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On December 25 2009 18:55 o3.power91 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 18:53 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: Flash hasn't cheesed in like 20 games, ridiculous how many people are hating on him instead of JD for not scouting with a drone or cancelling his hatch. there was NO WAY he could defend this with a dead overlord Flash hasn't played many players better than him in a while so there was no need to cheese. He seems to like cheesing better players...
Jaedong isn't better than Flash. In fact, he's light-years away from being as good as Flash atm.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Ahhhh, all is right in the world. This shit is so ownage. I find the rage posts entertaining. Flash raped JD straight up game 1. And game 2 he prepared something unpredictable like any good player should.
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On December 25 2009 18:56 ItsBigfoot wrote: Boxer bunkers rushes: YEAH, EPIC!, good ol boxer
Flash Bunker Rushes: FUCK YOU YOU FCKING FAGGOT, YOU JUST RUINED CHRISTMAS
no doubles standards at all
Pretty much sums up TL
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I don't care if that wasn't worth waking up for. I'm going back to sleep with a smile on my face. Merry Christmas from Lee Young Ho. He'll be winning the OSL btw
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On December 25 2009 18:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Are people seriously arguing that a proxy 8 rax, followed by a bunker with pulled SCVs is not cheese?
Who cares. It won the game for him.
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this game sooo remembers me of Flash x Bisu, where Bisu was at his top and got a similar rush like that I hated Flash so much at that time =[
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About to buy an air plane ticket to korea to take revenge for jaedong.
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On December 25 2009 18:58 Ikonn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 18:56 ItsBigfoot wrote: Boxer bunkers rushes: YEAH, EPIC!, good ol boxer
Flash Bunker Rushes: FUCK YOU YOU FCKING FAGGOT, YOU JUST RUINED CHRISTMAS
no doubles standards at all Pretty much sums up TL
you have #1 TurN fan in your sig
TurN almost beats Bisu and everyone loves him, Bogus actually beats Bisu and gets no love.
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On December 25 2009 18:58 Avidkeystamper wrote: Are people seriously arguing that a proxy 8 rax, followed by a bunker with pulled SCVs is not cheese? Am i the only one who actually counted when the observers showed Flash's mieral lines and pointed out every single one of those 6 scvs?
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On December 25 2009 18:55 Lebesgue wrote: Flash never cheeses. I was waiting till Flash cheese for once and he finaly did. Mixing cheese with the standard play will only make him that much more dangerous. you're either a troll, retarded, or both.
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On December 25 2009 18:58 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 18:56 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote: @ Jaedong fans:
8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won. Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed. It's not cheese... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196 If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game  seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion! what 8 rax ffs? Learn to count i didn't see what rax it was, but it was rax before supply so regardless, the marine timing was significantly earlier. Point still stands. He lost an overlord because of the changed terran of HBR. Are you arguing that a proxy whatever rax followed by pulled SCVs and a bunker rush is NOT cheese?
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On December 25 2009 18:57 Crunchums wrote: all you people should be raging at the OSL for the fact that Flash vs Jaedong was a quarterfinals matchup. the MSL does not have this problem Disagree. Flash vs Jaedong as a bo5 would be even more of a let down.
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Flash played brilliantly. Soooooooooo glad to see him bring it back.
Can't believe all the people that are complaining (well I understand but still).
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On December 25 2009 18:57 Avidkeystamper wrote: Cheese means it doesn't work if you know it's coming beforehand. JD only knew it too late, after losing an ovie.
Ummm... So if I 5fac timing push you in TvP and you don't scout it it's cheese? Ok...
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based on the way the game went, i am pretty sure flash only pulled the scvs AFTER he realized he would kill the ovie. from there, the bunker rush was far from all-in (he couldve pulled way more scvs). even if the bunker rush failed, he could still play on relatively equal ground
flash won with "cheese," but he wasnt just relying on luck. jaedong fucked up and he capitalized
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LoL at people taking sides, I'm just choked that after a match I'm sure a ton of people have been getting pumped over for a week now that it all ended so fast. I was hoping for a half hour game not a half hour match.
Flash: Your baracks placement was killer sweet, I wonder how long you practiced that perhaps instead you could give 2 games like the first instead of just one. Jaedong: You got me a 12 hatch vrs flash for christmas you tool, I'm getting you fucking socks or something.
The play was great the match was just too short so its just an excuse (ie: Cheese or cocky 12 hatch) ridden let-down
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On December 25 2009 18:57 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 18:54 3nickma wrote: Fuck Flash! Chessing n00b Terran...
So people said Ruby was the better player becuase FireFirst cheesed him out? Well then JD must be the superior player over Flash since he tries that shit. Goddanmit...
A BO5 would've been much better for the overall performance and results. But that's life. What Bo5? Jaedong would went down 3:0. He got steam-rolled 1st game and almost cried after it. Today he got demolished again. You really think he would win 3:2? I doubt it.
ask fantasy what happens when ur up 2 games against jaedong
it's jaedong's fault for going 12 hatch not expecting ppl to cheese him. why would anyone try to play jaedong straight up 3 straight games. better to mix up ur strats.
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Oh yeah, let's discuss if 8rax 4-5 SCV and fullout devotion to the bunker rush is NOT a cheese or if it is... Just to justify the play. Why is there a need to justify it anyways? Cheese is a part of SC and mindgames.
It was a really strong stratecial play from flash, and I'm quite certain that he read JDs interview from the PL, where he said he'll show everyone what he had practiced and prepared for in this MU and just decided to deny it. Very sad for SC fans, but ye.. Cant say anything but good job Flash, but that was fucking sad...
I hate people who defend fullout devoted bunker rushes as to not beeing cheese btw, it's like saying cannon rushing is not cheese. Everytime a zerg defends it he is almost always ahead by quite abit even though loosing alot of drones.
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