EPTFirst game Bisu lost like 4 hts at start without casting a storm and he lost barely... 3rd he losses 3 hts thats like 6 storms and lost the game because of that. If shine didnt attacked right away he would lost 100% sacrificing 900 gas and minerals for 3 hts
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
First game Bisu lost like 4 hts at start without casting a storm and he lost barely... 3rd he losses 3 hts thats like 6 storms and lost the game because of that. If shine didnt attacked right away he would lost 100% sacrificing 900 gas and minerals for 3 hts | ||
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omninmo
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
and type-b is a fluke? are you for real? that kid's almost (mayb even better) as good as yarnc | ||
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
Maybe if you watched more than a handful of tournaments, you'd be worth listening to. (You're not) Then why are you responding to me? You don't have to respond to me.I didn't say that they were crappy players, I know they are not Sounds like Terran and Protoss need to do better. Right, okay, moving on. The reason they win is because they prepare more efficiently, not because they are Zerg, get a fucking clue. So Terran and Protoss players NEVER prepare for their matches? That explains why so many random zerg players have been taking down the likes of Flash, fantasy, Leta, Bisu, and Stork. All five players are so cocky that they never prepare for their matches at all. In fact, not just those five, but EVERY SINGLE TERRAN AND PROTOSS PLAYER never prepares for a match. Only zerg players actually prepare for matches. You're right, I need to "get a fucking clue," because the other two races clearly never prepare for their matches.In response to your last point, You'd have to make an argument that Zerg is overpowered. (Well you can't... because its fucking stupid, and anyone on this website should know that, it would be neat to see you try though...) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=102568 Why do I have to try? Enough people do it any way, but I guess they're ALL "fucking stupid." N.B.: Flaming me does not make your points any more valid. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On October 14 2009 22:39 LeoTheLion wrote: kev don't be a deuche and type-b is a fluke? are you for real? that kid's almost (mayb even better) as good as yarnc Sweet, thanks for the insult. Without trying to sound like a dick, tybe-b might be good some day, but no... his win list is barely speckled with Vs over reputable players. No way he is at Yarnc's level. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On October 14 2009 22:48 Kyo Yuy wrote: Then why are you responding to me? You don't have to respond to me. Right, okay, moving on. So Terran and Protoss players NEVER prepare for their matches? That explains why so many random zerg players have been taking down the likes of Flash, fantasy, Leta, Bisu, and Stork. All five players are so cocky that they never prepare for their matches at all. In fact, not just those five, but EVERY SINGLE TERRAN AND PROTOSS PLAYER never prepares for a match. Only zerg players actually prepare for matches. You're right, I need to "get a fucking clue," because the other two races clearly never prepare for their matches. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=102568 Why do I have to try? Enough people do it any way, but I guess they're ALL "fucking stupid." N.B.: Flaming me does not make your points any more valid. I don't feel like quoting. In bullets: - I respond to you because I try and kill baseless claims and misinformation before they spread. - Those two statements are blatantly not the same thing, and anyone who reads books will tell you that. - You said this already, I'll just repeat myself that it is not always the case that the better player on paper wins, you can go back in time and find plenty of other tournaments with the other races in dominant attendance. I suggest you read up on the Taek-Bang era. - Hey neat trick, I can twist the argument at run time too! You specifically mentioned Terran players, your claim was about Z versus any race and not ZvP in particular. Whats that third race again? You know, the one that has a massive statistical advantage against Zerg? Let me know if you find that out. This was fun. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10800 Posts
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
On October 14 2009 22:48 Kyo Yuy wrote: Then why are you responding to me? You don't have to respond to me. Right, okay, moving on. So Terran and Protoss players NEVER prepare for their matches? That explains why so many random zerg players have been taking down the likes of Flash, fantasy, Leta, Bisu, and Stork. All five players are so cocky that they never prepare for their matches at all. In fact, not just those five, but EVERY SINGLE TERRAN AND PROTOSS PLAYER never prepares for a match. Only zerg players actually prepare for matches. You're right, I need to "get a fucking clue," because the other two races clearly never prepare for their matches. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=102568 Why do I have to try? Enough people do it any way, but I guess they're ALL "fucking stupid." N.B.: Flaming me does not make your points any more valid. Can you please calm down and stop spewing this rhetoric that makes you sound like an asshole. Sarcasm has its uses, but yelling at people through your keyboard does not make you look very smart either. Also, please take a step back and realize that these three races have been "balanced" for almost a decade. Zerg doesn't have more individual league wins than P or T. You walking in here and proclaiming things with a condescending attitude doesn't change the evidence -- that in the current Korean proscene, maps influence game balance far more than actual race traits. And yes, it is "pretty fucking stupid" to argue that Zerg on the whole is overpowered. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
On October 14 2009 22:29 Lachrymose wrote: that is a silly thing to say, isn't it? there is an 18 page zvp imbalance thread sitting right over there. the one close game is the difference between the discussion spilling into this thread or not, not whether the discussion exists. there were dozens of 18 page threads complaining about pvz balance before bisu showed up. what is your point, that the number of imbalance threads is correlated with the actual balance of the game? that thread is ridiculous. there's nothing so inherently imbalanced about zvp/pvz that newer maps can't fix. and you can't deny that theres like a 500% increase in whining protoss players about imbalance when bisu loses a few games. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
Race Stats (non-mirrors): TvZ: 248-200 ZvP: 216-200 PvT: 268-235 Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats???? | ||
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United States2822 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote: oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009 Race Stats (non-mirrors): TvZ: 248-200 ZvP: 216-200 PvT: 268-235 Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats???? Yeah, but that does kind of completely encapsulate the period of time when Protoss was the strongest, until now where protoss are dropping like flies, and this current "zerg" era has yet to finish, either. | ||
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sh02hp0869
Sweden460 Posts
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
Relax ppl its just a OSL... U know bisu will never win one, on other hand probably he is going to win this MSL. Nice to see pusan beating canata, that I didnt expected. So PVT IMBA POOR CANATA! lol sry. When is BackHo going to play the OSL? he and Perfectman are the protoss hope (Yes and Gosi[flying], yes Oz Toss and Estro Toss FTW) | ||
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ProbeSaturation
Canada292 Posts
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6177 Posts
Yaeh !! Pusan :D | ||
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