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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On April 09 2009 18:20 Lobbo wrote: So how do a D/D+ player find a WORSE player? kinda hard gogo barrier break -.- disagree. i think there is a huge variety of skill at D to D+ | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On April 09 2009 13:38 Day[9] wrote: FINALLY uploaded new one! rawrawr very interesting. thanks | ||
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HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
On April 09 2009 18:27 choboPEon wrote: disagree. i think there is a huge variety of skill at D to D+ It's hard to find someone worse that play rather standard instead of cannon rush/sunken rush (colo) or chees you to the brink of insanity. But at the moment I'm stuck I can't skill past D+ to C- | ||
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shenlong
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
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PlutoNZ
New Zealand410 Posts
Thanks. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
D/D+/C- is already filled with smurfing higher level players, you dont need to encourage ppl to play against the lesser palyers, i assure you way too many people do that already. Just damn, you cant imagine how bad is to lose when you are doin things quite ok, you trick your opponent but you didnt kill him and will roll you cuz has better macro and timing... Or just get smashed to the ground by a strong buildorder that you never played against, adn you dont need to pracitce against against it because at your level nobody uses it... I'm so pissed right now, how can you give advices that actually hurt most of the community/players? (most of the ppl are on low levels) Here's my personal example. I'm usually C- (once reached C for a short time, doesnt matter), i easely beat 80% of the D/D+ players, but i cant get to C- anytime soon because i keep meeting very good players who are rolling me over time and time again. Maybe with 15-20 loss i reach C-. When i get rolled on D/D+ level i ask for hihgest rank, many times the answer is B- or C/C+, if they answer at all, some ppl are ashamed of smurfing. And this isnt at the start of the season.... It's ok to lose some games even at ranks which are lower than yours but making long loss streaks on D+ it's just annoying. Maybe i'm too unlucky and meet too many smurfing players, but i really fed up with them. Even when i'm D i many times enter D+ games when they allow to get trough D quickly. | ||
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On April 09 2009 22:02 Geo.Rion wrote: damn you day[9]!!! D/D+/C- is already filled with smurfing higher level players, you dont need to encourage ppl to play against the lesser palyers, i assure you way too many people do that already. Just damn, you cant imagine how bad is to lose when you are doin things quite ok, you trick your opponent but you didnt kill him and will roll you cuz has better macro and timing... Or just get smashed to the ground by a strong buildorder that you never played against, adn you dont need to pracitce against against it because at your level nobody uses it... I'm so pissed right now, how can you give advices that actually hurt most of the community/players? (most of the ppl are on low levels) Here's my personal example. I'm usually C- (once reached C for a short time, doesnt matter), i easely beat 80% of the D/D+ players, but i cant get to C- anytime soon because i keep meeting very good players who are rolling me over time and time again. Maybe with 15-20 loss i reach C-. When i get rolled on D/D+ level i ask for hihgest rank, many times the answer is B- or C/C+, if they answer at all, some ppl are ashamed of smurfing. And this isnt at the start of the season.... It's ok to lose some games even at ranks which are lower than yours but making long loss streaks on D+ it's just annoying. Maybe i'm too unlucky and meet too many smurfing players, but i really fed up with them. Even when i'm D i many times enter D+ games when they allow to get trough D quickly. not to bring another thread into this, but an E rating on iccup might solve this. smurfers would have another choice without directly hurting the lowest level of players. | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
On the other hand, those who follow Day's advice will ultimately increase the variety of gamestyles at higher levels. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On April 09 2009 22:10 Hammy wrote: Well there's nothing wrong with what Day[9] is saying. The only problem is that now people will be thinking "dude you mean I'm actually improving while bashing noobs? damn I should do that more often, it's really fun anyways!" which is quite the opposite of what Day[9] is trying to say : ). On the other hand, those who follow Day's advice will ultimately increase the variety of gamestyles at higher levels. yeah let the noobs die for the joy of the elite | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
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whatusername
Canada1181 Posts
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threepool
United States150 Posts
On April 09 2009 22:40 whatusername wrote: man day[9] great new podcast, but could you make one on how to help little newbies improve That's what all of these are for, where "newbie" is anybody weaker than A+. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I do this all the time when trying out a new build or a map that i not comfortable with or when I need to boost my confidence after a couple of losses, it really helps. | ||
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threepool
United States150 Posts
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HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
On April 10 2009 00:18 threepool wrote: Well I liked the podcast as usual, but after spending a few minutes on iCCup today, I think the effects are showing. Day, you'd damn well better do your next cast on "What to do when you're getting crushed all day by 300 APM D players" Yes I'm getting stomped  ( | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 10 2009 00:18 threepool wrote: Well I liked the podcast as usual, but after spending a few minutes on iCCup today, I think the effects are showing. Day, you'd damn well better do your next cast on "What to do when you're getting crushed all day by 300 APM D players" Hehe, But i actually don't think the best idea is to stomp D players if you're already a high ranked player. When I need to check a strat or warmup or something i can borrow a friends C C+ account for my tests. Its still against lesser players but its better than D because they actually do some strategies the correct way, no offence^^ Wouldn't you agree Day? | ||
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
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Strayline
United States330 Posts
On March 25 2009 06:43 Day[9] wrote: anyone bashing hotkeys/mouse control are dead wrong. i spent months reworking how i held my mouse and how to improve my keyboard for accuracy purposes. I have tons of exercises that will be included in future audios. literally ANY question that you have about starcraft is likely a legitimate one so KEEP ASKING THEM PLEASE!!! : ] Might I suggest this as a good starting place for the podcast you owe us noobs after that last one Any tricks or shortcuts to get the supply/base/macro/mechanic (I'm trying to to say APM here) stuff a little faster then the standard "just play a lot of games" answer related would, I think, be welcome to those of us looking to climb high high enough that "resetting to D" actually means something Bonus for me if you make it Zerg related (drones!!!) but I understand you try to keep it meta.As others have said, those of us at D get into our own "logical corners" when we get stomped by all the smurfing even if you think (and argue persuasively) that it is legit. And since there isn't really much we can do at this point to get our confidence back, I think the above may be helpful along another axis. | ||
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