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We ran the numbers, cranked some math, and the following (un)lucky people were randomly selected from the pool of brave volunteers (no particular order):
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) ProtossStormtemplar97 D DarthThienAn D+/C- ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) ZergJegsUger C Boom_Jinx D+ Sookyung C- ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) Terran:NeverbeenBorn C- TSL-Princess C+
The reserves, in order, are:
+ Show Spoiler +- TSL-Kerotan D+
- Dethrawr D+
- MisclickED D+
- DragoonPK[TSL] D+/C-
- HuntingX D+/C-
- [TSL]ToN D+
- Ms2zerg C
To all who didn't make it, we'll get people from the channel if all the above fail to show, so just be there (and if you can't okay just sit back and watch, and be sure to enlist again next time  )
Onto the polls! Map submissions were a bit of a disappointment 
+ Show Spoiler [MAPS] +Note: Crystalized is a map made by our own Grobyc! Can be found here. Will only be used if he provides an obs version in time! ;o Poll: Map?( Vote): Heartbreak Ridge ( Vote): Python ( Vote): Lost Temple ( Vote): Destination ( Vote): Crystalized
Looks like a lot of people wanted to see No Siege. So cruel... >_>
+ Show Spoiler [HANDICAPS] +Poll: Handicap?( Vote): No Lift off ( Vote): Impotency (No Siege) ( Vote): Max 1 Vessel ( Vote): No Cloak ( Vote): No Bunkers ( Vote): Fail Placement (Offcentre CCs)
That's it for now, cya on Saturday
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HE DOESNT NEED SIEGE TO COUNTER 14CC
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He doesn't need it against konadora build either...
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konadora
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LOL NO SIEGE vsT and vsP is gonna be hilarious to watch
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konadora build always results in BO loss =)
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aaah the legendary wall off with a CC build
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I'll have the obs version in 30 mins!
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Woulda been more useful to show terran walls (although those are simpler and easier to see). :D
I'm nervous for this ><
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Ahhh yes I totally forgot about TvP walls. I'll make sure something works and update it if it doesnt.
and last time I saw your post count it was like 1800 lol. spammer!
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I have like 100 posts this week... you jumped from like 2k to 4k without me noticing a while ago <_< doubt you've been actively on TL longer than me, you spammer!
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bah, i registered before you even! you're just slow on these things hehe
my posts per week are pretty steady. only time it was different was in the summer because I didn't have school 
Anyways, TvP wall-ins up as well.
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Wehay, I made reserve player, and Number one reserve too, I feel like I've finally achieved in life.
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no siege vs hydralurk = gg.
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no lift + LT !! yeah
Hope this series will be good.
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Great map Grobyc, those wall-ins are very useful...
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On December 03 2009 15:49 Kerotan wrote:
Wehay, I made reserve player, and Number one reserve too, I feel like I've finally achieved in life.
congratulations good sir
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On December 03 2009 23:11 dangots0ul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 15:49 Kerotan wrote:
Wehay, I made reserve player, and Number one reserve too, I feel like I've finally achieved in life. congratulations good sir
i hate u kerotan! its my birthday on december5th and u got picked!!! booooh-urns! gl mate.
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Ok so add two new wide ramps to the high ground, and remove those crystalist so it become's open'd up, But if you dont want to have it completely opened all game, then add a mineral line to where the crystals used to be, each mineral having about 32 minerals per Field. This way that location will become more useable later on for flanks in very sticky predicaments that look like its gg for you. You can secretly set up flanks and still come back with this new look. Maybe im wrong, but try it! i cant create it, it always tells me error. So if u could do that, ill dl and try it for sure.
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Fail placement is just mean...
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On December 04 2009 00:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Fail placement is just mean...
Waaay less mean than no siege lol
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`What time does this start? I cant find it anywhere in the post
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It's in the News post on the front page. (22 CET, 16 EST, 13 PST on December 5th.)
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So tonight is the night ladies and gentlemen! Good Luck!
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one last bump!
did final revisions on crystalized. you can get the latest obs and melee download as well as wall in pictures and info from the maps page(link pholon put in OP), or from my post on the first page(13th reply or so i think)
edit: please save it for on demand pholon! I will be at work, and won't be able to watch it live myself
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Oh. My. God. I get to play with live audience!!! God i hope i dont mess upp
By the way its Boom.Jinx, so you wont whisper to the wrong person later ^^
Also, Chrystalised looks pretty sweet.
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Boohoo, i would have liked to play Nyoken, GL to the contestants though. Im also a little bit bummed out about the fact that you didn't include Isaac Newton in the map poll. Regardless i'm looking forward to the show.
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On December 03 2009 08:38 Pholon wrote:We ran the numbers, cranked some math, and the following (un)lucky people were randomly selected from the pool of brave volunteers (no particular order): ProtossStormtemplar97 D DarthThienAn D+/C- ZergJegsUger C Boom_Jinx D+ Sookyung C- Terran:NeverbeenBorn C- TSL-Princess C+ The reserves, in order, are: + Show Spoiler +- TSL-Kerotan D+
- Dethrawr D+
- MisclickED D+
- DragoonPK[TSL] D+/C-
- HuntingX D+/C-
- [TSL]ToN D+
- Ms2zerg C
To all who didn't make it, we'll get people from the channel if all the above fail to show, so just be there (and if you can't okay just sit back and watch, and be sure to enlist again next time ) Onto the polls! Map submissions were a bit of a disappointment + Show Spoiler [MAPS] +Note: Crystalized is a map made by our own Grobyc! Can be found here. Will only be used if he provides an obs version in time! ;o Poll: Map?( Vote): Heartbreak Ridge ( Vote): Python ( Vote): Lost Temple ( Vote): Destination ( Vote): Crystalized Looks like a lot of people wanted to see No Siege. So cruel... >_> + Show Spoiler [HANDICAPS] +Poll: Handicap?( Vote): No Lift off ( Vote): Impotency (No Siege) ( Vote): Max 1 Vessel ( Vote): No Cloak ( Vote): No Bunkers ( Vote): Fail Placement (Offcentre CCs) Note: Off-centre CCs is only for expanding CCs HELP I promised I'd look into installing the CPU Ally this time! I've really tried but I'm unable to remove the protection from the downloadable maps (both TLPD and ICC). I think I can do the programming myself, but I'd really really like some help. PM me if you can do this and want to help! That's it for now, cya on Saturday
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should be good i`m sick so i`m going to curl up in my bed and watch
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I do like this idea and it's fun but personally I think that those handicaps are nowhere CLOSE to harsh enough to give any D - C- player a chance vs an A- player. I don't know if the goal is to make it close, or just to make it less of a rape, or what, but it should be something more like "cannot attack before 7 minutes and can never have more than 100 pop." I'd still expect the A- to rape the D+ with that handicap, though.
No siege doesn't mean squat in an A- vs D+ TvP, or a TvZ.
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Hey everyone,
Thanks for hanging in there, but we're going to have to push this back at least and hour due to technical issues. We're talking to admins now, but the calender likely will not be updated.
Thanks,
LeperKahn
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Unfortunate... hopefully everything gets worked out
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GO NYOKEN!
Edit: Sent you a PM Khan. If you guys need a video/audio streamer for Skype and/or Vent. I can do it. I'm not offering to cast because you already have some.
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Damn that sucks. I hope I can still be tuned in then, good luck on fixing this guys.
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Dear Teamliquidans,
I'm sorry to have to announce that there will not be a TL Arena tonight Unfortunately, there were some serious Livestream issues that we could not resolve. We promise to work on getting this Episode underway as soon as possible, and would like to offer our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience this may have caused everyone.
-Pholon & Team Arena
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Ah, too bad, Hope it gets rescheduled soon
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Dude. I can do this right now. I'm all set up. I mean, it's not like I have to use this shit almost every day or anything. If you guys have a working mic via skype or vent I can broadcast your audio along with the video. I'm not offering to take your jobs "casting" I am just offering to help.
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On December 06 2009 07:13 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Dude. I can do this right now. I'm all set up. I mean, it's not like I have to use this shit almost every day or anything. If you guys have a working mic via skype or vent I can broadcast your audio along with the video. I'm not offering to take your jobs "casting" I am just offering to help.
Wouldn't this be worth trying atleast, pwetty pwease I really wanna see this.
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edit: aww
if you want, you can use my livestream Pholon. It;s verified as well. I don't know what kind of technical issues you are referring to, but feel free.
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There is 0 chance of it happening today. We're disassembled now.
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Any chance of hearing exactly what the problem was?
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it is still going to happen another day though, right?
edit: lol typo
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On December 06 2009 07:29 Grobyc wrote:it is still going to happy another day though, right?
yes it will be rescheduled. no date as of now
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
WHY!? WHYYY IT HAD TO BE YOU!?!??? (((((((
On a serious note: what kind of stream problems are you having ?
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On December 06 2009 07:48 ProoM wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! WHY!? WHYYY IT HAD TO BE YOU!?!??? ((((((( On a serious note: what kind of stream problems are you having ?
None of the livestreams receive our stream. Streaming as normal, the page can either not be accessed or the stream just doesn't show.
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Oh and hey i just hit C- so if you could change boom.jinx from D+ to C- that would be aaaaaawesome.
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I was really gonna own nyoken.
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no siege mode
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On December 08 2009 08:25 Zurles wrote:
I was really gonna own nyoken.
No.. no you weren't
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Letting the team down, Pholon. It would have run smooth if you chose more Aussies to play.
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bumpity
We're back on track!Once more we offer our sincerest apologies for having to cancel the show on the 5th of December. However, we have of course been working on a re-schedule and the time at which TL Arena 3 will take place is December 19th, 22:00 CET, 16:00 EST, 13:00 PSTI'm pming all the contestants and updates on whether they can still play will follow shortly. Also, with the ICCUP reset coming soon we might hold this event on US West. The polls are still open and keep an eye on that topic for more news.
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On December 06 2009 07:50 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2009 07:48 ProoM wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! WHY!? WHYYY IT HAD TO BE YOU!?!??? ((((((( On a serious note: what kind of stream problems are you having ? None of the livestreams receive our stream. Streaming as normal, the page can either not be accessed or the stream just doesn't show.
livestream is screwing up lately
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people-are-just-gonna-look-at-konas-post-on-the-new-page-and-ignore-the-rest-bumpity
We're back on track!Once more we offer our sincerest apologies for having to cancel the show on the 5th of December. However, we have of course been working on a re-schedule and the time at which TL Arena 3 will take place is December 19th, 22:00 CET, 16:00 EST, 13:00 PSTI'm pming all the contestants and updates on whether they can still play will follow shortly. Also, with the ICCUP reset coming soon we might hold this event on US West. The polls are still open and keep an eye on that topic for more news.
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yay
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Sounds awesome Pholon, looking forward to it.
Just a thought: You should add the KST time first and foremost, thats what TL seems to run on.
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yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I don't mind casting too if you need a replacement caster as well
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Ahhh...I was waiting for this to pop back up again! Thanks for putting it back on despite all the technical difficulties, and good luck to all the challengers.
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I really need you tonight! Forever's gonna start tonight!
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On December 17 2009 11:54 Alethios wrote:
Sounds awesome Pholon, looking forward to it.
Just a thought: You should add the KST time first and foremost, thats what TL seems to run on.
KST Time is on the Sunday though. And I will bet you anything thre will be people thinking Arena'll be tomorrow their time.
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This is hardly fair for nyoken. He will now have to reveal his no seige builds that he was planning for TSL.
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I'l try and be around for this, but I'm currently sharing one wireless adaptor between 2 PC's :S.
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Arena opens in less than 4 hours! =) I've got one, maybe two, people who can't make it so reserves be sure to standby!
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Gonna be fun to see a terran after two straight tosses!
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Will this be recorded? :O
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Hungary11291 Posts
On December 20 2009 03:40 MyHeroNoob wrote:
Will this be recorded? :O
Quite sure yeah. Should be on livestream "On Demand" shortly after.
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Looking forward to this, hope all goes smoothly this time.
35 mins gogo
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I'm confused as to where this will be streamed... Anyone know? Thanks!
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On December 20 2009 05:33 kingjames01 wrote:
I'm confused as to where this will be streamed... Anyone know? Thanks!
probably tell in op at time
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=) Thanks, that's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure if it was announced in a different thread or something...
So excited!
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Excited
Hope everything goes well.
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Christmas spirit songs, yay! :D
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T__T Stream
Its skipping around and lagging all the time
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poke your a bit louder than most of the other guys, think you could turn yourself down a bit, or could the other guys turn up a bit to even out?
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oO
This zerg is overreacting to nothing at all :/
You only need same amount as sunks as the number of medics or if you want to play safe medic number +1 sunk
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I think this match might be the hardest to win for Nyoken, at least until he has 5-6 handicaps, facing a C zerg without irradiate on Outsider is imba
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On December 20 2009 06:30 samachking wrote:
oO
This zerg is overreacting to nothing at all :/
You only need same amount as sunks as the number of medics or if you want to play safe medic number +1 sunk
Where did you get that number from? I've never heard of that before.
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so if they have 50 marines and no medics, you dont need any sunkens?
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On December 20 2009 06:42 Blind wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2009 06:30 samachking wrote:
oO
This zerg is overreacting to nothing at all :/
You only need same amount as sunks as the number of medics or if you want to play safe medic number +1 sunk Where did you get that number from? I've never heard of that before.
I thought it was a basic rule of thumb when sunk busting(early-midgame) with terran get more medics than sunks inorder to get a healing ratio thats higher than the damage ratio and it makes busting sunks easier. I would love for someone to check it up for me, but this is how I think it works
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nyoken is balling as hell
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max 2 refineries!
Lol, how I love arena
At least he wont have trouble with not having irradiate/emp, because he wont have enough gas for vessels at all:-p
Why is this thread so dead?
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this stream really hates me
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whats the handicap for this game vs neverbeenborn?
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On December 20 2009 07:22 El Resplandor wrote:
whats the handicap for this game vs neverbeenborn?
2 refineries
no more than 4 of any type of production facilities
no Vessel spells?
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well got sound but no video ;x
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Is pokebunny going to keep talking?
Will someone with a more manly voice step in and inform us?
EDIT: Mute ftw
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if only i could. all i'm getting is sound, no video T_T
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On December 20 2009 07:37 thopol wrote:Is pokebunny going to keep talking? Will someone with a more manly voice step in and inform us? EDIT: Mute ftw
Its not his fault he wont ever hit puberty =[
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No liftoff is so lame, especially instead of CPU ally
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On December 20 2009 07:54 538 wrote:No liftoff is so lame, especially instead of CPU ally
I agree. You guys should get that fixed for the next one of these.
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Yeah, tips for organizers:
1: Rig maps if you are going to bother including that handicap.
2: Get a tolerable commentator.
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Maybe its just me but Poke`s commentary seems ok to me.
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No liftoff is pretty bad for TvT. Makes tvp hard on some maps too.
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ok this was a rather lackluster and disappointing game...
Maybe arena should have a minimum rank requirement too?
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what are the handicaps so far?
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On December 20 2009 08:18 DamageControL wrote:
what are the handicaps so far?
- no vessel upgrades
- max 4 production facilities of any kind
- max 1 ebay/armory
- no liftoff
- no scan
- max 2 refineries
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so is this the last game? jesus, D's can't win no matter what
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Needed some harsher handicaps imo.
so many spammers today
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this music has been awsome
you teach me and ill teach you!
pokeeeeeeeemon!
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On December 20 2009 08:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Needed some harsher handicaps imo.
so many spammers today
no, just the players suck too much to capitalize on the handicaps..
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On December 20 2009 08:54 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2009 08:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Needed some harsher handicaps imo.
so many spammers today no, just the players suck too much to capitalize on the handicaps..
yes one or the other..
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Too easy for nyoken! So gud
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Was an awesome event, thanks for all the organizers setting it up.
GZ nyoken on completing the TL arena challenge!
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I think the fodder didn't have to be just bad but rather nervous - maybe casters advising and hero being forced to give vision every few minutes would be a way to go?
oh btw
On December 20 2009 08:58 noth1n wrote:
Was an awesome event, thanks for all the organizers setting it up.
GZ nyoken on completing the TL arena challenge!
I'm going to write a blog to praise you enough u nerds :D
edit hmm results thread is already up...
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On December 20 2009 08:54 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2009 08:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Needed some harsher handicaps imo.
so many spammers today no, just the players suck too much to capitalize on the handicaps..
This makes me think that it might be interesting to have an event where two good, evenly-matched players duke it out in a series of games, with the twist that whenever a player wins a game, he receives a random handicap. That way, the players are good enough to exploit the handicaps, and the games should be competitive.
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disappointing arena 3
dull 2.5~3 hours
all the players sucked way too much
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Not all were that. The first one pretty good(and it was only one handicap). The last one was decentish. Maybe one more, but yeah, I see where you're coming from. No matter how many handicaps there are, it feels like the hero will always 100% rape the D-/D/D+s. Maybe C- to C+ or something would be better? Or would that defy the purpose of TL Arena too much?
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We did a bottom-cap last time and people just don't show up. We had over 60 people enlist this time and it's amazing how many didn't show up (about 40).
Also, it's the idea that these handicaps make the hero so bad the fodder can take him. The fodder is supposed to be bad. If you're gonna complain about anything complain about us not making the handicaps harsh enough.
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On December 20 2009 10:19 Pholon wrote:
We did a bottom-cap last time and people just don't show up. We had over 60 people enlist this time and it's amazing how many didn't show up (about 40).
Also, it's the idea that these handicaps make the hero so bad the fodder can take him. The fodder is supposed to be bad. If you're gonna complain about anything complain about us not making the handicaps harsh enough.
thats what i did!
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