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[G] How to stop 4-5pools with every race - Page 3

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 28 2008 23:12 GMT
#41
On November 28 2008 23:59 Empyrean wrote:
I don't know why the Zerg didn't target your gateway/probes more instead of the pylon. He sees two pylon but still decides to try and destroy one of them what the fuck? He'd be better off if he picks off some probes/harasses the gateway instead of killing one of the two pylons powering the gateway.

Also your splits weren't that great

Haha, you're still probably better than I am

Reason why is because I have to press F8 to start recording, Ctrl+Alt+Insert to start winamp song, and then split. Try it lol
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
November 28 2008 23:23 GMT
#42
On November 29 2008 08:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2008 21:04 Final_Judicator wrote:
On November 28 2008 19:04 3clipse wrote:
1st video; what the hell is that music? I can't decide if I like it, but I'm curious...


lol, her voice is sexy.

You're such a tease. xD
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 28 2008 23:47 GMT
#43
If you click the link to the video I stated the artists.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
November 29 2008 01:48 GMT
#44
Ah, pardon my laziness.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-29 21:39:39
November 29 2008 21:16 GMT
#45
I have a bunch of other stupid song videos in my profile showing 3-10 minute early-mid games with these same openers vs pubs.

Such as this:

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 29 2008 22:03 GMT
#46
SMAQ!! WHERE IS HE?!
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7875 Posts
November 30 2008 00:10 GMT
#47
On November 27 2008 21:08 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 20:56 Biff The Understudy wrote:
The terran one is retarded: everybody can stop a 4 pool with 8 rax. The problem is: you don't know that 4 pool is coming and you go 11 rax.

And you die.

On bb I always open with 9rax/10depot vs zerg or random sometimes even vs protoss. Its perfectly viable and will stop a 5pool (i'm pretty sure) but 8rax is guaranteed to stop the 4pool.
If they don't rush when I 9 rax I just make 1 marine and a 2nd barracks/depot sooner.

It's pretty hard to fit all the 'what ifs' into the video, it would just be an endless stream of tangents (sorta like a combat-X vid, but actually correct).
Basically all these builds are pretty safe to open with vs anything. That was the point of all the videos.

btw, I've never opened 11rax on BB.

As everybody or almost opens 11 rax vs zerg, there must be a way of fighting efficiently 4 pool with workers while rax/bunker is on the way.

If not, every zerg in the world and especially in pro gaming would open 4 pool, which I almost never see in ZvT.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 01:10:18
November 30 2008 01:09 GMT
#48
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It's map specific. Lemme pull out the OP for you.

I made a bunch of videos about stopping 4 and 5 pools on BB with every race. So if it works here, it'll work (or a variation of it will work on a larger map).
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 01:44:30
November 30 2008 01:43 GMT
#49
On November 30 2008 06:16 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I have a bunch of other stupid song videos in my profile showing 3-10 minute early-mid games with these same openers vs pubs.

Such as this:
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhRpVJprcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkys454SuqY


LMAO at C&C music factory in the first vid
fuck art its a competition if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough - Idra, on the "art" of RTS games.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 30 2008 01:53 GMT
#50
Nice vids if you are actually playing BB but I was expecting the standard PvZ forge FE, TvZ 11rax, and 9/overpool ZvZ on regular 3-4 player medium sized maps. Still better than nothing though.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
November 30 2008 02:49 GMT
#51
On November 30 2008 10:43 Ghost151 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2008 06:16 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I have a bunch of other stupid song videos in my profile showing 3-10 minute early-mid games with these same openers vs pubs.

Such as this:
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFhRpVJprcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkys454SuqY


LMAO at C&C music factory in the first vid

I made about 22 of these BB public noob rape videos playing random. So there are quite a diverse set of opening builds and stuff in there.
Mostly though, 9pool speed/burrowling to 3 hatch lings.
10/12 gate zeal harass /canoning.
8/9/11 rax MnM timing attack
or Wall to Mech.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 30 2008 03:02 GMT
#52
NICE WORK CHARLIE, maybe its map dependant but its a nice add to the strategy section, because it covers the basics points. People that want a variation for other maps or BOs should work at least a little, fucking crying lazy bastards. Nice music for BW.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
November 30 2008 03:22 GMT
#53
1.16 works well on Hamachi~
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
November 30 2008 18:22 GMT
#54
Terran vs 4/5 pool on python:

from 1 rax fe
bunker as soon as you see lings come in, scv + marine micro
do not block ramp or do anything silly like that
your objective is to lose the least number of scvs possible and clumping them all up right in his face isn't going to help.
if you have slow reflexes, you can send out a second scv scout at the proper timing to have a little bit more reaction time (you see lings enter your nat). If you don't see any lings at the 4/5pool timing, just send this "scout" back to mine.

After defending, take gas and acad. Play standard 1rax acad vs 1base tech Z.

Building placement is of the utmost importance, you just have to practice it. Get someone to 4/5pool against you every game and figure out good spots for supply rax, bunker, 2nd supply, acad, etc. Make sure your building placement is still fine if your opponent plays standard.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 30 2008 19:47 GMT
#55
On December 01 2008 03:22 Phrujbaz wrote:
Terran vs 4/5 pool on python:

from 1 rax fe
bunker as soon as you see lings come in, scv + marine micro
do not block ramp or do anything silly like that
your objective is to lose the least number of scvs possible and clumping them all up right in his face isn't going to help.
if you have slow reflexes, you can send out a second scv scout at the proper timing to have a little bit more reaction time (you see lings enter your nat). If you don't see any lings at the 4/5pool timing, just send this "scout" back to mine.

After defending, take gas and acad. Play standard 1rax acad vs 1base tech Z.

Building placement is of the utmost importance, you just have to practice it. Get someone to 4/5pool against you every game and figure out good spots for supply rax, bunker, 2nd supply, acad, etc. Make sure your building placement is still fine if your opponent plays standard.

lol stopped reading right there.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
November 30 2008 20:03 GMT
#56
This is on BLOOD BATH omg

Stop saying "use some standard BOs", at least request a change of map if you're gonna do that
I will eat you alive
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 30 2008 20:13 GMT
#57
He specified it was on python, but the fact that he said holding his ramp against a 5pool is "silly" is silly.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 04 2009 00:27 GMT
#58
My Youtube account was deleted, did anyone save these videos by any chance?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=84861
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 04 2009 15:27 GMT
#59
great loss charlie this videos were a "must have". please tell me theres a copy somewhere.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Teh_Arbitur
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden60 Posts
January 04 2009 18:16 GMT
#60
hmm, i personally hate bloodbath.

(when i play Terran)I usually get a early rack (early enough to counter a 4 pool) then get factories so i've never had problems with a 4 pool before from what i can remember.

fearus wrote: How is Bisu going to be able to concentrate with his striking good looks staring back at him? Conspiracy!!!!
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