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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#681
LOL at everyone who's so enraged??! I'm not a fan of either players so I'm not too bothered. It was OBVIOUSLY the thing to do when you're up a game and have the liberty to "throw a game away by taking a gamble."

Sorry for the people who got their xmas ruined, but the best is still to come... xp

Gogo Stork and Movie!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#682
Why Flash's strategy was cheese:
If Jaedong built some pool first build order to prevent Flash from bunker rushing, Flash would be wayyyy behind economically

true story
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#683
Cute booth girls, gotta love the outfit!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#684
On December 25 2009 19:00 RisingTide wrote:
If JD had attacked SCVs with his lings/drones instead of the bunker, he would have repelled that...

i'm sure flash would've microed those scvs...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#685
On December 25 2009 18:57 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:56 sleeepy wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


Cheese implies that the player doing it would be dead/nearly dead if it failed. Please explain how Flash would have been dead/nearly dead if JD saw the rax and held off the rush?

Non stop Marine production (which implies little SCV production), sent all Marines to JD's base, sent 4 SCVs to JD's base, no logical continuation from Flash (if he put up a factory, then it'd be a different story).

It was a full on cheese.


As much as I like you for streaming thats just wrong. Flash killed the overlord and knew he was ahead and the rush would work, if it by any chance would not have worked, he would stop marine production and send the scvs back and still have an advantage..
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:02:40
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#686
No offense to JD fans but if JD had won the first game he wouldn't be in a position where he could lose to a single bunker rush :/. Blame his bad play in the first game, not the cheese in the second. When you're up 1-0 in a Bo3, why not cheese and go for the kill? Especially when you haven't bunker rushed in an important game in like 2 years.... -_-
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#687
On December 25 2009 19:00 Malinor wrote:

On another note, I believe it was 7rax.


7 at most, I saw 7/x while the rax was building.
DefectiveGnome
Profile Joined November 2008
45 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#688
TL: wtf. nr 20 min, newb
mogg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
59 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#689
On December 25 2009 18:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:57 kuku8 wrote:
JD pool 4 - GENIOUS. Flash - barrak 6 - OMG CHEESY NEWBIE.


When JD 4 pooled fantasy it was revenge, so it was acceptable :<


an stx fan not remembering when JD 4 pooled hwasin in MSL!?
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#690
On December 25 2009 18:57 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:55 o3.power91 wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Flash hasn't cheesed in like 20 games, ridiculous how many people are hating on him instead of JD for not scouting with a drone or cancelling his hatch. there was NO WAY he could defend this with a dead overlord

Flash hasn't played many players better than him in a while so there was no need to cheese. He seems to like cheesing better players...

that's just bullshit. he has played plenty, plenty of very good players. he hasn't cheesed in...as long as i can remember?

i predicted a flash win either way, based on the brutal raping he gave to JAEDONG. he's even more dangerous now that zergs are reminded flash can do things other than FE opening.


He got the point. He hasn't played many players better than him because there are none at the moment

Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#691
Well I guess this match shows who is smarter, and the answer is clearly flash.

[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#692
34 pages on that lil wiener dog game

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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#693
lol this thread is hilarious
HEY MEYT
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#694
On December 25 2009 19:00 zOula... wrote:
Not sure why everyones so upset...we got to see a straight up game in game 1...and it's pretty obvious how that went.


A straight up game on a heavily Terran map...So no, not really a straight up game :\
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#695
On December 25 2009 19:00 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Are people seriously arguing that a proxy 8 rax, followed by a bunker with pulled SCVs is not cheese?

Am i the only one who actually counted when the observers showed Flash's mieralilines and pointed out every single one of those 6 scvs?

all 6 of those scvs + the one building + the one on the barracks

Yeah I was about to say. lol
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#696
This is very reminiscent of when Flash won the OSL vs Stork after beating stork 3-2 in GSI finals. Stork was preparing for late game and counters to the Flash build, and Flash 3-0ed him with three under 15 min games. Very similar tactic here. First game heavy macro/ mass aggression, followed by totally unexpected cheese. GREAT mindgame and nice to see flash back in the mindgames.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#697
This is exactly what Flash needs to win individual league.

He can't just stick to one tactic, however solid it is. Because being predictable puts him into a disadvantage before the game even starts. Especially when he faces tough opponents (like Jaedong), keep playing standard like his previous 10 games is no different to saying "Hey this is what I'm gonna do, try to beat it" to someone who is equal to his level of skills.

You guys may be disappointed because he did not deliver a 1-hour TvZ epicness. But you have to understand that he is playing to win the OSL as well, not just to satisfy his fans. And winning the OSL would definitely make more fans happy than playing an awesome game then losing the whole tournament.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#698
Petition to make these the official uniforms for booth girls?
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
December 25 2009 10:02 GMT
#699
On December 25 2009 19:00 zOula... wrote:
Not sure why everyones so upset...we got to see a straight up game in game 1...and it's pretty obvious how that went.

yes, because everyone was really hyped to see two top players play a 10 min game with tier 1 units
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:04:18
December 25 2009 10:03 GMT
#700
On December 25 2009 19:00 n.DieJokes wrote:
That game was garbage, I don't understand how anyone can be happy with those games. This was FlaSh vs fucking Jaedong; not two random gosu's but the two best players in the entire world and it was ended in bullshit cheese. Anyone who thinks this was a good result is an idiot, this is not what JD vs FlaSh should be, you've been robbed. The possibility of an amazing series was dangled in front of you and instead you got this steamy mound; if this really was satisfying for you, you're missing the point of FlaSh vs Jaedong
I think you're too blinded by fanboyism to appreciate what actually went on here today.
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