[Guide] The Stove - Page 3

On June 08 2009 00:09 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Uhm typo?
They only cost 275 right..? Wait lemme check

On June 08 2009 00:32 Chef wrote:
Better players than you have lost to it ^^

On June 08 2009 00:47 Stimpacked wrote:


those better players should'nt be called better.. =)

On June 08 2009 00:49 sixghost wrote:

Strat forum hero right here.

On June 08 2009 01:03 Stimpacked wrote:


im just defending my point that this build isnt just viable nowadays.. maybe back then but now never. marines can negate the scout. dts can be late bec of stargate plus lack of gas. and assuming every terran nowadays just adds turrets when they smell somethings fishy. and how the hell can it survive from a strong fd?

On June 08 2009 01:28 Arsis wrote:

What's your Iccup account? I'll be happy to school you a bit with this very build, then provide more replays for this topic... hell, it will even take away the disadvantage of not knowing that I'll do.

Awesome topic, Chef. This and the 4 gate 2 Archon guide are so far my favorite in this website. ^.^

On June 08 2009 04:51 Chef wrote:
If you're having trouble with the early little group of marines Terran's get, I would suggest another perspective. For example, you know that your scout is faster than his marines. This means you can fly around his base as much as you like, and he will never actually be able to kill you. If he keeps chasing you with his marines, you can tech/expo faster than you normally would because you want need to build units for defending a push. If he moves out with his marines and tank, then you will get free hits on his SCVs, and more critically, his scvs that are trying to build stuff.

Also, if he is relying on his marines to fend off your scout, is he getting turrets or detection? This will help your DTs make up for your scout in the second part of the game.

I'm of course not saying this is a superior strategy, or faulting you. I am only trying to suggest how you can better utilize this build, as apposed to setting up barriers like 'since Terrans do this it's impossible.' My replays aren't from 4 years ago. They're all 1.16.

If you can take out a marine that strays from it's group, this will also help you.

Although in my guide I suggest killing an expo's worth with your scout, that was more of a joke than a serious expectation. The advantage a scout gives you is more the intel it gives you than anything. It will get there at a timing far earlier than a regular observers build, and allow you to get quickly to arbiters because it is along the way, unlike a robo and observatory. If you get just 3 kills with the scout that's probably normal.