• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:13
CET 15:13
KST 23:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)39
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 4 StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) KSL Week 85 OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1384 users

[OSL] EVER 2009 Round of 36 Group A/B - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 50 Next All
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 14 2009 17:13 GMT
#881
On October 15 2009 02:11 funKy_KroK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


Proleage isn't a valid argument. Players are sending only on maps they have a shot to win. Starleague stats are a really really better argument. And only few protoss players will be in OSL and MSL

yeah proleague sucks, good players don't play in it and the maps suck anyway.

On the other hand, I think this is appropriate:
[image loading]

Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
October 14 2009 17:53 GMT
#882
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
October 14 2009 17:54 GMT
#883
On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself

like Pusan goes to the army or smthing
O.O
cw)minsean(ru
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 14 2009 18:01 GMT
#884
LOOOOOOOL BISU
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
October 14 2009 18:02 GMT
#885
What's the big deal? (P)Bisu has been failing in Starleagues for a while now. He needed (P)BackHo to drop to get back into Batoo after losing to (Z)by.hero, only to be rolled by (T)fantasy; he picked sub-.500 (T)go.go who proceeded to deep six him in Bacchus, then lost to (Z)ZerO; he needlessly threw away hordes of units against (T)Iris in their Avalon series; he lost to (Z)sAviOr (who he chose) and Zero in Lost Saga.

It feels like he gets bumped by terrans almost as often as he does by zergs.

Time to face facts: Bisu will always find ways to lose.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 14 2009 18:20 GMT
#886
On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian

yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason. are you butt ugly?

......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#887
On October 14 2009 20:21 Holgerius wrote:
I do own several hats and will provide pics of me eating one of them if Bisu loses a game.

soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
October 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#888
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.
Jenbu
Profile Joined October 2009
United States115 Posts
October 14 2009 18:26 GMT
#889
YES!!! Pusan made it!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 14 2009 19:01 GMT
#890
I am very pleased with this result.
RIP Aaliyah
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 14 2009 19:01 GMT
#891
On October 15 2009 03:20 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:25 scintilliaSD wrote:
I made a sign that said "Spirit will set you free (Hi Plexa!)" but I wasn't put on camera because I'm Asian

yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the reason. are you butt ugly?


Nice to see you're not banned anymore. -_-;

And now that I think about it, I doubt we'll see many Protosses in the Ro16... maybe 3-4.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 14 2009 19:24 GMT
#892
On October 15 2009 03:22 soudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 23:15 Hot_Bid wrote:
oh hey, here are the stats for the last two years of proleague 2007-2009

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 248-200
ZvP: 216-200
PvT: 268-235

Guess which non mirror is the least "imba" based on PL stats????


I'm not arguing that there is a ZvP imbalance, but those stats only tell us how well the races do against each other on maps where they have a chance. To get an even more accurate picture, you should look at that amount of mirror matches each race had since the amount of mirror matches generally indicate which race has a favorable matchup.

OSL Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/271_09_Fall_OSL_Prelims
TvZ: 59-48 (55.1%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 58-37 (61.1%) [ Games ]
PvT: 64-61 (51.2%) [ Games ]

MST Fall Prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/270_09_Fall_MST_Prelims
TvZ: 45-52 (46.4%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 61-35 (63.5%) [ Games ]
PvT: 57-50 (53.3%) [ Games ]

PvZ isn't imba... but this season the maps are saying Z>P quite strongly
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 14 2009 19:38 GMT
#893
ugh what are these garbage results..

no bisu are you serious?? Someone break your back for a wildcard plz


Pusan advancing is cool.. but it won't mean much for long
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
October 14 2009 19:40 GMT
#894
WTF, so long for Bisu taking an OSL, at least fighting someone in the finals... WTF
I'm so disappointed.
BW fighting!
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
October 14 2009 19:42 GMT
#895
lol no bisu
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
October 14 2009 19:44 GMT
#896
maybe this is a good sign, last season Bisu was the best P in starleagues and now even Pusan is better than him at OSL.

some Protoss winning OSL, Bisu at least winning MSL
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
October 14 2009 19:48 GMT
#897
On October 15 2009 02:53 monstar123 wrote:
I hope there will be some Wild Card for Bisu to redeem himself

So he can fail even harder yet again?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 14 2009 19:50 GMT
#898
ahahahah bisu what a fail
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 14 2009 19:54 GMT
#899
Bisu is out already? Seriously?
this is my quote.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 14 2009 19:56 GMT
#900
The Bisu fans tears... they are delicious.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 48m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko455
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5960
Rain 4016
Sea 3314
Bisu 2311
Flash 2114
Jaedong 2091
Horang2 1097
Larva 942
actioN 827
Mini 758
[ Show more ]
Stork 561
BeSt 478
Light 411
ggaemo 396
Shuttle 332
firebathero 298
Snow 291
hero 218
Soma 148
Hyun 127
Zeus 122
Hyuk 111
Mind 93
Aegong 67
Sharp 41
JYJ 37
Killer 31
HiyA 27
Yoon 26
ToSsGirL 26
Hm[arnc] 24
Movie 24
scan(afreeca) 23
sorry 23
Shinee 23
GoRush 19
zelot 15
soO 15
yabsab 15
Shine 14
Terrorterran 13
Noble 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
910 9
Rock 4
Dota 2
singsing2503
qojqva1967
Dendi662
XcaliburYe137
Counter-Strike
fl0m1975
olofmeister1710
zeus1277
edward202
markeloff81
Other Games
B2W.Neo1301
hiko491
crisheroes331
Pyrionflax302
QueenE146
Hui .132
Happy121
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 939
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade949
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 48m
Wardi Open
21h 48m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-01
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.