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Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
December 06 2009 04:34 GMT
#201
So pumped for savior vs flash. Please be epic
Better than Pokebunny
Deux
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States159 Posts
December 06 2009 04:34 GMT
#202
Really fun to watch. Part of me is always sad to see protoss lose but I do like the fantasy points
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
December 06 2009 04:34 GMT
#203
Violet played as well as he could. Match Point i imagine is imba zvp. the bases are so far apart for toss to effectively defend while zerg can hold off with lurkers which effort did. maybe if violet did get observer faster or things like that he could have put more pressure but it was hard for him to do things like expand to more bases and attack one area of the map without risking his own bases.
ftw
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 06 2009 04:36 GMT
#204
On December 06 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 13:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:27 MuffinDude wrote:
violet is playing too passive and allowing effort to just attack him everywher


You can't be aggressive at all with this ling build. Especially when defilers are out. Effort can be pretty much anywhere at any time, especially with drop researched.

Before effort got his lings and shit, violet should of pressed his army size advantage, he could of traded one base for two but he didn't

He didn't have the goon count to kill the lurkers. The simcities would have driven him off. The best choice was what he did, to keep his bases alive. It was a very almost game - had his first reaver popped out slightly earlier, had he kept his sairs alive a bit better, etc. Really, I think he should have split up his army a bit more, the giant ball is good when pushing out, but Effort's build relied on avoiding direct confrontation until swarm.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
December 06 2009 04:36 GMT
#205
Violet just didn't seem on top of things. It looked like he wasn't aware of most of units at any given time, forgetting about a lot of templars and such, and didn't multitask effectively.

Oh well, kind of disappointing.
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia936 Posts
December 06 2009 04:37 GMT
#206
On December 06 2009 13:36 SimonB wrote:
Violet just didn't seem on top of things. It looked like he wasn't aware of most of units at any given time, forgetting about a lot of templars and such, and didn't multitask effectively.

Oh well, kind of disappointing.

It looked more like zomg storming and intercepting most of the attacks.
Too bad vs what effort did you slip up once, you die.
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 04:40:24
December 06 2009 04:39 GMT
#207
On December 06 2009 13:36 SimonB wrote:
Violet just didn't seem on top of things. It looked like he wasn't aware of most of units at any given time, forgetting about a lot of templars and such, and didn't multitask effectively.

Oh well, kind of disappointing.


Didn't seem on top of things? Did you see his storming? I'd say he did admirably well against Effort's constant waves of attacks, however, he just didn't have the economy to cope near the end.
#1 Flash Fan
sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
December 06 2009 04:41 GMT
#208
is the next match happening soon or what?
Hi Mom
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
December 06 2009 04:42 GMT
#209
In the op, there are not an equal amount of Left-facing faces and Right-facing faces.

I'm going to watch oz vs sktt1 now, where the op has no faces.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 06 2009 04:42 GMT
#210
The maelstrom muta play was almost brilliant, if he didn't have all of his probes right underneath the mutas...
more weight
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
December 06 2009 04:42 GMT
#211
LOL Flash looks bored
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 06 2009 04:42 GMT
#212
On December 06 2009 13:36 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:27 MuffinDude wrote:
violet is playing too passive and allowing effort to just attack him everywher


You can't be aggressive at all with this ling build. Especially when defilers are out. Effort can be pretty much anywhere at any time, especially with drop researched.

Before effort got his lings and shit, violet should of pressed his army size advantage, he could of traded one base for two but he didn't

He didn't have the goon count to kill the lurkers. The simcities would have driven him off. The best choice was what he did, to keep his bases alive. It was a very almost game - had his first reaver popped out slightly earlier, had he kept his sairs alive a bit better, etc. Really, I think he should have split up his army a bit more, the giant ball is good when pushing out, but Effort's build relied on avoiding direct confrontation until swarm.

i dunno, violet had enough templars for the lurkers and effort had a small army since he split his forces.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia936 Posts
December 06 2009 04:42 GMT
#213
I think it all came down to him losing the 4th (woot first reav dying TT) and sending his whole force to kill latest effort's expansion. If he sent a zeal force (which'd die but do the job) and leave rest at home watching for that big drop, game'd be in his hands.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 04:43 GMT
#214
Flash is looking like "Let me roll this scrub and win already."
Jaedong
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
December 06 2009 04:43 GMT
#215
Go Flash!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 04:45:33
December 06 2009 04:44 GMT
#216
On December 06 2009 13:42 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 13:36 Nevuk wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:27 MuffinDude wrote:
violet is playing too passive and allowing effort to just attack him everywher


You can't be aggressive at all with this ling build. Especially when defilers are out. Effort can be pretty much anywhere at any time, especially with drop researched.

Before effort got his lings and shit, violet should of pressed his army size advantage, he could of traded one base for two but he didn't

He didn't have the goon count to kill the lurkers. The simcities would have driven him off. The best choice was what he did, to keep his bases alive. It was a very almost game - had his first reaver popped out slightly earlier, had he kept his sairs alive a bit better, etc. Really, I think he should have split up his army a bit more, the giant ball is good when pushing out, but Effort's build relied on avoiding direct confrontation until swarm.

i dunno, violet had enough templars for the lurkers and effort had a small army since he split his forces.

Violet ran around killing tons and tons of lings with his early army, this was a great choice. Trying for one of the bases would've thrown away his army for almost no gain, while killing all the lings meant it was very hard for effort to kill that min-only expansion.

On December 06 2009 13:42 Soulforged wrote:
I think it all came down to him losing the 4th (woot first reav dying TT) and sending his whole force to kill latest effort's expansion. If he sent a zeal force (which'd die but do the job) and leave rest at home watching for that big drop, game'd be in his hands.

Storming his own probes hurt him as well, even though the saturation wasn't really THAT high on it. But yeah, that first reaver . The forge block at the fourth was epic.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 04:46:12
December 06 2009 04:44 GMT
#217
Mabonjwa at 2, scouting correctly at 5 against Cheese Terran.

12 hatch vs 1rax expand.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 06 2009 04:45 GMT
#218
Woah, Flash scouted before barracks. Correctly, it turns out.
Jaedong
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7828 Posts
December 06 2009 04:46 GMT
#219
Insane savior drone micro lol
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
December 06 2009 04:47 GMT
#220
On December 06 2009 13:44 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2009 13:42 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:36 Nevuk wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:30 RoieTRS wrote:
On December 06 2009 13:27 MuffinDude wrote:
violet is playing too passive and allowing effort to just attack him everywher


You can't be aggressive at all with this ling build. Especially when defilers are out. Effort can be pretty much anywhere at any time, especially with drop researched.

Before effort got his lings and shit, violet should of pressed his army size advantage, he could of traded one base for two but he didn't

He didn't have the goon count to kill the lurkers. The simcities would have driven him off. The best choice was what he did, to keep his bases alive. It was a very almost game - had his first reaver popped out slightly earlier, had he kept his sairs alive a bit better, etc. Really, I think he should have split up his army a bit more, the giant ball is good when pushing out, but Effort's build relied on avoiding direct confrontation until swarm.

i dunno, violet had enough templars for the lurkers and effort had a small army since he split his forces.

Violet ran around killing tons and tons of lings with his early army, this was a great choice. Trying for one of the bases would've thrown away his army for almost no gain, while killing all the lings meant it was very hard for effort to kill that min-only expansion.

He had a bigger army size, he could of taken 6 lots to top left and taken that expansion out while split his army to his different expansions to protect them. What violet did was instead move his whole army to expansions under fire, it took too much time and the lings did too much damage by the time violet's army got there. Violet was too passive, in pvz these days, p should constantly harass z so that z can't do shit like what effort did to violet.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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