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xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
May 02 2010 04:13 GMT
#221
On May 02 2010 13:00 Harlekuin wrote:
The 7 oclock natural for the zling tight nat on matchpoint shows position 1 oclock again

They don't work anymore on the current version so I just deleted them, thanks for alerting me.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 01:24:43
May 03 2010 01:10 GMT
#222
On June 14 2008 23:18 axel wrote:
terrans should always wall asap vs P whatever they plan.

lol are you serious?
The main summary should to always avoid walling as much as you can. Only do it if you're not confident in your positioning and micro... lmfao funny

Anyways I thought if a simple guide like this was to be posted it would automatically be locked...
its already on youtube and liquipedia

EDIT: Wow didn't look at this date, whoever bumped this, thanks.
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
airtown
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States410 Posts
May 07 2010 01:23 GMT
#223
The walls for moon glaive at natural are out of date. Here are the ones that will work for the current version (all are zealot proof):

3oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


7oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


11oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
May 07 2010 02:49 GMT
#224
On May 07 2010 10:23 4iner wrote:
The walls for moon glaive at natural are out of date. Here are the ones that will work for the current version (all are zealot proof):

3oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


7oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


11oclock:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Much obliged, updated.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines755 Posts
May 12 2010 17:21 GMT
#225
needs a protoss version, since walls in pvz are natural now
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
May 12 2010 21:29 GMT
#226
On May 13 2010 02:21 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
needs a protoss version, since walls in pvz are natural now


Well I'm not going to spend my time doing that since I'm a Terran player but I can point you to where you can find most of the popular walls, although these aren't nearly as comprehensive or complete as my guide.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=62652
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_Fast_Expand_Forge_Walling
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
May 12 2010 21:48 GMT
#227
Well written and very educational. I really appreciate your time and effort put into this.
Keep up the good work !
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 19:03:18
June 24 2010 18:27 GMT
#228
Edit: I'm a retard.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
June 24 2010 18:34 GMT
#229
On June 25 2010 03:27 Papvin wrote:
Just wanna bump this to ask, why hasn't it been stickied ? Like in recommended threads.

It is in the recommended threads. Notice the "!" in front of the thread title, indicating its status as such.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
June 24 2010 19:03 GMT
#230
On June 25 2010 03:34 xmShake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 03:27 Papvin wrote:
Just wanna bump this to ask, why hasn't it been stickied ? Like in recommended threads.

It is in the recommended threads. Notice the "!" in front of the thread title, indicating its status as such.

I'm such a fucking moron, lol.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
Rio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
June 24 2010 23:35 GMT
#231
Nice
What ever ---------------------------------------------------™
Chunkybuddha
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada347 Posts
June 28 2010 05:29 GMT
#232
Is there anyway to make zergling proof walls on say, python or fighting spirit at your natural??
USER WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED FOR THIS POST.
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-28 05:35:20
June 28 2010 05:33 GMT
#233
On June 28 2010 14:29 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Is there anyway to make zergling proof walls on say, python or fighting spirit at your natural??


No, but if the Z is going all in ling you could just build a semi-wall with bunker/depot/ebay or something and fill holes and ramp with scv and tech up to firebat.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
Chunkybuddha
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada347 Posts
June 28 2010 15:57 GMT
#234
On June 28 2010 14:33 whitelynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 14:29 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Is there anyway to make zergling proof walls on say, python or fighting spirit at your natural??


No, but if the Z is going all in ling you could just build a semi-wall with bunker/depot/ebay or something and fill holes and ramp with scv and tech up to firebat.

I decided not to accept your answer and play around with walling.

Here is what I came up with, and should be added to the thread's guide...

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

USER WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED FOR THIS POST.
CraftyStars
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada47 Posts
July 06 2010 17:09 GMT
#235
Yay! Thank you! Reading this helped my vP and vZ games so much. Plus it amuses me to no end to see a zergling rush mill around uselessly outside of my base while my 'rines pick em off.
"The queen forces a creep tumor out of her bowels" WTF?! Gotta love the Zerg
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 06 2010 17:28 GMT
#236
On June 29 2010 00:57 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 14:33 whitelynx wrote:
On June 28 2010 14:29 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Is there anyway to make zergling proof walls on say, python or fighting spirit at your natural??


No, but if the Z is going all in ling you could just build a semi-wall with bunker/depot/ebay or something and fill holes and ramp with scv and tech up to firebat.

I decided not to accept your answer and play around with walling.

Here is what I came up with, and should be added to the thread's guide...

images


When on earth would you ever wall with CCs? Wtf?
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
airtown
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States410 Posts
July 06 2010 18:48 GMT
#237
On July 07 2010 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
When on earth would you ever wall with CCs? Wtf?

I believe a terran (leta?) did this once vs Kwanro. Too lazy to look up the game though.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 17:06:39
September 10 2010 16:01 GMT
#238
My attempts at walling in on the new proleague maps.

Aztec
+ Show Spoiler [8 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot Tight

+ Show Spoiler [12 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight

+ Show Spoiler [4 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight.


Bloody Ridge
+ Show Spoiler [2 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot Tight

+ Show Spoiler [2 'o clock Alternative] +
[image loading]
A ling tight wall for some fun cheeses ^^

+ Show Spoiler [7 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot and ling tight.

+ Show Spoiler [7 'o clock Alternative] +
[image loading]
A ling tight wall for some fun cheeses ^^


Benzene
+ Show Spoiler [2 'o clock] +
Somebody help me out here. A barracks or a supply depot on the left side will create a gap no matter what.

+ Show Spoiler [7 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Allows a little space for dragoons to gather, but otherwise zealot and ling tight.


Circuit Breakers
+ Show Spoiler [1 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight.

+ Show Spoiler [5 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight.

+ Show Spoiler [7 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight.

+ Show Spoiler [11 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight.


Empire of the Sun
+ Show Spoiler +
CANNOT WALL
Any building against the vertical portion of the wall surrounding your base will be passable.
+ Show Spoiler +
99% sure


Punchbowl Area
+ Show Spoiler [12 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight

+ Show Spoiler [3 'o clock] +
Don't have a good one.. but for now+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
three depots!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
three more depots... :/

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
fuu.. dunno if that'd actually be a wall though. all of these 3 depot walls are zeal tight


+ Show Spoiler [6 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight

+ Show Spoiler [9 'o clock] +
[image loading]
Zealot tight


If you have better walls, tell me and I'll update.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
September 11 2010 23:45 GMT
#239
On July 07 2010 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 00:57 Chunkybuddha wrote:
On June 28 2010 14:33 whitelynx wrote:
On June 28 2010 14:29 Chunkybuddha wrote:
Is there anyway to make zergling proof walls on say, python or fighting spirit at your natural??


No, but if the Z is going all in ling you could just build a semi-wall with bunker/depot/ebay or something and fill holes and ramp with scv and tech up to firebat.

I decided not to accept your answer and play around with walling.

Here is what I came up with, and should be added to the thread's guide...

images


When on earth would you ever wall with CCs? Wtf?


If you're playing on Blue Storm TvZ, and spawn at the 1 o'clock position, and you're trying to go 15cc, then you do this. You can try to wall-in with a rax and supply depot, but then you have to lift the rax to get marines back into your main, and that's a hassle. Much easier is to build the rax in your main, and make a ling tight wall with a supply depot and CC. Then, when your CC is finished and you have enough marines, you can move out and take your natural that way. Much simpler than the alternative.
안지호
Thoreezhea1
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 01:05:11
September 12 2010 01:01 GMT
#240
Yo dawg, I heard ya like spoila's so I put a spoiler in yo spoila in yo spoila in yo spoila so you can spoil and spoil while ya spoil yo spoila's while ya get get spoiled by yo spoila's.

Otherwise, very interesting, and will use in the future.
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