I will try your idea on ICCup! [PART 2]
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Project 27: TvZ (Bio) Instead of getting siege upgrade and tanks, get vult upgrades instead (mines and then speed). I'd imagine this would require a much higher micro ability, and would get owned bad if he got ovie speed really fast for no reason, but I'm curious to see what would happen if a player of your ability tried to pull it off. First Impression: I don't see the point of vultures, since it'd get eaten alive from lurkers. Vultures can't kill lurkers that are burrowed or break sunken lines... Results pending Vultures + mines has become pretty standard it TvZ :O | ||
soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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brolaf
291 Posts
On September 15 2012 20:36 endy wrote: Vultures + mines has become pretty standard it TvZ :O yeah and they are pretty good against lurks actually. theyre cheap as dirt, can get into position (spread around lurks) quickly to avoid heavy splash damage and against medium size lurks their damage is OK given how cheap they are. | ||
Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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tryummm
774 Posts
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
1. SCV Rush 2. Midgame SCV harass a base in a TvT 3. Go carriers in a PvP Any of the three will do. | ||
krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
Use scourge to kill overlords, supply blocking him while you tech to hive :D PvT Sair/Reaver PvP Must build DA, feedback his HT. Bonus points: Mindcontrol shuttle with reaver. | ||
sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
For the challenge, I challenge you to do 2 port wraith into 2 base BC rush. You may build marines but they must not leave your base so it's for protection only! You may only build 24 wraith in total and rest of offensive units must be BC and SV (D-Matrix only) | ||
dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
On September 16 2012 00:14 tryummm wrote: I challenge you to play a completely optimal PvT game where you play macro oriented and hit all the timings as professional players, and still win. I have yet seen a foreign player pull this one off, so good luck to you. lol must suck to be this nerd, he's always so angry :p. Can't believe you won the tvp after fail fbat drops For pvz you can do 2 robo 1 base with shuttle speed, should try it out, gotta manage well with scouting to not die to two hatch muta | ||
Release
United States4397 Posts
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3128 Posts
Finish him off with hidden 3 port wraith. EDIT: It might work better with a proxy 8 rax opening. and only one rax total. How you want to do it is up to you. | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
Strat: 9h9p9o, hatch being in opponent's natural, follow up with sunken contain, get hydras and spores before he gets mutas, follow up with ensnare and eventually plague and dark swarm. Effects: The player will BM you, claim that he had sex with your mother and you like dudes, whisper you after the game etc etc. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
proxy hatch in his base. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
ZvP, proxy hatch in their base while u 9 pool. :D | ||
aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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asiantraceur
United States94 Posts
On September 17 2012 14:18 aRyuujin wrote: MC'd an SCV t Have you seen royal stove? the rest of your idea isnt related to Royal Stove but its a really funny build you should check it out | ||
Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
If you wanna try a build of mine which actually worked untill I met C and higher players, open up 3hatch ZvT, as you normally would (overpool / 12hatch both works) When you workers start mining gas you instantly throw down an evo chamber for +1 armor. With your next 100 gas you get ling speed and then lair with the next 100. When you've saturated ur mineral lines you start pumping lings (14-16) and be bat shit aggressive with em, kill off initial mnm groups When lair is half way done you throw down a hydra den and start lurkers when lair finishes (throw down second gas when lurker tech is started). Throw 4th hatch at your third or as a macro hatch depending on how much damage your zergling did, drone up a little so you can saturate 4 hatch production and move into hydralurker tech. When you start hive you should be aiming for a hydra / guard / lurker / ling combination. Mineral onlys are welcome candidates as your hydra / ling / lurk midgame army is really midgame heavy if you 12 hatch put down a evo chamber somewhere before +1 carapace finishes and get +1 ranged attack. it works really nicely and it's alot of fun to do even if I dont really do it anymore as pure hydra lurk builds work better vs C/C+ guys on the right maps :p | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
On September 17 2012 15:12 asiantraceur wrote: Have you seen royal stove? the rest of your idea isnt related to Royal Stove but its a really funny build you should check it out omg no fun build thread is complete without the stove ![]() try to get a friend to replicate free vs hiya? :D | ||
Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + and then do it again with zerg or toss cause scvs op. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
On September 18 2012 06:01 Kal_rA wrote: Win a game with only workers. + Show Spoiler + and then do it again with zerg or toss cause scvs op. u never said couldnt do ZvP or PvZ or mirror Heh. | ||
HaFnium
United Kingdom1074 Posts
4@hatch + 1 before lair, just use lots of hydras then maybe tech to hive then get queens and defilers | ||
amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On September 18 2012 06:01 Kal_rA wrote: Win a game with only workers. + Show Spoiler + and then do it again with zerg or toss cause scvs op. Okay ^ If you do choose to watch this for the love of god 16x it until like a minute or three before the end. Obviously the fact I was able to do this meant the other guy was absurdly terrible. | ||
Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
Want him to do it vs a better player though. Would be sooo hard. | ||
ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On September 18 2012 12:37 L_Master wrote: Okay ^ If you do choose to watch this for the love of god 16x it until like a minute or three before the end. Obviously the fact I was able to do this meant the other guy was absurdly terrible. Raiden: 17 apm LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
I'dl like to see a build that i done a lot on bnet (not iCcup). It's ZvP. I called this "burrow rush". You get burrow before speed (2player map only i think) and you go straight for the throat. You separate your lings in his base (attack a pylon, probes, or nexus) when reacting. Immediatly burrow. (you'll have some lings rallied and attack something else with them). Unburrow lings that have nothing on top of them(like a zealot). Burrow when zealots or probes approach and unburrow the second (or third or whatever groupe). If you pull this off, you are gonna have to support a lot of rage/bm because it's a retarded build (and risky but funny). I hope i explained it well. That's not really micro heavy. If he is doing zealot block (at ramp) bring a drone and mineral pass them. When i played BW i remebered it separated the zelot(s) and you can pass your lings inside. But i don't know if you can still do that. On September 18 2012 01:52 FlaShFTW wrote: Have you seen royal stove? the rest of your idea isnt related to Royal Stove but its a really funny build you should check it out Wait ? What ? A ROYAL stove ? do you have a link. The stove was one of the most funny build to do as P Also... On September 18 2012 12:35 amazingxkcd wrote: ZvP go Mass queens with broodlord backup BroodLords in BW ? you mean guardians right ? | ||
Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On September 18 2012 12:35 amazingxkcd wrote: ZvP go Mass queens with broodlord backup Also you know that queens in BW are non-attacking caster units with no destructive spells other than spawn broodling? What is going to protect you against anything that flies and attacks? Spore colonies? | ||
Garmer
1286 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On September 19 2012 23:50 Djagulingu wrote: Also you know that queens in BW are non-attacking caster units with no destructive spells other than spawn broodling? What is going to protect you against anything that flies and attacks? Spore colonies? I know. Lots and Lots of Spawn Broodlings ![]() | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10176 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:22 amazingxkcd wrote: I know. Lots and Lots of Spawn Broodlings ![]() so basically turn BW queens into SC2 broodlords that kill target on impact? YES PLEASE | ||
CursOr
United States6335 Posts
wrong thread :/ | ||
RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On September 20 2012 01:22 amazingxkcd wrote: I know. Lots and Lots of Spawn Broodlings ![]() However, a single scout will kill this strategy so badly. | ||
FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On September 20 2012 21:38 Djagulingu wrote: However, a single scout will kill this strategy so badly. Sure but you have to keep in mind something... No one make scouts even if that's the only unit that you can produce... Or they are doing the stove and anyway you are screwd (unless you do the canon build :p (don't remember the name of this great strategy)). | ||
Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 20 2012 21:38 Djagulingu wrote: However, a single scout will kill this strategy so badly. Ensnare, then fly away. teehee. | ||
Garmer
1286 Posts
SK Terran in TVP and add fast ghost tech with lockdown | ||
3FFA
United States3931 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
Project 29: ZvZ How about queens to support Scourges? I'm pretty sure Zero did this in some game that he won. Ensnared the mutas. | ||
RageCommodore
Germany912 Posts
Edit: you can add range goliaths if Wraiths/ Valks get destroyed too badly. | ||
sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
Even if he does this, we'll have to wait till Christmas to see them :/ | ||
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