EPTWhat to do in zvt against terran mech?
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
If you're just pumping mutas you should have plenty of minerals for like 30 lings You could also tech to ultra/ling because goliaths are very weak vs ultras. | ||
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Polemarch
Canada1564 Posts
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intelinside
United States982 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32278 Posts
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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MIStrZZZ
Poland62 Posts
I think ling 3/3 + adrenal + eventually ultras would pwnage those gols, but hidras 3/3 arent bad too | ||
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
if he moves out counter his main. you should be able to take more expos than him. dont fight his army without sunk support. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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Brutalisk
794 Posts
And try to tech to defilers soon, and get plague (don't bother with swarm, unless you decided to get more lings/hydras/lurkers/ultras). | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
As stated by just about everyone, go muta/ling. Don't really bother with lurkers because gols can really more or less just lol all over them. | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Swarm/plauge is very awsome, but remember that a good mech user will add m&mf if he scans defilers or get tank heavy. They should also have at least 3 science vessels making mutas worse becouse of irraditate. Zerglings are rather bad after a certain point, when he's to big basically, rely more on sunkens and expos to waste his time walking around the map and making him open for mutalisk harass/backdoor. Be very drone heavy. Remember to upgrade your mutas, having 1-1 vs 0-0 is a huge diffrence, don't be the guy with 0-0. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20160 Posts
early/mid=mutaling later=muta/hydra/DEFILER | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
My guess is it would do ok? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20160 Posts
On May 13 2007 09:54 SuperJongMan wrote: How does ling/hydra fare vs Goli? My guess is it would do ok? bad unless defiler then good | ||
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On May 13 2007 05:43 unknown.sam wrote: mutaling for sure...golies dont do shit against mutas...so you got the mutas taking all the damage, while you have lings finishing the golies O Rly? | ||
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QuietIdiot
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Last Romantic
United States20664 Posts
YellOw vs BoxeR is a better example of muta vs goli. It's from Superfight 1; YellOw doesn't actually engage in huge battles, he just goes around and kills random scvs, turrets, depots, outlier goliaths, all the while expanding to every gas multi. BoxeR wanders around trying to defend everywhere, but because golis are so slow and ungainly, he can't. Eventually YellOw just gets critical mutalisk mass, adds in a few queens, and goes all in to infest -_-; incidentally, muta/queen is quite good. It's one less mutalisk per queen, but ensnare is good, and infest means you only have to do half as much damage to a cc to kill it. | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
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[jOyO]
United States920 Posts
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
edit: goliath OWN muta.. small numbers no, larger numbers (whats important) yes. | ||
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YoUr_KiLLeR
United States3420 Posts
On May 13 2007 11:50 [jOyO] wrote: Early goliaths is easily beaten because you can get 12 or so ling with your initial muta force and kill 10-15 gols. If the terran fast expoed into goliath and you didn't kill him you better scramble to out-expo him or you are going to get hit hard. And as a side note, goliaths with the range upgrade can kill mutalisks if there are like 5-10 more gols than mutas. Watch out for bat/medic/goliath, that shit will kick your ass. watch out for bc/carrier combo too. one time that owned me so hard. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
On May 13 2007 13:01 Reason wrote: bat medic goliath? lol. edit: goliath OWN muta.. small numbers no, larger numbers (whats important) yes. you've certainly have not played very much this game. Muta > Goliath. and if you get large numbers, then you can leave the base without risking it to be obliterated. mobility > goliaths | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Pads
England3228 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Muta ling can work but meh. Either mutas + all expands. Or Muta + hydralisk. It is very efficient and you can kill a terran with almost equal minerals with it. (Muta hydra) I say almost because there is a point once terran gets a certain number of tanks that you will go more heavily into mutas and you will need a lot more minerals. They won't have gas for anything else on most maps, as most mech users only have their natural. So too many tanks = muta death. Too few tanks = muta + hydra death. | ||
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
I like to fast expand with 2 armories and pump goliaths, mixing in tanks if they heavy hydra/lurker. I do not lose to mutalisks, or their mobility. | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
one more question, on maps where the mineral only can be easily taken (LT, Longinus, etc) , i have big troubles outexpo the terran as a 3 base terran can max 200/200 really quick, and the maps make harrasing difficult as he doesn't really need mobility just sitting at home. do i just leave him alone and focus on macro or is there some harrassing techniques against a defensive guy? the big puch of the first 40 golies usually take me out..>.< | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On May 13 2007 13:01 Reason wrote: bat medic goliath? lol. My idea, don't u dare steal it | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
At the T player, that is. | ||
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wXs.Havok
Argentina529 Posts
Now, its easier to macro from 2 bases than those 5 bases u getting =P. Get the mayor ammount of geysers. Try harassing all the time, he wont have the mobility of the marines. Do it till u get muta/ling or hydras upgrades. You can also lurk tech while muta/ling just for some drops, not something like getting 10 lurkers and going to the front. MECH UNITS are very strong, so you must realize that if u let him do whatever he wants, he will end up beating you. Mech units can also mean some valkyries (rarely used but very effective) so you better scout his ass all the time. Ensare and Plague will rule his ass. Yes, you have to break your ass to beat the mecha. But you have to break your ass to beat marines and medics so ... its just like another MU you have to add =P | ||
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