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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 25 2009 10:07 GMT
#761
so disapointed.... new hbr looks so bad for zvt how can you hide your ovi against that build even with 9 pool you are fucked
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#762
On December 25 2009 19:04 Cap10 wrote:
[image loading]


LEE YOUNG HO I BELIEVE.


BAN?
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#763
On December 25 2009 19:07 Creationism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.


ROFL I seriously can't believe your post. Go look up the number of times Jaedong 4/5 pooled some asshole into submission and the 9 pool vs fantasy. Like... REALLY???

Skyhigh: retaliation
Fantasy: lots of retaliation
Hwasin: The only cheese without retaliation.

Good use of those facts, btw, and we're not even talking about other games or their overall reputation but THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR.
Jaedong
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#764
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.

EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed.


So what would you prefer: Calm cheeses Flash out of the semi's or you see 'good' games and Flash wins?

And he may not be gaining respect in the eyes of the foreign fans. Korean fans don't seem to have this ridiculous 'cheesing = cheating' idea.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#765
On December 25 2009 19:07 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:03 Myxomatosis wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:00 OneOther wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:59 Myxomatosis wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:55 Lebesgue wrote:
Flash never cheeses. I was waiting till Flash cheese for once and he finaly did. Mixing cheese with the standard play will only make him that much more dangerous.

you're either a troll, retarded, or both.

are you a retarded troll?

what lebesgue said is true. the commentators were saying the same thing the entire time as well.

flash never cheeses? are you fucking kidding me?

have you seen flash's last 15 tvzs?

so what about his last 15 TvZ? Flash has cheesed in big matches before and it is obnoxious
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#766
On December 25 2009 19:07 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.

EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed.

Tell me. Would you rather watch game 1 again, but on HBR? or the game we just witnessed?

do you really think that every game that two progamers play standard will play out the same? should the jaedong vs. bisu showmatch just been a bo1?
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#767
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#768
just stfu all of you

Flash won. he was better. that's all.
KTY
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#769
JD could have known that it was an 8rax build by the fact that the overlord got attacked very early. Instead of pool before hatchery and putting up some sunken colonies, he thought "lol, I'm Lee Jae Dong, and this ain't gonna work", and then he lost his overlord, and didn't cancel and put up a defense. And when the bunker was up, he could have just retreated and played for one base tech - just like the average Terran does against 9pool speed builds, instead, he tried to all-in and take the bunker down when 5 SCVs were repairing it and was left with two drones when the dust settled. This is a list of things JD could, and should, have done better.

Flash won the first game, so he knew that worst case, it would throw JD off, and would give him a psychological edge for the final game. I called a BBS in the chat, but Flash is more solid a player than I am
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#770
I have to say, I'm somewhat glad that Flash cheesed.

I'm not sure why...
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#771
Chill out dudes it's not like Jaedong was going to beat Flash anyway
brood war for life, brood war forever
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#772
what's with the flash hate? almoyst EVERY, and I mean EVERY zerg he's played against has 12-hatched against him in the last 20 games.

Adding some unpredictability, some aggressiveness and some cheese is ALWAYS good for your play.

I think flash did the right thing, cos now Zero will be thinking twice about his game tmr.
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#773
It was, in fact, the perfect bunker rush, at the perfect moment. But it was still a bunker rush. So... yeah. Jaedong was absolutely destroyed in this series. What else is there to say?
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HKriceboy88
Profile Joined October 2009
United States248 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#774
On December 25 2009 19:08 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:04 Cap10 wrote:
[image loading]


LEE YOUNG HO I BELIEVE.


BAN?


BANNNNNN
Heros- Jaedong, Day9
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 10:08 GMT
#775
On December 25 2009 19:08 BanZu wrote:
I have to say, I'm somewhat glad that Flash cheesed.

I'm not sure why...


Because Calm will be afraid to 12 hatch in the semis, making Flash's life easier.
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:13:23
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#776
another poll!

[image loading]

Poll: Which cheese by Flash was more obvious?
(Vote): Flash vs Jaedong set #2 EVER OSL 2009
(Vote): Flash vs Effort Ro16 BACCHUS OSL 2009


TL has spoken. Jaedong and Effort should have both expected Flash to cheese them in their respective games.

i guess players dont exactly expect flash to cheese because of his macro style? but yah i agree...should have expected it!
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#777
On December 25 2009 19:07 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:03 mmgoose wrote:
no such thing as "cheese" it's just a risky early aggression that punishes those who should've known better.

I'm almost tempted to believe you are serious.

Wow I never knew you were such a fanboy

Are you reading the ludicrousness of that post? Even chill says it's cheese.
Jaedong
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#778
I am pretty disappointed in how that game ended, Flash did the strategy he thought would get him to win and he won. I know I hate him for doing that but honestly he just did a really perfectly executed cheese and JD tried everything he could but failed at it.. Its a tactic and a win is a win, oh well what can you do =[.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#779
On December 25 2009 19:08 johnnyspazz wrote:
Quick question, was there this much outcry with (T)BoxeR bunker rushed (Z)YellOw three times in a row in a bo5?

Yes, it was ridiculous lol
Boxer even wrote some shit on his blog about it it was that bad
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Eloquent
Profile Joined July 2009
United States475 Posts
December 25 2009 10:09 GMT
#780
I agree with the comment ages ago. "I hope the dress of the girls happen to fall off."
Jaedong for Platnium Mouse.
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