EPTand whats the normal average time that protoss can get to 200.
200 at 15 min isnt bad. right?
pvt how fast can protoss get to 200 supply
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teamliquid2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
and whats the normal average time that protoss can get to 200. 200 at 15 min isnt bad. right? | ||
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sTrAtO
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SadFriend
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Unfortunately I waited 30 seconds to attack (probably because I didn't have an obs handy..) and testie maxed (almost) in the meantime.. So terran limit > toss limit ;p | ||
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
Testie went all out macro-whore and maxxed in 13:00 I think? | ||
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QuietIdiot
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ygor
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Night[Mare
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hasuwar
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On December 27 2005 08:21 FrozenArbiter wrote: rep upload :pFastest I've maxed was 12:40. Unfortunately I waited 30 seconds to attack (probably because I didn't have an obs handy..) and testie maxed (almost) in the meantime.. So terran limit > toss limit ;p | ||
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Chris307
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In an actual game though, probably about 13 minutes without much interaction between the players, 14 minutes with moderate interaction, right up to never with more interaction | ||
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dancefayedance
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On December 27 2005 07:31 SadFriend wrote: The fastest protoss can max with/out harass, is 10-11minutes..the fastest, with killing 40 terran supply and loseing some of your own is 12 by Pusan[S.G] and i have rep if you want to watch it with me on east :D could u send it for me ? bogrepumpa@yahoo.com | ||
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Broken.Mind
United States364 Posts
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
Terran cant max at 11 if they are playing anyone thats not a bgh newb playing their first game on temple so i would never believe that boxer maxed at 11, especially since his macro is terrible. However, TL.net member Pumpkin got to 98 supply at 9 minutes and 123 at 10 with terran with a normal fast expo build which was pretty impressive. Most decent protoss would get rolled by that at 10. Havnt seen too many foreign terrans do that. And protoss can't max in 10-11 in a competitive game. Just not possible. Typically a decent protoss would be around 100 at 10 and most good ones are closer to 120 or higher if they dont reaver or DT. BaSs got to 132 at 10 on luna once, thats the best ive ever seen. At times he has scary macro but he's inconsistent a lot of the time. | ||
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uT)Murray
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
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skyglow1
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LostDevil
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Chris307
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Chris307
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Not easier, just faster | ||
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MyTHicaL
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iNcontroL
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I think real standard for maxing 200/200 is around 15 min. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 27 2005 17:22 MyTHicaL wrote: and u cant do that on maps like nos why? nqt has no gas, therefore more vultures, therefore harass | ||
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LostDevil
Fiji283 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
i want to see a "normal" game in which the toss is maxed at 13min | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On December 27 2005 17:48 LostDevil wrote: you can expo before robo on any map really. it causes a lot of problems on temple and forte though Early expo before robo as toss on LT is really just a huge gamble that he's 1 fact cc'ing, else you're in deep shit should he decide to early offensive / cliff. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 27 2005 18:19 wasted wrote: this thread needs some reps! i want to see a "normal" game in which the toss is maxed at 13min http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0O2HWMK77ULNY1H13XQ3HR1VFJ Not a terribly good game tho, waiting with attacking kinda ruined the effect for me, and well, testie is better than me - especially when it comes to PvT. | ||
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Fayth[pG]
Canada1093 Posts
On December 27 2005 08:21 FrozenArbiter wrote: Fastest I've maxed was 12:40. Unfortunately I waited 30 seconds to attack (probably because I didn't have an obs handy..) and testie maxed (almost) in the meantime.. So terran limit > toss limit ;p you tried that too with testie?  doesn't work so well indeed | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
 It could have worked if I attacked immediately but -,-r I need to stop posting and go to bed-.- | ||
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RiSE
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TeRRan`UseR
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ReTr0[p.S]
Argentina1590 Posts
On December 27 2005 15:02 LostDevil wrote: and one less at ure expo. temple has 8 at both. hes probably just implying that its because terrans never attack and just turtle to take their 2nd nat and sit around all game till they are 200/200 with 2-2 grades. therefore u dont need to worry about harass. yet most terrans play like that on every map now. we should kill all terrans that do that, fucking lammers T_T | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
I have not played in awile but ill try to post some reps tom. Watch pusan and anytime. | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On December 27 2005 21:20 ReTr0[p.S] wrote: we should kill all terrans that do that, fucking lammers T_T Nothing lame about it man. If they're doing that you don't have to attack. Expo whore anyone? Just play even more lame, like a Zerg player. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On December 27 2005 20:05 FrozenArbiter wrote: Yeah It......-.- On December 27 2005 20:16 RiSE wrote: ...swede On December 27 2005 20:34 TeRRan`UseR wrote: ...depos .On December 27 2005 21:20 ReTr0[p.S] wrote: ...lammers T_T Then manblue comes along and: On December 27 2005 22:05 ManaBlue wrote: ...player. | ||
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ManaBlue
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Chris307
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Chris307
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I know Eri is fallible and ManaBlue is a douche | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On December 27 2005 23:20 Chris307 wrote: I'm not fooled though I know Eri is fallible and ManaBlue is a douche edit: thats my favorite smiley. | ||
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DuDe[DarK]
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Liquid`RaSZi
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Response
United States1936 Posts
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Future_sc
United States783 Posts
On December 27 2005 08:21 FrozenArbiter wrote: Fastest I've maxed was 12:40. Unfortunately I waited 30 seconds to attack (probably because I didn't have an obs handy..) and testie maxed (almost) in the meantime.. So terran limit > toss limit ;p yeah hell i think if terran is 170+ it will own any maxed protoss ground attack | ||
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GoTuNk~~
Chile40 Posts
On December 28 2005 12:25 Future wrote: yeah hell i think if terran is 170+ it will own any maxed protoss ground attack i've got a replay from anytime where he completely owned with ground units a 3-3 200//200 terran. Templars are they key | ||
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Chris307
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On December 28 2005 10:47 GoSuPlAyEr wrote: i gott-a question about the macro thing tho...can you macro faster if you go 3 gates then double expand then more gates or like 1-2 gates then double expand then add more gates?? i cant figure out which way macro's faster... Macro is always best with earliest possible expansions | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
On December 28 2005 10:47 GoSuPlAyEr wrote: i gott-a question about the macro thing tho...can you macro faster if you go 3 gates then double expand then more gates or like 1-2 gates then double expand then add more gates?? i cant figure out which way macro's faster... Basically, first way more battle untis earlier, second way more battle units later. I think thats the best, simplest way to describe this becuase your not clear on your concept of 'macro' or 'macro faster.' So question remain...whats fastest time to 200 on LT? This is presumabley with just probe/nex/plyon. As for standard play I suppose ~12:30 is close to the limit on LT. 2gategoonrangerobho,~5:30expo,~8:30expo, speedzeal, goons, temps. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
http://www.sclegacy.com/features/hall_of_fame.php 8:36 for toss, 8:58 for terran, 9:45 as zerg Fastest turbonewbie is 5:32 =) | ||
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Chris307
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On December 28 2005 14:53 GrandInquisitor wrote: All time records: http://www.sclegacy.com/features/hall_of_fame.php 8:36 for toss, 8:58 for terran, 9:45 as zerg Fastest turbonewbie is 5:32 =) I was waiting for somebody to pull this up. | ||
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Chris307
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I sent XG3 a replay of me maxing as Terran on LT in like 9 minutes something seconds to see if he wanted it as a Hot Replay and he made a gauntlet out of it. | ||
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iG....CoolT
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teamliquid2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
how many gates are the most effective. and what are the expo timing? | ||
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Knickknack
United States1187 Posts
also i remember this anytme rep: http://yaoyuan.com/show.php?SID=28759 when i played 6months ago or so i would usually see pusan max at around 14:00...mabey hes faster now. But, as far as standard play i typed that ~12:30 is the fastest...if you can double expo off of 1gate of course that may be better. | ||
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iOwnToyland1
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Vs a Computer on Lt I've maxed in 11minutes, but that's 4nexus before gateways, some cannons for D, although I did also tech. So I imagine ~10minutes is possible if you just Probe Zlot. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On June 18 2022 08:11 iOwnToyland1 wrote: Bisu maxed vs (who??) In the playoff brackets of one of the last couple ASLs in circa 11 minutes, with tech (obviously) then attacked all in. Unfortunately it was into a heavily fortified position and he traded poorly, eventually losing the game. It was impressive AF. Vs a Computer on Lt I've maxed in 11minutes, but that's 4nexus before gateways, some cannons for D, although I did also tech. So I imagine ~10minutes is possible if you just Probe Zlot. vs Light on Monopoly in the semi-finals of ASL13 | ||
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EndingLife
United States1594 Posts
You don’t really need more than 3 bases to max fast, just the right prioritization of gateway units and probes. I’ve seen larva max in like 9-10 minutes with 2 bases and zealots only. | ||
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Highgamer
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zimp
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