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On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero)
Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better.
-ZerO is a hugely entertaining player.
-Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally.
-type-b was a fluke, they happen.
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On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero)
Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes.
Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. He also might have tried to take his 3rd too quickly, which zergs can punish on heartbreak. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for).
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On October 14 2009 22:09 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes. Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for).
Amazing that you can counter your own points for me.
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On October 14 2009 22:09 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes. Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for).
the templars dont have to die. it was already over. they are forced to use up their storms anyway, which is already a losing proposition.
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On October 14 2009 22:11 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:09 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes. Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for). Amazing that you can counter your own points for me.
What does this even mean?
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On October 14 2009 22:08 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. -ZerO is a hugely entertaining player. -Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally. -type-b was a fluke, they happen.
Yes, you're right. Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are just playing far worse than type-b, Shine, Zero, Yarnc, Calm, and Kwanro. That's why, it has nothing to do with racial imbalance, Kwanro is just a better than both Flash and Bisu combined.
WHAT WAS I THINKING?
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On October 14 2009 22:13 ghostWriter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:11 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:09 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:
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Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha.
You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes. Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for). Amazing that you can counter your own points for me. What does this even mean?
This is too taxing to explain, I'll just say that I think its interesting that you made a point why type-b was not a fluke, then the next sentence you give evidence that it was.
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It's all good though, Pusan's gonna win this OSL.
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hahahaha Bisu. Yet another OSL passes by him again.
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On October 14 2009 22:14 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:08 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:36 JWD wrote:
hay guys, let's look at the upside: now we get to see the unique, popular, and talented Shine[KaL] in the OSL Ro16
YAY Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha. You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. -ZerO is a hugely entertaining player. -Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally. -type-b was a fluke, they happen. Yes, you're right. Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are just playing far worse than type-b, Shine, Zero, Yarnc, Calm, and Kwanro. That's why, it has nothing to do with racial imbalance, Kwanro is just a better than both Flash and Bisu combined. WHAT WAS I THINKING?
Zerg racial imbalance, does that point have any merit at all? You don't even mention the maps, which would make you, at least someone reasonable. I'm not buying that Zerg themselves are overpowered bud.
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On October 14 2009 22:16 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:13 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 22:11 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:09 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:
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yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Yeah, this is what I meant, sorry for mistakes. Bisu actually played pretty well against Shine and if he didn't lose all his templars, he probably could have rolled through shine's army easily. Type-b can't be a fluke, he took out leta who is no slouch at tvz (although he wasn't able to use the 2port wraith that he's known for). Amazing that you can counter your own points for me. What does this even mean? This is too taxing to explain, I'll just say that I think its interesting that you made a point why type-b was not a fluke, then the next sentence you give evidence that it was.
Oh I see. No that's not what I meant. Although his forte is his 2port wraith, Leta's regular tvz is excellent as well and definitely within the top 5, if not top 3 of terrans. He just beat fantasy in survivor and getting into the quarterfinals (correct me if I'm wrong) of an OSL is never easy, even if you are in a relatively "easy" group.
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On October 14 2009 22:19 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:14 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:08 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:
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Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha.
You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. -ZerO is a hugely entertaining player. -Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally. -type-b was a fluke, they happen. Yes, you're right. Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are just playing far worse than type-b, Shine, Zero, Yarnc, Calm, and Kwanro. That's why, it has nothing to do with racial imbalance, Kwanro is just a better than both Flash and Bisu combined. WHAT WAS I THINKING? Zerg racial imbalance, does that point have any merit at all? You don't even mention the maps, which would make you, at least someone reasonable. I'm not buying that Zerg themselves are overpowered bud.
Agreed. Funny to hear racial imbalance whine from a Terran player, everyone knows T has the highest winning percentage out of all the races from all broadcasted pro games
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Thank you, Shine! Gratz!!
bye-bye, Bisu
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On October 14 2009 22:19 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:14 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:08 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 21:38 ghostWriter wrote:
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Maybe Bisu should have considered this before he decided to get raped by Shine haha.
You can't say that shine isn't talented after he trashed bisu's pvz. yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. -ZerO is a hugely entertaining player. -Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally. -type-b was a fluke, they happen. Yes, you're right. Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are just playing far worse than type-b, Shine, Zero, Yarnc, Calm, and Kwanro. That's why, it has nothing to do with racial imbalance, Kwanro is just a better than both Flash and Bisu combined. WHAT WAS I THINKING? Zerg racial imbalance, does that point have any merit at all? You don't even mention the maps, which would make you, at least someone reasonable. I'm not buying that Zerg themselves are overpowered bud.
I don't need a completely biased fanboy to buy anything. You can keep thinking that Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are all crappy horrible players and that last season's Starleague semifinalists (which include Yarnc, Calm, Kwanro, type-b, and Zero) are better than ALL FIVE of the players I just mentioned.
If I have to even MAKE AN ARGUMENT as to why Kwanro isn't better than Flash or Bisu, then I'm not even going to bother.
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I love how there'd be no question about imbalance if Bisu had just won that extremely close game one. That means 2-0 Bisu and he's in the OSL.
One extremely close game swings one way = not imba.
Shine wins extremely close game = imba.
Please, lets not overreact anymore
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On October 14 2009 22:26 Hot_Bid wrote:I love how there'd be no question about imbalance if Bisu had just won that extremely close game one. That means 2-0 Bisu and he's in the OSL. One extremely close game swings one way = not imba. Shine wins extremely close game = imba. Please, lets not overreact anymore
that is a silly thing to say, isn't it? there is an 18 page zvp imbalance thread sitting right over there. the one close game is the difference between the discussion spilling into this thread or not, not whether the discussion exists.
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^ lachrymose gonna get banned for schooling a mod haha
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On October 14 2009 22:26 Hot_Bid wrote:I love how there'd be no question about imbalance if Bisu had just won that extremely close game one. That means 2-0 Bisu and he's in the OSL. One extremely close game swings one way = not imba. Shine wins extremely close game = imba. Please, lets not overreact anymore
I think the issue for most people wasn't game one, but the roflstomping of game 3. Of course it wouldn't have happened if Bisu had won game one, but it still was a stomping. =P
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On October 14 2009 22:26 Kyo Yuy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 22:19 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:14 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:08 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:06 Kyo Yuy wrote:On October 14 2009 22:01 keV. wrote:On October 14 2009 22:00 JWD wrote:On October 14 2009 21:58 Kreedit wrote:On October 14 2009 21:45 ghostWriter wrote:On October 14 2009 21:40 disciple wrote:
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yeah but the very thought that Shine "trashed" world's best PvZ is disturbing to say at least Well, like GTR said, this isn't the first time that Bisu has been eliminated early by some noob zerg that he should have advanced past. I think it has to do with his arrogance. He probably didn't prepare enough, thinking that it's just shine[kal] and that's how he ended up disappointing everyone. It's about time for zerg to have their heyday. Protoss and Terran have had way longer periods of dominance. I'm glad that the racial imbalance is beginning to change. About time? Are you for real? Zergs are allready having a 'period of dominance' (ya know those 4 titles and imba ZvP) and you want it to continue? The last season was one of the worst in recent memory with all these frigging ZvZ's and protoss getting crushed all over the place and you want it to continue? You honestly want all this to continue? I dont really know what to say. Yeah this is a good point, to say that the "racial imbalance is beginning to change" in favor of Zergs is pretty much to ignore the last half year of SC. Jaedong's have been beating the piss out of everyone for quite some time now. Fixed. If it was just Jaedong, then we wouldn't have had so many zergs in the RO8 of Bacchus and TWO ZvZ finals last season. When Savior was beating the piss out of everyone in 2006, we still saw quite a few Protosses in the leagues. I remember Pringles S2 MSL had Kingdom, Nal_ra, Terato, and Daezang, and maybe a couple others IIRC. THERE WERE 3 PROTOSS IN BACCHUS OSL and ONE in the Avalon MSL RO8. So no, it's not just Jaedong. It's any random Zerg that feels like winning on a given day (see: type-b, Shine, Zero) Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. -ZerO is a hugely entertaining player. -Shine can only thank Bisu for failing monumentally. -type-b was a fluke, they happen. Yes, you're right. Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are just playing far worse than type-b, Shine, Zero, Yarnc, Calm, and Kwanro. That's why, it has nothing to do with racial imbalance, Kwanro is just a better than both Flash and Bisu combined. WHAT WAS I THINKING? Zerg racial imbalance, does that point have any merit at all? You don't even mention the maps, which would make you, at least someone reasonable. I'm not buying that Zerg themselves are overpowered bud. I don't need a completely biased fanboy to buy anything. You can keep thinking that Flash, Leta, fantasy, Bisu, and Stork are all crappy horrible players and that last season's Starleague semifinalists (which include Yarnc, Calm, Kwanro, type-b, and Zero) are better than ALL FIVE of the players I just mentioned. If I have to even MAKE AN ARGUMENT as to why Kwanro isn't better than Flash or Bisu, then I'm not even going to bother.
Maybe if you watched more than a handful of tournaments, you'd be worth listening to. (You're not)
I didn't say that they were crappy players, I know they are not, that doesn't mean they can't perform poorly. Its not about being "better" then the other players. Individual leagues are about preparation, the win does not go to the player with the better win percentage by default. Calm, Yarnc and Zero are all coming into their own. Who in the world would be stupid enough to think that "those 5 players you mentioned" will always be the best. The reason they win is because they prepare more efficiently, not because they are Zerg, get a fucking clue.
In response to your last point, You'd have to make an argument that Zerg is overpowered. (Well you can't... because its fucking stupid, and anyone on this website should know that, it would be neat to see you try though...)
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