EPT! [G] 12 Hatch Zerg Guide - Page 3
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
On June 08 2006 12:03 tKd_ wrote: if he goes fast expand zvz does 3 hatch really work? I would think it would work if you do mass ling style instead of focusing on muta. The way I see it zvz goes like this: if he does fast tech you can mass ling to win or cripple him. If he does fast expand and you have done fast tech you can still win with some ling pressure. zvz can take advantage of both extremes, but someone clarify =/ Put it this way, if he 12 hatchs expands vs your 12 hatch main, he can do the EXACT SAME thing as you, though he has to look after his nat hatch, if you mass lings he can make just as many, though he will probably 1-2 sunk and pump some drones, and your tech wont' be faster than his and he will have 2 gas. And if he scouts you without drones on gas its basically GG as he pums extra lings +more sunks and when he gets 2-3 muta he has map control. IMO its hard to 12 hatch main vs 12 hatch expand, the thing to do is make him sunk up and expand yourself, the 3 hatch solution also allows you to reasonably mass lings without him being able to counter easily | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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crazie-penguin
United States1253 Posts
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
On July 01 2005 21:59 exalted wrote: If Player A and Player B have identical macro/micro ability, when Player A attacks Player B he will lose, every single time. Except for that whole "strategy" thing. Like positioning of attack, higher ground, better attack micro than defense micro, HAVING A BIGGER FORCE, HAVING DIFFERENT UNITS, HAVING UPGRADES, etc. There are countless variables that would make player A have an advantage over player B. If what you're saying is true, the only way to win in SC against a player of your skill level would be to never initiate an attack until they attacked first. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
On June 08 2006 23:49 ZaplinG wrote: I've made a public account for all to use. Name: TeamLiquid Password: 1a2a3a Heh, I thought I saw that account  Like 1023492942 people joined since this guide has been bumped @_@ and I think with the big guide more people will be reading at the same time. Its not that hard to sign up here.  | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
On June 08 2006 12:10 Slayer91 wrote: Put it this way, if he 12 hatchs expands vs your 12 hatch main, he can do the EXACT SAME thing as you, though he has to look after his nat hatch, if you mass lings he can make just as many, though he will probably 1-2 sunk and pump some drones, and your tech wont' be faster than his and he will have 2 gas. And if he scouts you without drones on gas its basically GG as he pums extra lings +more sunks and when he gets 2-3 muta he has map control. IMO its hard to 12 hatch main vs 12 hatch expand, the thing to do is make him sunk up and expand yourself, the 3 hatch solution also allows you to reasonably mass lings without him being able to counter easily This is not a small factor. Dividing your defences puts too much stress on your already small army. A rushing zerg can crush this. If you can stop his lings from running past your expo into your main, then go for it. Otherwise, it is safer to do it in base. | ||
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
On June 09 2006 02:37 ZaplinG wrote: This is not a small factor. Dividing your defences puts too much stress on your already small army. A rushing zerg can crush this. If you can stop his lings from running past your expo into your main, then go for it. Otherwise, it is safer to do it in base. It's not a problem in the majority of maps, you can easily cover your ramp and your nat hatch and drones all at once in maps such as RushHour, LT and also Luna in a couple of positions. It's especially easy to defend an expand in 12 hatch exp v 12 hatch main games on these maps, however in 12 hatch exp v 12 pool->speed upgrade then the 12 pooler maybe able to take advantage of the situation even on maps like LT,Rushhour etc. In other maps, such as r-point for example then this may be a more significant factor, and this is why pool -> expo or 12 hatch expo builds are popular in maps like RushHour and not in maps like R-Point. | ||
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osmark
Austria15 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
"damn another zerg guide -.-" epic bumpage | ||
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mSLeGenD
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 !oh well, welcome to TL I guess. | ||
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