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Rush's Terran mining optimization guide

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1456 Posts
January 03 2022 18:16 GMT
#1


Subbed under cc
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 04 2022 06:33 GMT
#2
thank you so much for this
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland582 Posts
January 04 2022 08:27 GMT
#3
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
January 04 2022 11:31 GMT
#4
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.
-.-
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 14:50:46
January 04 2022 14:50 GMT
#5
On January 04 2022 20:31 MeSaber wrote:
Wouldnt it be easier to just test it per map?

You will have to learn the quirks anyway as its not as simple as putting worker on mineral in most cases.

For each Mineral position there is a default behaviour that applies to most maps/positions. So these you can memorize as a general principle. It is important to note though that these vary between the races, so this guide is Terran specific only.
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
January 04 2022 19:05 GMT
#6
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-04 19:48:55
January 04 2022 19:46 GMT
#7
On January 05 2022 04:05 rararara wrote:
how much of a difference does mining optimization actually make?
did someone measure it?

I can tell you that single saturation mining rates between good and bad mineral lines can differ by up to 10%, and it's hard to actually get them equal within about 2%. Even without any serious pathfinding issues differences can easily ecxeed 5%. Terran building a Comsat can lead to up to about 20% losses in efficiency on right side Mineral formations, dependant on the Mineral layout, saturation and use of compensatory building placement.
The bottom line is: It is very significant.
2% mining difference over about 3 minutes creates a difference of about 3+ seconds. 3 seconds timing difference for one's first tech building is very noticeable for players.
Conversely, optimal worker management at the beginning of the game can probably net you 3 seconds, or more, of timing advantage.
AIs, which can constantly micro workers and exploit some game mechanics, can gain even vastly more significant advantages.
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
January 04 2022 20:16 GMT
#8
for terran a really obvious example is if you get a really good mineral income you can place your supply depot at like 8.5 without skipping scvs and then you dont get supply blocked and your build is just soooo smooth

im real bad and i still can hit this sometimes, it makes a huge difference tbh
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-05 17:00:25
January 05 2022 16:59 GMT
#9
yes, I believe it - it's not a conspiracy

I was just wondering if someone measured the data.
Like how much minerals do you actually make more (ratio to time) and how does it snowball for the rest of the game, etc.


PS: never thought about the Comsat like that.. crazy thing!
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1456 Posts
January 10 2022 22:16 GMT
#10
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


in depth detailed Soma's zerg boosting will be subbed on his membership channel soon
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
January 11 2022 19:05 GMT
#11
On January 04 2022 17:27 Bonyth wrote:
Jinjin can you find me a protoss one? No translation is fine.


contact me on discord if you need my help with protoss mining pathing optimization
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
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