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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#661
On December 25 2009 18:54 ErOs_LeO wrote:
Merry Christmas JD LOL

LOL Yes
Jae
Power is your Intelligence
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#662
Not sure why everyones so upset...we got to see a straight up game in game 1...and it's pretty obvious how that went.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#663
On December 25 2009 18:57 o3.power91 wrote:

i said Flash likes to cheese better players. I didn't say Flash ALWAYS cheeses better players.


What I meant to say is how can you say JD is the better player after getting DESTROYED in a straight up game one. Also, if he is better, he had plenty of time to cancel the hatch and go into the game with a late expo. Apparently he figured he couldn't win with a 1base start, which implies he doesn't feel superior to Flash in any way.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#664
On December 25 2009 18:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Are people seriously arguing that a proxy 8 rax, followed by a bunker with pulled SCVs is not cheese?

Am i the only one who actually counted when the observers showed Flash's mieralilines and pointed out every single one of those 6 scvs?

all 6 of those scvs + the one building + the one on the barracks
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 10:01:55
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#665
On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


It's not cheese...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196
If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion!


What a load of bullshit. Of course JD knew what was coming by then.

It was just really really well played and executed by Flash. There was nothing JD could do. Great game plan by Flash. He of course knew he would catch the Overlord.

It was really good.

On another note, I believe it was 7rax.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#666
rofl wow
I was going to go to sleep after flash/jd but guess I'm staying up.
Beer isn't even finished.
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Xinliben
Profile Joined May 2009
United States931 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#667
I love you TL, reading the posts here has already brightened my day.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#668
On December 25 2009 18:59 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:55 Lebesgue wrote:
Flash never cheeses. I was waiting till Flash cheese for once and he finaly did. Mixing cheese with the standard play will only make him that much more dangerous.

you're either a troll, retarded, or both.

are you a retarded troll?

what lebesgue said is true. the commentators were saying the same thing the entire time as well.
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#669
On December 25 2009 19:00 zOula... wrote:
Not sure why everyones so upset...we got to see a straight up game in game 1...and it's pretty obvious how that went.


+1
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#670
That game was garbage, I don't understand how anyone can be happy with those games. This was FlaSh vs fucking Jaedong; not two random gosu's but the two best players in the entire world and it was ended in bullshit cheese. Anyone who thinks this was a good result is an idiot, this is not what JD vs FlaSh should be, you've been robbed. The possibility of an amazing series was dangled in front of you and instead you got this steamy mound; if this really was satisfying for you, you're missing the point of FlaSh vs Jaedong
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#671
On December 25 2009 18:57 kuku8 wrote:
JD pool 4 - GENIOUS. Flash - barrak 6 - OMG CHEESY NEWBIE.


Haha, yeah, exactly.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#672
Wow, I had no idea that 12-hatch, the most standard build in ZvT, was a "greedy" build -_-
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RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
December 25 2009 10:00 GMT
#673
If JD had attacked SCVs with his lings/drones instead of the bunker, he would have repelled that...
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#674
CRY JD FANS, CRY
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#675
On December 25 2009 18:51 ArvickHero wrote:
fucking hell I love Flash but.. that was fucking gay, talk about a lack of showmanship.

Would you have said that if Boxer cheesed Jaedong out?
May the BeSt man win.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#676
On December 25 2009 18:59 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:58 Ikonn wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:56 ItsBigfoot wrote:
Boxer bunkers rushes: YEAH, EPIC!, good ol boxer

Flash Bunker Rushes: FUCK YOU YOU FCKING FAGGOT, YOU JUST RUINED CHRISTMAS

no doubles standards at all


Pretty much sums up TL


you have #1 TurN fan in your sig

TurN almost beats Bisu and everyone loves him, Bogus actually beats Bisu and gets no love.


Indeed. I was cheering for Bogus in that game vs Bisu btw.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#677
On December 25 2009 18:59 sleeepy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Cheese means it doesn't work if you know it's coming beforehand. JD only knew it too late, after losing an ovie.


Ummm... So if I 5fac timing push you in TvP and you don't scout it it's cheese? Ok...

No, it means that if you hypothetically told me your BO before the game, and that BO has almost no chance of working against a similarly skilled opponent, it would fail. Those if I knew you would 5 fact beforehand, then it would never work on similar skill levels.
Jaedong
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#678
Meanwhile, people always seem to forget about Calm. Reigning MSL champ and quietly carving his way through this OSL. Could be a real darkhorse.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#679
On December 25 2009 18:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:58 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Are people seriously arguing that a proxy 8 rax, followed by a bunker with pulled SCVs is not cheese?

Am i the only one who actually counted when the observers showed Flash's mieral lines and pointed out every single one of those 6 scvs?


Yea it was a 6 rax. If it were an 8 rax, the overlord would've had time to get to the safe spot.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 25 2009 10:01 GMT
#680
On December 25 2009 18:59 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 18:58 Plexa wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:56 Geo.Rion wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:55 Plexa wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:54 Cambium wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:53 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 25 2009 18:51 sleeepy wrote:
@ Jaedong fans:

8 rax isn't cheese. It wasn't even that much of a proxy, just a forward rax outside the normal ovie scouting pattern. Plus, Jaedong scouted it anyways, he should have reacted better. Flash played better and that's why he won.

Jaedong scouted the fucking marine that killed the overlord. Not the fucking cheese, and yes this is a fucking cheese. I'm not even a jaedong fan and i'm disappointed.


It's not cheese...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108196
If Jaedong didn't realise that the timing of the marine was that of an 8rax he deserves to lose that game seeing that marine gave jaedong all the information he needed. Jaedong fucked up, Flash didnt. End of discussion!

what 8 rax ffs? Learn to count
i didn't see what rax it was, but it was rax before supply so regardless, the marine timing was significantly earlier. Point still stands.

He lost an overlord because of the changed terran of HBR. Are you arguing that a proxy whatever rax followed by pulled SCVs and a bunker rush is NOT cheese?
No I'm arguing that Jaedong should have known what was coming rofl of course it was cheese but it's not like Jaedong didn't have sufficient information to know the cheese was coming. He should have cancelled the hatch at the very least.
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