EPTTerran vs ALL Zealot Protoss - Page 2
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PurePwnageofTerran
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ArvickHero
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:59 elmerpogs wrote: Hi, Im Elmer, I love playing broodwar with my friends on LAN. I can play all races but with my TvP, im really having trouble with my Protoss opponent producing only zealots.We dont use air units (our agreement on every game).My question would be... How do i counter this all zealot attacks.What land units best counters zealot attacks?Good number of goolies and vults and tanks? Truthfully man, don't listen to a lot of these people. If you don't wall and don't scout the two gate, it's "VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE" to hold at the highest levels. The usual timing of the 2 gateway zealot will hit around the time your getting out your second marine and have just started your factory (assuming it's at 15/18) The first center pylon should start building around 1:15. 1 Zealot is capable of taking out 3 Marine but you will have 2 Zealot at your base and your factory won't be near completion for you to have vulture, let alone mines to deal with it. I've countered it without blocking before by immediately producing a second barrack instead of a factory, building an academy and keeping my marine inside my mineral line until I had enough M&M to push out. But, even that wasn't very effective because the protoss can easily switch to storm or expand and make photon cannon to defend it whilst getting ahead in economy. There are three options you could take: 1. Blocking (Walling off) 2. Putting a few SCV on the ramp and lifting your barrack over them after the first Marine is produced (if the attack doesn't hit before then). However, this requires a lot of skill to do given the amount of time you have to do it... 3. Scout it and react accordingly But, if you don't scout it and you don't wall, your pretty much screwed. Trust me | ||
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CaffeineFree-_-
United States712 Posts
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elmerpogs
Philippines441 Posts
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dongfeng
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Biff The Understudy
France7858 Posts
On January 09 2012 21:46 dongfeng wrote: u should play vs comp the comp has a 3 gate zeal timing rush with about ~12 zeals reasonably early It's very late. You have time to have 2 facts, 6 vulture and mines by the time he attacks you. If you lay mine in front of your base you don't even have to patrol micro him to death since he suicides his whole zealot army in your mines. | ||
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ArcTimes
Peru269 Posts
On January 09 2012 23:05 Biff The Understudy wrote: It's very late. You have time to have 2 facts, 6 vulture and mines by the time he attacks you. If you lay mine in front of your base you don't even have to patrol micro him to death since he suicides his whole zealot army in your mines. Yes, but he said he is playing only lan. Maybe his friend is slower that the comp xd. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7858 Posts
On January 09 2012 23:24 ArcTimes wrote: Yes, but he said he is playing only lan. Maybe his friend is slower that the comp xd. Then no need to theorycraft at all. Just build vulture, mine in front of your base, let him die, gg. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3126 Posts
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On January 10 2012 08:21 puppykiller wrote: dude mass zealot is impossible to beat. I think I demonstrated this in my game vs Mani. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjsdatnJwc&list=PL1474B821E748CEC3&index=3&feature=plcp lol, all you had to do was wall off your nat with like e-bays and stuff when you scouted it and you win | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On January 08 2012 02:59 FabledIntegral wrote: Mass vulture or marine medic firebat. Go upgrade heavy. Build bunkers. Don't build any tanks or goliaths, why would you need them? Mass wraiths to counter. Win game.  | ||
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mtwow789
67 Posts
On January 10 2012 08:21 puppykiller wrote: dude mass zealot is impossible to beat. I think I demonstrated this in my game vs Mani. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjsdatnJwc&list=PL1474B821E748CEC3&index=3&feature=plcp well it does counter terran who doesn't block entrance AND goes fast expansion. Seriously, I thought blocking entrance is standard for siege expand? Also, I think going tank mode and have scv blocking entrance was better response. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7858 Posts
On January 10 2012 08:21 puppykiller wrote: dude mass zealot is impossible to beat. I think I demonstrated this in my game vs Mani. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjsdatnJwc&list=PL1474B821E748CEC3&index=3&feature=plcp I think Mani's counter was pretty good + Show Spoiler + You have been temp banned for 2 days. Reason: Don't play PvT like a jerk | ||
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JameS_dodo
New Zealand9 Posts
On January 10 2012 08:21 puppykiller wrote: dude mass zealot is impossible to beat. I think I demonstrated this in my game vs Mani. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjsdatnJwc&list=PL1474B821E748CEC3&index=3&feature=plcp you'll prob lose to 2gate goons as well if u fe like that assuming that ur expecting mass zealots, just wall off + repair and you pretty much won the game | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On January 10 2012 20:19 JameS_dodo wrote: you'll prob lose to 2gate goons as well if u fe like that assuming that ur expecting mass zealots, just wall off + repair and you pretty much won the game Even so, the wrong response was to siege. He could have just walled the ramp with SCVs, and had all his units behind it meaning he would have to target fire every SCV. Even better, float a building over the top and zealots just herp derp till they die. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
build firebats, medics, and marines instead, in ratio of possibly 2:1:1, that should literally roast any zealot army... | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10097 Posts
On January 10 2012 08:21 puppykiller wrote: dude mass zealot is impossible to beat. I think I demonstrated this in my game vs Mani. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjsdatnJwc&list=PL1474B821E748CEC3&index=3&feature=plcp Very easy to fend off. simple wall in with bunker, rax, and ebay! or you could be a fag and park 2 scvs at your ramp with a rax/ebay floating on top of it and unseige ur tanks so zealots cant kill the scvs and you kill the zealots behind ur scv wall :D | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
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