it played out. Also try to pull of a bunkerrush against a caliber like Jaedong, then you will know why its respetable :-)! I don't seriously consider Jaedong's ZvT any match for Flash's TvZ at the moment. Zero's ZvT looks so much better at the moment - and it showed in Flash vs Zero. Of course I would prefer a 1 hour long amazing game between the two - but with the way Jaedong looks at the moment that just was never going to happen. To the people saying you can't say the games will turn out the same - well every Flash TvZ in the past month has looked almost identical (barring the game against hyun). Flash would have dominated Jaedong no matter what build he used, I'm just glad he used this cheese since its made for one hell of a hilarious thread.
zero fanboy lolol
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JD fans: bawwwwwwww flash cheesed flash sucks
Flash fans: lol at JD fanboys flash owns jaedong sucks
For anyone just joining us, that's a summary of the last 20 pages.
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On December 25 2009 19:14 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:13 On_Slaught wrote:
Boxer is torn somewhere.
He loves that first game b/c it's a bunker rush beating a zerg.
He hates it because it's shit like this that makes casual fans leave the game. tbh I think boxer's most famous and exciting game is a bunker rush (v yellow in finals)
It was semifinals.
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On December 25 2009 19:14 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:08 Kazius wrote:JD could have known that it was an 8rax build by the fact that the overlord got attacked very early. Instead of pool before hatchery and putting up some sunken colonies, he thought "lol, I'm Lee Jae Dong, and this ain't gonna work", and then he lost his overlord, and didn't cancel and put up a defense. And when the bunker was up, he could have just retreated and played for one base tech - just like the average Terran does against 9pool speed builds, instead, he tried to all-in and take the bunker down when 5 SCVs were repairing it and was left with two drones when the dust settled. This is a list of things JD could, and should, have done better. Flash won the first game, so he knew that worst case, it would throw JD off, and would give him a psychological edge for the final game. I called a BBS in the chat, but Flash is more solid a player than I am He already placed the 12 hat . Even if he cancel it the timing of the pool will be so bad that Jaedong will be behind either way probably playing 1 base .
And i'm pretty sure jaedong threw up the pool before he scouted the marine.
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Zero is nowhere near JDs zvt.
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They should make all the players dress in Santa's suits imo.
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