• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:48
CEST 14:48
KST 21:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Path of Exile OutLive 25 (RTS Game)
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1086 users

[OSL] EVER 2009 Round of 36 Group A/B - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 50 Next All
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 14 2009 17:13 GMT
#881
On October 15 2009 02:11 funKy_KroK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


Proleage isn't a valid argument. Players are sending only on maps they have a shot to win. Starleague stats are a really really better argument. And only few protoss players will be in OSL and MSL

yeah proleague sucks, good players don't play in it and the maps suck anyway.

On the other hand, I think this is appropriate:
[image loading]

Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
October 14 2009 17:53 GMT
#882
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 14 2009 17:54 GMT
#883
On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself

like Pusan goes to the army or smthing
O.O
cw)minsean(ru
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 14 2009 18:01 GMT
#884
LOOOOOOOL BISU
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
October 14 2009 18:02 GMT
#885
What's the big deal? (P)Bisu has been failing in Starleagues for a while now. He needed (P)BackHo to drop to get back into Batoo after losing to (Z)by.hero, only to be rolled by (T)fantasy; he picked sub-.500 (T)go.go who proceeded to deep six him in Bacchus, then lost to (Z)ZerO; he needlessly threw away hordes of units against (T)Iris in their Avalon series; he lost to (Z)sAviOr (who he chose) and Zero in Lost Saga.

It feels like he gets bumped by terrans almost as often as he does by zergs.

Time to face facts: Bisu will always find ways to lose.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 14 2009 18:20 GMT
#886
On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian

yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason. are you butt ugly?

......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#887
On October 14 2009 20:21 Holgerius wrote:
I do own several hats and will provide pics of me eating one of them if Bisu loses a game.

soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
October 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#888
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.
Jenbu
Profile Joined October 2009
United States115 Posts
October 14 2009 18:26 GMT
#889
YES!!! Pusan made it!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 14 2009 19:01 GMT
#890
I am very pleased with this result.
RIP Aaliyah
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 14 2009 19:01 GMT
#891
On October 15 2009 03:20 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian

yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason. are you butt ugly?


Nice to see you're not banned anymore. -_-;

And now that I think about it, I doubt we'll see many Protosses in the Ro16... maybe 3-4.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 14 2009 19:24 GMT
#892
On October 15 2009 03:22 soudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.

OSL Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/271_09_Fall_OSL_Prelims
TvZ: 59-48 (55.1%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 58-37 (61.1%) [ Games ]
PvT: 64-61 (51.2%) [ Games ]

MST Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/270_09_Fall_MST_Prelims
TvZ: 45-52 (46.4%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 61-35 (63.5%) [ Games ]
PvT: 57-50 (53.3%) [ Games ]

PvZ isn't imba... but this season the maps are saying Z>P quite strongly
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 14 2009 19:38 GMT
#893
ugh what are these garbage results..

no bisu are you serious?? Someone break your back for a wildcard plz


Pusan advancing is cool.. but it won't mean much for long
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 14 2009 19:40 GMT
#894
WTF, so long for Bisu taking an OSL, at least fighting someone in the finals... WTF
I'm so disappointed.
BW fighting!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
October 14 2009 19:42 GMT
#895
lol no bisu
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
October 14 2009 19:44 GMT
#896
maybe this is a good sign, last season Bisu was the best P in starleagues and now even Pusan is better than him at OSL.

some Protoss winning OSL, Bisu at least winning MSL
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 14 2009 19:48 GMT
#897
On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself

So he can fail even harder yet again?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20663 Posts
October 14 2009 19:50 GMT
#898
ahahahah bisu what a fail
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 14 2009 19:54 GMT
#899
Bisu is out already? Seriously?
this is my quote.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
October 14 2009 19:56 GMT
#900
The Bisu fans tears... they are delicious.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Wardi Spring Cup
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
WardiTV454
LiquipediaDiscussion
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 5: Group C
Shameless vs SHINLIVE!
Tasteless1208
IntoTheiNu 780
Ryung 376
Rex121
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #145
CranKy Ducklings35
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1184
Ryung 376
Lowko306
Rex 118
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47324
Sea 16570
Calm 9069
Horang2 1601
EffOrt 668
BeSt 526
Mini 460
firebathero 396
Soulkey 346
Zeus 198
[ Show more ]
Last 184
Mind 126
PianO 102
ToSsGirL 96
Sharp 89
HiyA 87
ggaemo 85
Pusan 68
Backho 54
Shinee 51
Noble 42
Hyun 41
hero 36
Aegong 34
sorry 20
Sacsri 13
yabsab 12
Rock 12
GoRush 11
JulyZerg 7
Icarus 2
Dota 2
Gorgc3920
XcaliburYe379
BananaSlamJamma80
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m2802
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor161
Other Games
gofns11430
singsing2425
B2W.Neo756
DeMusliM351
monkeys_forever130
Livibee86
Mew2King57
ArmadaUGS43
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL17354
Other Games
gamesdonequick1670
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 524
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 13
• Dystopia_ 4
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3036
• Jankos1349
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
12m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2h 12m
BSL
6h 12m
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
11h 12m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 12m
RSL Revival
21h 12m
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
22h 12m
BSL
1d 6h
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
1d 19h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 21h
Soma vs Leta
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W6
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.