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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#601
Jaedong knew exactly what was coming, he had plenty of time to prepare and counter, and it was so close that bunker fell!! I dont get it why people get mad at Flash for cheesing???
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#602
On December 25 2009 18:54 3nickma wrote:
Fuck Flash! Chessing n00b Terran...

So people said Ruby was the better player becuase FireFirst cheesed him out? Well then JD must be the superior player over Flash since he tries that shit. Goddanmit...

A BO5 would've been much better for the overall performance and results. But that's life.


Flash dominated Jaedong the first game (straight up) and I don't see why you cry about cheese here. Its an agressive opening just like 9 pool, but its no cheese at all. Maybe you should stop complaining if you don't understand the game..

Seriously makes me mad if people / fanboys trashtalk someone for no reason. It wasn't even a dual 8. It was BARELY a proxy rax.. so
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#603
Play to win. 8 rax isnt cheese anyways. 12 hatching on a 2 player map is always going to carry that inherent risk. maybe we'll see more 12 pool from JD from now on.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 09:57:06
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#604
On December 25 2009 18:55 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:53 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Flash hasn't cheesed in like 20 games, ridiculous how many people are hating on him instead of JD for not scouting with a drone or cancelling his hatch. there was NO WAY he could defend this with a dead overlord

Flash hasn't played many players better than him in a while so there was no need to cheese. He seems to like cheesing better players...



Cheesing isn't illegal, I think it was a brilliant built, and going into late against someone like Jaedong isn't always wise.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#605
On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


It's not cheese...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196
If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion!


exactly, after losing the OL, JD knew the rines were coming, and should infer that SCVs would follow now that flash
1) killed the OL
2) knew JD went 12 hatch

and he STILL didn't cancel the hatch rofl
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#606
What a let down... The only thing that can cheer me up now is if Movie or Pure hurt your wrist so that Bisu can qualify to take a spot.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#607
On December 25 2009 18:56 Goragoth wrote:
Since when is a bunker rush with four fucking SCVs not cheese? Of course its cheese. God I hope Stork makes it to the final and rapes Flash 3-0.

Someone needs to go check Stork vs Flash finals records....
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#608
On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


It's not cheese...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196
If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion!

what 8 rax ffs? Learn to count
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#609
On December 25 2009 18:55 Mystlord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:53 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Flash hasn't cheesed in like 20 games, ridiculous how many people are hating on him instead of JD for not scouting with a drone or cancelling his hatch. there was NO WAY he could defend this with a dead overlord

So the man doesn't cheese against scrubs like Pure and hero, but then we get to the most hyped series of all time and he cheeses? Fuck that man. I want a refund. Give me back my freaking epic ZvT.

Oh come on... watch Flash vs Jaedong game 1 and compare that to Flash vs Zero game 1. Which was better? (ill give you a clue, Zero vs Flash was). Jaedong was not up to par to take on Flash - this series was ALWAYS going to disappoint since Jaedong would never be able to bring it to Flash. Hell, I don't even think Jaedong has the best ZvT anymore.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#610
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Damian
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany335 Posts
December 25 2009 09:56 GMT
#611
omg, the jd fanboy rage is so funny to read :D
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#612
flash finally figured out to not macro macro macro every game

now he'll win leagues.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#613
ITS ALL ABOUT STORK/SHINE NOW
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#614
On December 25 2009 18:54 3nickma wrote:
Fuck Flash! Chessing n00b Terran...

So people said Ruby was the better player becuase FireFirst cheesed him out? Well then JD must be the superior player over Flash since he tries that shit. Goddanmit...

A BO5 would've been much better for the overall performance and results. But that's life.


What Bo5?
Jaedong would went down 3:0. He got steam-rolled 1st game and almost cried after it. Today he got demolished again. You really think he would win 3:2? I doubt it.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#615
FUCK U FLASH U WON WITHOUT DOING A SINGLE THING
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#616
530apm ain't going to help you JD.
kuku8
Profile Joined December 2009
Afghanistan6 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#617
JD pool 4 - GENIOUS. Flash - barrak 6 - OMG CHEESY NEWBIE.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#618
On December 25 2009 18:56 ItsBigfoot wrote:
Boxer bunkers rushes: YEAH, EPIC!, good ol boxer


No, fuck Boxer, I never liked him after that.
TranslatorBaa!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#619
On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


It's not cheese...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196
If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion!

He lost an ovie, nothing he could do with HBR's new terrain.
On December 25 2009 18:56 sleeepy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


Cheese implies that the player doing it would be dead/nearly dead if it failed. Please explain how Flash would have been dead/nearly dead if JD saw the rax and held off the rush?

Cheese means it doesn't work if you know it's coming beforehand. JD only knew it too late, after losing an ovie.
Jaedong
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
December 25 2009 09:57 GMT
#620
On December 25 2009 18:52 R A V wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:49 samachking wrote:
Fuck you Flash you just gained a new antifan


+1

I knew he was gunna cheese too.
I just don't know why JD didn't think so as well and go a pool first build
:|

So... You knew that it is THE best choice to cheese on THIS map with SUCH an advantage and you became his antifan because he played smart? LOOOOOOOLLLLL!


I'm sad/disappointed that this series failed to the hype but at the same time i'm happy for Flash.
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