• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:04
CET 05:04
KST 13:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation13Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1978 users

Rush's Terran mining optimization guide

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 03 2022 18:16 GMT
#1


Subbed under cc
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 04 2022 06:33 GMT
#2
thank you so much for this
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland588 Posts
January 04 2022 08:27 GMT
#3
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
January 04 2022 11:31 GMT
#4
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.
-.-
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 14:50:46
January 04 2022 14:50 GMT
#5
On January 04 2022 20:31 MeSaber wrote:
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.

For each Mineral position there is a default behaviour that applies to most maps/positions. So these you can memorize as a general principle. It is important to note though that these vary between the races, so this guide is Terran specific only.
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
January 04 2022 19:05 GMT
#6
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 19:48:55
January 04 2022 19:46 GMT
#7
On January 05 2022 04:05 rararara wrote:
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?

I can tell you that single saturation mining rates between good and bad mineral lines can differ by up to 10%, and it's hard to actually get them equal within about 2%. Even without any serious pathfinding issues differences can easily ecxeed 5%. Terran building a Comsat can lead to up to about 20% losses in efficiency on right side Mineral formations, dependant on the Mineral layout, saturation and use of compensatory building placement.
The bottom line is: It is very significant.
2% mining difference over about 3 minutes creates a difference of about 3+ seconds. 3 seconds timing difference for one's first tech building is very noticeable for players.
Conversely, optimal worker management at the beginning of the game can probably net you 3 seconds, or more, of timing advantage.
AIs, which can constantly micro workers and exploit some game mechanics, can gain even vastly more significant advantages.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 04 2022 20:16 GMT
#8
for terran a really obvious example is if you get a really good mineral income you can place your supply depot at like 8.5 without skipping scvs and then you dont get supply blocked and your build is just soooo smooth

im real bad and i still can hit this sometimes, it makes a huge difference tbh
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 17:00:25
January 05 2022 16:59 GMT
#9
yes, I believe it - it's not a conspiracy

I was just wondering if someone measured the data.
Like how much minerals do you actually make more (ratio to time) and how does it snowball for the rest of the game, etc.


PS: never thought about the Comsat like that.. crazy thing!
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 10 2022 22:16 GMT
#10
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


in depth detailed Soma's zerg boosting will be subbed on his membership channel soon
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
January 11 2022 19:05 GMT
#11
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


contact me on discord if you need my help with protoss mining pathing optimization
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
ChoboTeamLeague
01:00
S33 Finals FxB vs Chumpions
PiGStarcraft422
Discussion
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #60
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft422
RuFF_SC2 150
Nathanias 74
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 62
Sexy 53
Noble 32
yabsab 27
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever573
NeuroSwarm105
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 735
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv206
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox521
Other Games
summit1g12073
Day[9].tv345
C9.Mang0305
Maynarde143
Trikslyr47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1040
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 73
• davetesta12
• Adnapsc2 4
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21429
League of Legends
• Rush816
• Stunt186
• Lourlo111
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur102
Other Games
• Scarra3225
• Day9tv345
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
7h 57m
BSL: GosuLeague
16h 57m
PiGosaur Cup
20h 57m
The PondCast
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Reynor
Maru vs SHIN
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
IPSL
5 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.