The Difference between Koreans and Foreigners - Page 8

On September 15 2008 12:12 qet wrote:
haha yes paul morphy!

there is a famous game of his where he forces the enemy king all the way forward, until it was on the first rank (behind morphy's pawns), then castles for checkmate!

0-0#

On September 15 2008 12:10 qet wrote:
you're making a lot more than only one post...

and i resent whoever said "australian's best friend is a kangaroo", or something.
there are no kangaroos in the cities!

On September 15 2008 12:10 yoshtodd wrote:
It's like Boxer dazzling everyone in the beginning with his aggressive style, but now the skill level and pool of knowledge has increased such that people no longer lose to pure all out attack. I'm guessing SC2 might go the same way... seeming more "boring" as time goes by and more players rise to become competitors to be the best in the world.

On September 15 2008 12:29 anotak wrote:

I hate this attitude that safe play is "boring". Or the related but opposite attitude that cheese is "boring". I think people that feel either way about it completely lack imagination.

You wrote:
But the foreigners being inconsistent and creative is also a precious asset. Koreans (or all Asians, for that matter) are very conservative and standard, thus predictable, in nearly everything they do, and Starcraft is no exception. Foreigners can play very entertaining games because they come up with creative strategies all the time, and that can catch even a pro with his pants down.

You wrote:
Koreans (or all Asians, for that matter) are very conservative and standard, thus predictable, in nearly everything they do, and Starcraft is no exception

I made a sociological argument why Korean progamers play very precise and standard while foreigners play much looser and wilder.

On September 15 2008 12:43 EvoChamber wrote:
I don't know, I just feel like this thread needs to be derailed more. I mean, I love making broad, useless generalizations about entire civilizations—it's just that there's not enough of it here.

On September 15 2008 12:35 surfed wrote:
onepost:


This was discussed earlier. The reason why foreigners are inconsistent and creative is mostly because they practice in a style that differs from the "consistent and standard, thus predictable Koreans(or ALL Asians)." Not because theyre especially creative. In order to react to some unusual build, foreigners probably need to make up something right on the spot. Koreans have it memorized.
(Oh yeah.. this was said earlier)


Focusing on this specific statement:

Maybe you can make that statement about the general Asian population 1264039268 years ago, but in this day, Asian people have experienced parts of the Western culture, and the same for the reverse.



An argument alright.. but not a very effective one.

On September 15 2008 12:46 anotak wrote:

hey guys racism is fun and exciting !~!!@!#

On September 15 2008 12:34 onepost wrote:


Safe play leads to very predictable games. While these can be spectacular, they provide with little variations.

Cheese is frustrating for players and a bit disappointing for fans.

I don't find either boring but understand the point of view of those that do.

On September 15 2008 12:57 arb wrote:
Shit.

@ Thread Derailment.

Artosis' posts was gold. And I agree with all of it :/

On September 15 2008 12:59 Equinox_kr wrote:


How is cheese disappointing for the fans? Sure, the game is shorter, but the game is more entertaining, which is what brings in people and results.

Tell me, do those crazed Korean girls scream and cheer when they see an awesome SCV + Marine cheese or a Factory being built?

On September 15 2008 11:59 onepost wrote:


Care to explain why it wouldn't preclude it?

I made a sociological argument why Korean progamers play very precise and standard while foreigners play much looser and wilder. I supported my rather trivial and uncontroversial point of view with sound arguments, which are corroborated by both common sense and about as much documented evidence as the Holocaust. I didn't call anybody names even when provoked.

Now if not liking my point of view or being too lazy to read and understand my posts meets the requirements for a damn good reason to use flame, then I don't see why I or anyone with a brain would bother to post on these forums.

then I don't see why I or anyone with a brain

On September 14 2008 06:34 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
An heavily edited extract from my macro guide:

One key to speed is to always know what you're supposed to do, and knowing it by heart.

The poor player spends a lot of time thinking about what to do, hence he doesn't have time to actually do it. As the poor player grows better he learns how to spend his time; now the problem is to actually do all these things he thought about on beforehand. However, eventually he'll manage, and then he'll start to think about more, not as necessary, though still useful, things to do. Eventually he'll learn to execute these too.

Executing an action is made up of three parts.

1) Remembering what action to do, or possibly figuring it out if it's an familiar situation. The second scenario would drain a LOT of time, something we want to avoid.

2) Remembering how to do the action.

3) Actually doing the action.

While number 3 is made up entirely of muscle memory and hence must be practised in-game, number 1 and 2 may be trained while not playing. Though some imaginations might be needed to relate the memory to the right in-game situation.

Another thing to consider is this: The more time you spend watching your commands being executed, the less time you'll have to give new commands. The efficient player will always be giving commands but will never be watching them being executed. It's a matter of trusting yourself with being able to give commands without miss-clicking.