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				On October 15 2009 02:11 funKy_KroK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009
 
 Race Stats (non-mirrors):
 TvZ:	248-200
 ZvP:	216-200
 PvT:	268-235
 
 Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????
 Proleage isn't a valid argument. Players are sending only on maps they have a shot to win. Starleague stats are a really really better argument. And only few protoss players will be in OSL and MSL yeah proleague sucks, good players don't play in it and the maps suck anyway.
 
 On the other hand, I think this is appropriate:
 
 ![[image loading]](http://i31.tinypic.com/2qckmjd.jpg) 
 
 
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				I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself
			
		
	 
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				On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself
 like Pusan goes to the army or smthing
 O.O
 
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				What's the big deal?  Bisu has been failing in Starleagues for a while now. He needed  BackHo to drop to get back into Batoo after losing to  by.hero, only to be rolled by  fantasy; he picked sub-.500  go.go who proceeded to deep six him in Bacchus, then lost to  ZerO; he needlessly threw away hordes of units against  Iris in their Avalon series; he lost to  sAviOr (who he chose) and Zero in Lost Saga. 
 It feels like he gets bumped by terrans almost as often as he does by zergs.
 
 Time to face facts: Bisu will always find ways to lose.
 
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				On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian   yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason.  are you butt ugly?
 
 
 
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				On October 14 2009 20:21 Holgerius wrote:I do own several hats and will provide pics of me eating one of them if Bisu loses a game.
 
 
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				On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009
 
 Race Stats (non-mirrors):
 TvZ:	248-200
 ZvP:	216-200
 PvT:	268-235
 
 Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????
 
 I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.
 
 
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				I am very pleased with this result. 
			
		
		
	 
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				On October 15 2009 03:20 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian   yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason.  are you butt ugly? Nice to see you're not banned anymore. -_-;
 
 And now that I think about it, I doubt we'll see many Protosses in the Ro16... maybe 3-4.
 
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						Aotearoa39261 Posts
						 On October 15 2009 03:22 soudo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009
 
 Race Stats (non-mirrors):
 TvZ:	248-200
 ZvP:	216-200
 PvT:	268-235
 
 Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????
 I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.  OSL Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/271_09_Fall_OSL_Prelims
 TvZ: 	59-48  	(55.1%) 	[ Games ]
 ZvP: 	58-37 	(61.1%) 	[ Games ]
 PvT: 	64-61 	(51.2%) 	[ Games ]
 
 MST Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/270_09_Fall_MST_Prelims
 TvZ: 	45-52  	(46.4%) 	[ Games ]
 ZvP: 	61-35 	(63.5%) 	[ Games ]
 PvT: 	57-50 	(53.3%) 	[ Games ]
 
 PvZ isn't imba... but this season the maps are saying Z>P quite strongly
 
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				ugh what are these garbage results..
 no bisu are you serious?? Someone break your back for a wildcard plz
 
 
 Pusan advancing is cool.. but it won't mean much for long
 
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				WTF, so long for Bisu taking an OSL, at least fighting someone in the finals... WTFI'm so disappointed.
 
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				maybe this is a good sign, last season Bisu was the best P in starleagues and now even Pusan is better than him at OSL.
 some Protoss winning OSL, Bisu at least winning MSL
 
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						United States11393 Posts
						 On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself
 So he can fail even harder yet again?
 
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						ahahahah bisu what a fail
							  
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				Bisu is out already? Seriously? 
			
		
		
	 
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						The Bisu fans tears... they are delicious.
							  
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