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onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
December 25 2009 10:04 GMT
#721
i wish he hadnt cheesed, the fans deserved a better game than that
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:04 GMT
#722
On December 25 2009 19:03 mmgoose wrote:
no such thing as "cheese" it's just a risky early aggression that punishes those who should've known better.

I'm almost tempted to believe you are serious.
Jaedong
Cap10
Profile Joined October 2009
United States71 Posts
December 25 2009 10:04 GMT
#723
[image loading]


LEE YOUNG HO I BELIEVE.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 25 2009 10:04 GMT
#724
On December 25 2009 19:02 mogg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:57 kuku8 wrote:
JD pool 4 - GENIOUS. Flash - barrak 6 - OMG CHEESY NEWBIE.


When JD 4 pooled fantasy it was revenge, so it was acceptable :<


an stx fan not remembering when JD 4 pooled hwasin in MSL!?


Exactly.
And a fial 4 pool (or was it 5 pool) against SKyhigh in winner's league. Jaedong cheesed much more than Flash in last year or two. In contrast, I was angry at FLash sometimes that he doesn't mix cheese with his standard play (and as far as I remember I wasn't the only Flash fan).
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
December 25 2009 10:04 GMT
#725
now no chance for Pure tt .. anti toss maps
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#726
even if JD started with a 9pool, he'd've lost the OL, which would put him on par with Flash
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:06:39
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#727
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.

EDIT: Even if I weren't a Calm fan I would be pulling for him to smash Flash in the semis because of the shit we have just witnessed.
radadaundandan
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria3148 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#728
It counts the unit in the building of course.
Flash returns...
HKriceboy88
Profile Joined October 2009
United States248 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#729
On December 25 2009 19:04 Cap10 wrote:
[image loading]


LEE YOUNG HO I BELIEVE.



FLAME THIS BITCH
Heros- Jaedong, Day9
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#730
Calm's boothbabe looks like Jaedong...
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#731
On December 25 2009 19:01 Avidkeystamper wrote:
No, it means that if you hypothetically told me your BO before the game, and that BO has almost no chance of working against a similarly skilled opponent, it would fail. Those if I knew you would 5 fact beforehand, then it would never work on similar skill levels.


So you're saying if I told you I was going 8 rax before the game started I would have no chance at winning? I'd be behind in economy, especially if you go 12 hatch or whatever, but it certainly doesn't mean I'm out of the game. Something like 4pool or 2 proxy gates, yes. 8rax, no.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#732
On December 25 2009 19:03 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:02 jalstar wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:00 Malinor wrote:

On another note, I believe it was 7rax.


7 at most, I saw 7/x while the rax was building.

it said 7 while it was definitely 8. does it not count units that are building?

The unit counting thing doesn't count units being built, I believe.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#733
On December 25 2009 19:00 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:57 o3.power91 wrote:

i said Flash likes to cheese better players. I didn't say Flash ALWAYS cheeses better players.


What I meant to say is how can you say JD is the better player after getting DESTROYED in a straight up game one. Also, if he is better, he had plenty of time to cancel the hatch and go into the game with a late expo. Apparently he figured he couldn't win with a 1base start, which implies he doesn't feel superior to Flash in any way.

If it was a PvT and the Protoss goes for a 12 nex, I would understand your argument of him not being able to win with a 1 base start. However this is ZvT and I believe 12 hatch is a standard. If he did feel Flash was superior to him, why risk going for the midgame and not try to rush him early on? As for the first game, I am not taking anything away from Flash. He did play better than Jaedong in that particular game. I still say Jaedong is the better player.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#734
On December 25 2009 19:03 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:00 OneOther wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:59 Myxomatosis wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:55 Lebesgue wrote:
Flash never cheeses. I was waiting till Flash cheese for once and he finaly did. Mixing cheese with the standard play will only make him that much more dangerous.

you're either a troll, retarded, or both.

are you a retarded troll?

what lebesgue said is true. the commentators were saying the same thing the entire time as well.

flash never cheeses? are you fucking kidding me?

Yea... OneOther, Myx is talking about the "Flash never cheeses" statement.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 25 2009 10:05 GMT
#735
On December 25 2009 19:04 Cap10 wrote:
[image loading]


LEE YOUNG HO I BELIEVE.


ahahaha excellent first post
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
December 25 2009 10:06 GMT
#736
I'm just depressed the two players that just minutes ago got such crazy crowd cheers, and were facing each other with insane 9-1 stats, ended the most hyped match in 5min without a proper followup to come for god knows how long.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 25 2009 10:06 GMT
#737
On December 25 2009 19:04 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:02 jalstar wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:00 Malinor wrote:

On another note, I believe it was 7rax.


7 at most, I saw 7/x while the rax was building.

i counted 6 when he was sending out his first SCV.
Idra says it's 8. While i do not respect him, he has slightly more knowledge about tvz than i have, so i wont argue on that anymore, but i'll chek the VOD

that counter only shows what units are on the map at the time, it doesnt count whats building. it said 6, had one scv building, and by the time the scv arrived at the spot the barracks was being built it would be 8 supply.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:06 GMT
#738
On December 25 2009 19:05 thopol wrote:
You Flash fanboys are laughable. You would rather your player win than watch a good game. I have no preference in the matchup, I just want to watch good StarCraft. The game should have been disappointing to all SC fans, JD or Flash alignment notwithstanding. I appreciate the fact that it was a well-executed cheese and that JD should not have gotten greedy in trying to let his 2nd hatch finish in addition to defending. I understand how Flash legitimately won the series and played the better game each time.

I cannot come to terms with how Flash wanted to be respected like Jaedong is, and still did a cheesy build. He wanted to be seen as his rival, and a legitimate victory tonight would have earned him the coveted title of JD's rival. I can't believe Flash fan's enjoyed that. I can't see him gaining any respect in the eyes of fans for that. It was nothing but a massive disappointment.


First game was STRAIGHT UP, and it was a one-sided rape
This game was so much more exciting than the first game.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
December 25 2009 10:06 GMT
#739
jaedong ruined the computer in rage at being raped

only explanation for the delays
Kal Fighting!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 25 2009 10:06 GMT
#740
Ok ok guys. The point is that we were expecting an epic game and got shit instead. Now calm will own pure.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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