• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:36
CET 13:36
KST 21:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview3RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion3Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 104
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2215 users

Rush's Terran mining optimization guide

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1470 Posts
January 03 2022 18:16 GMT
#1


Subbed under cc
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
114 Posts
January 04 2022 06:33 GMT
#2
thank you so much for this
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland593 Posts
January 04 2022 08:27 GMT
#3
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
January 04 2022 11:31 GMT
#4
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.
-.-
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 14:50:46
January 04 2022 14:50 GMT
#5
On January 04 2022 20:31 MeSaber wrote:
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.

For each Mineral position there is a default behaviour that applies to most maps/positions. So these you can memorize as a general principle. It is important to note though that these vary between the races, so this guide is Terran specific only.
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
January 04 2022 19:05 GMT
#6
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 19:48:55
January 04 2022 19:46 GMT
#7
On January 05 2022 04:05 rararara wrote:
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?

I can tell you that single saturation mining rates between good and bad mineral lines can differ by up to 10%, and it's hard to actually get them equal within about 2%. Even without any serious pathfinding issues differences can easily ecxeed 5%. Terran building a Comsat can lead to up to about 20% losses in efficiency on right side Mineral formations, dependant on the Mineral layout, saturation and use of compensatory building placement.
The bottom line is: It is very significant.
2% mining difference over about 3 minutes creates a difference of about 3+ seconds. 3 seconds timing difference for one's first tech building is very noticeable for players.
Conversely, optimal worker management at the beginning of the game can probably net you 3 seconds, or more, of timing advantage.
AIs, which can constantly micro workers and exploit some game mechanics, can gain even vastly more significant advantages.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
114 Posts
January 04 2022 20:16 GMT
#8
for terran a really obvious example is if you get a really good mineral income you can place your supply depot at like 8.5 without skipping scvs and then you dont get supply blocked and your build is just soooo smooth

im real bad and i still can hit this sometimes, it makes a huge difference tbh
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 17:00:25
January 05 2022 16:59 GMT
#9
yes, I believe it - it's not a conspiracy

I was just wondering if someone measured the data.
Like how much minerals do you actually make more (ratio to time) and how does it snowball for the rest of the game, etc.


PS: never thought about the Comsat like that.. crazy thing!
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1470 Posts
January 10 2022 22:16 GMT
#10
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


in depth detailed Soma's zerg boosting will be subbed on his membership channel soon
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
January 11 2022 19:05 GMT
#11
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


contact me on discord if you need my help with protoss mining pathing optimization
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12:00
Bonus Cup #1
uThermal316
IndyStarCraft 233
SteadfastSC98
MindelVK26
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 410
uThermal 316
IndyStarCraft 233
Lowko160
SteadfastSC 98
BRAT_OK 79
MindelVK 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4804
Rain 2856
Horang2 962
EffOrt 712
BeSt 544
firebathero 265
ggaemo 232
Rush 213
Last 212
Hm[arnc] 201
[ Show more ]
Pusan 183
Killer 162
Zeus 130
Hyun 129
Mong 109
Aegong 100
JYJ 79
Barracks 77
Leta 76
Bonyth 74
Mind 51
Shuttle 47
Nal_rA 46
910 39
ToSsGirL 39
yabsab 36
Free 35
zelot 22
Sexy 21
Shine 19
GoRush 17
scan(afreeca) 14
Sacsri 13
Bale 13
SilentControl 12
HiyA 8
Terrorterran 7
Dota 2
Gorgc2927
XcaliburYe328
League of Legends
C9.Mang0375
rGuardiaN22
Counter-Strike
zeus933
oskar99
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor135
Other Games
singsing1964
B2W.Neo1127
Pyrionflax271
crisheroes241
Sick237
Fuzer 39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2235
StarCraft 2
WardiTV952
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1692
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
7h 24m
BSL 21
7h 24m
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
All-Star Invitational
13h 39m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 24m
OSC
23h 24m
BSL 21
1d 7h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.