EPTCloneing Units
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BloodOfAChamp
United States266 Posts
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St0ry
United States38 Posts
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dork
Canada2207 Posts
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
i thought stacking on top of each other was... stacking... | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
Im not sure if this was any help to u but as far as i know that is what cloning is about. GL ! | ||
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dork
Canada2207 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
i just call it "seperation" | ||
Smurg
Australia3818 Posts
It works with a lot of things, cloning is mostly seen during a match with scourges. | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On March 05 2005 19:29 BloodOfAChamp wrote: For me clone = stacking on top of each other. Am i right? If so how do you do it? I keep hearing people say clone scvs and wriaths, but what does that mean? what exactly are u talking about?? clone isnt stacking on top of each other -_- are u referrin to High Templar's hallucination or as in scourage-kill-vesssels thing? I don't get why u would clone wraiths ;; | ||
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BloodOfAChamp
United States266 Posts
On March 05 2005 20:21 OneOther wrote: here is what i have heard cloning to irradiate a group of zerg units. clone 3 scv scout to find out where zergs army is. For wriath i think that maybe you cant target more of them scorges fly into 1 of them.what exactly are u talking about?? clone isnt stacking on top of each other -_- are u referrin to High Templar's hallucination or as in scourage-kill-vesssels thing? I don't get why u would clone wraiths ;; | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On March 05 2005 20:32 BloodOfAChamp wrote: here is what i have heard cloning to irradiate a group of zerg units. clone 3 scv scout to find out where zergs army is. For wriath i think that maybe you cant target more of them scorges fly into 1 of them. What...? Is it me that can't really comprehend or is it you with bad grammar? -_- | ||
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
On March 05 2005 20:38 OneOther wrote: What...? Is it me that can't really comprehend or is it you with bad grammar? -_- It's you because I can understand it. He means cloning irradiate to irradiate multiple units. Cloning 3 SCV to all scout the other bases(I'm assuming 3 SCV for LT) And to stack all your Wraith together so it's harder for your opponent to hit more than 1 of your Wraith at a time. | ||
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On March 05 2005 20:41 CyuntiyuL wrote: It's you because I can understand it. He means cloning irradiate to irradiate multiple units. Cloning 3 SCV to all scout the other bases(I'm assuming 3 SCV for LT) And to stack all your Wraith together so it's harder for your opponent to hit more than 1 of your Wraith at a time. Well that wraith part was especially hard to understand. Oh and by the way, how is stacking wraiths "cloning". That's simply stacking not cloning ;; | ||
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
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stimpack[pG]
Philippines88 Posts
and the thing about iradiating difrent zerg units at one time? howd u do that? | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On March 05 2005 21:18 stimpack[pG] wrote: what the hell is cloning? the only thing that is cloning is through hallucination... and the thing about iradiating difrent zerg units at one time? howd u do that? Cloning is a process of telling multiple units to do things seperately. For an example, let's use 5 Scourge to kill 5 Observers. Normally, it's hard to click the Scourge seperately while moving towards the obs, and if you're too slow, the Archons will kill the Scourge. Cloning will help you move all 5 Scourge onto 5 dif obs quickly. 1st step - Select all 5 Scourge 2nd step - Tell all 5 to attack 1 ob 3rd step - Shift select the wireframe of a Scourge to deselect it from the group. You now have 4 Scourge selected. 4th step - Tell the 4 to attack another ob. 5th - shift select 1 6th - Tell the 3 Scourge to attack another ob. Just keep doing that until you only have 1 Scourge left and have it kill the last ob. Sounds kinda confusing, but if you try it out vs the comp, it's pretty simple. Try doing this a few times vs the comp on your 4 worker split. - Tell 4 to mine, deselect 1, tell the 3 to mine another patch, deselect 1, tell 2 to mine another patch, deselect 1, and tell last one to mine another patch. Hope this helps explain to you what cloning is and how it's done. | ||
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SainT
Chile1067 Posts
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never[x.P]
United States85 Posts
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BloodOfAChamp
United States266 Posts
On March 05 2005 22:04 never[x.P] wrote: Sorry bout the grammer on the wraith part was typing really fast cuz i had to go. But yea the reason i brought up wraith cloning is cuz of that game i saw it and i was like how does he do that. i even had a first person vod of it but couldnt figure it out.People started saying "cloning wraiths" a lot after the XellOs highlight video was released. He clones like 6 wraiths perfectly in the middle of the map. Dunno why, or what game it was, but he clones all of them to go to a different direction. It looked really crazy. | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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tnt-ank
Sweden358 Posts
http://fedorov.mine.nu/cloning.wmv i made that at least 2-3 years ago. haha, and this is cute. i don't remember making that. http://fedorov.mine.nu/tnt.wmv | ||
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sundance
Slovakia3201 Posts
On March 05 2005 22:04 never[x.P] wrote: He was scouting for lurker drops on Paradoxx vs Junwi in MyCube OSL.He went 3port wraiths.People started saying "cloning wraiths" a lot after the XellOs highlight video was released. He clones like 6 wraiths perfectly in the middle of the map. Dunno why, or what game it was, but he clones all of them to go to a different direction. It looked really crazy. | ||
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sundance
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sundance
Slovakia3201 Posts
On March 06 2005 00:30 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Are you supposed to shift+click your SCV's in the beginning? I've always just clicked all four of them really fast on different mineral patches after sending them to one. same here I send them to one mineral patch and during their ride to that patch i split 3 workers to different patches manually so every worker is on his own patch(closest to main bulding) | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
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Empyrean
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It's just a lot harder with faster moving units like Scourge, but the good thing in ZvP (sair) is you only need two for each Sair so you don't have to click enemies as much  | ||
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BloodOfAChamp
United States266 Posts
On March 06 2005 00:46 tnt-ank wrote: haha thats what i was lookin for thnx boxer did that on pimpest plays i think in 2003hey, everybody look at me. http://fedorov.mine.nu/cloning.wmv i made that at least 2-3 years ago. haha, and this is cute. i don't remember making that. http://fedorov.mine.nu/tnt.wmv | ||
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dronebabo
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
On March 06 2005 00:30 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Are you supposed to shift+click your SCV's in the beginning? I've always just clicked all four of them really fast on different mineral patches after sending them to one. That's how I do it, too. Using shift and everything would take too much time unless you really practiced it. | ||
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CyuntiyuL
Canada1740 Posts
On March 06 2005 00:46 tnt-ank wrote: hey, everybody look at me. http://fedorov.mine.nu/cloning.wmv i made that at least 2-3 years ago. haha, and this is cute. i don't remember making that. http://fedorov.mine.nu/tnt.wmv Nice fastest map possible ever. Both of those took place in the same game? | ||
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36390 Posts
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Grass.nS)
United States121 Posts
It's used to separate 4 workers in the beginning to different mineral patches, but that's usually a matter of preference. Cloning also helps when you micro scourge to target separate units or else they could be really dumb and you end up having 5 scourge hitting 1 muta. Spellcasters also benefit from cloning in specific situations such as when you have a group of vessels and you scan a group of lurkers that are at a distance you can use the time it takes for the vessels to reach the lurkers to irradiate separate lurkers efficiently as long as you make sure you finish the cloning before the vessels actually reach the lurkers or else you may end up stacking irradiates on one lurker. Overall, I would say cloning is good when you need to accomplish multiple instances of the same task but to different targets given that you have time to execute the clone. The window of time needed to clone is probably why it has limited uses because it can't really be used in the heat of battle. | ||
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tnt-ank
Sweden358 Posts
On March 06 2005 10:44 CyuntiyuL wrote: Nice fastest map possible ever. Both of those took place in the same game? Yes they did. Fastest is the best! As you can see, it was a pretty nice game. | ||
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mahc
United States874 Posts
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OutlawHeadhuntr
Germany4 Posts
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OutlawHeadhuntr
Germany4 Posts
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OutlawHeadhuntr
Germany4 Posts
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OutlawHeadhuntr
Germany4 Posts
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Tfums
Canada476 Posts
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GosuAmerican
United States347 Posts
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GosuAmerican
United States347 Posts
On March 09 2005 09:04 Tfums wrote: yes on pimpest plays that was sweet i thought he did all that by hand before i found out about cloning ^_^.Cloning is what boxer does to 12 bcs with ghosts | ||
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mahc
United States874 Posts
On March 11 2005 21:34 GosuAmerican wrote: yes on pimpest plays that was sweet i thought he did all that by hand before i found out about cloning ^_^. Actually, he did do it all by hand. His ghosts were all grouped | ||
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Grass.nS)
United States121 Posts
On March 11 2005 21:32 GosuAmerican wrote: ok i have tryied this coloning thing and all that happends when i shift click on the wire fram is that it deselects the unit? am i doing this wrong? Yes, that's the whole point of cloning. What happens after you deselect a unit is that you tell the rest of the group to perform the same task you told the previous group except on a different target, then deselect another unit and have that new group perform the same task on yet another target - rinse and repeat until you have only 1 unit left in the group. The reason why it's called cloning is because you are trying to efficiently separate a group of units into sub-groups doing the same task on different targets. The reason why you deselect by clicking on the wireframe instead of the actual unit is because in most cases, cloning is done while in motion which makes it harder to deselect if you click on the unit. | ||
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Empyrean
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1l click 2l click 3l click ... by the way ;\ | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
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GosuAmerican
United States347 Posts
On March 11 2005 21:49 mahc wrote: ok then i was thinking right.Actually, he did do it all by hand. His ghosts were all grouped | ||
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DuSkie
Czech Republic451 Posts
mrmin123 said | ||
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normal
Hungary22 Posts
Really have to practice it. Cloning swarms and webs is fun. But the best is cloned plague, imagine that | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On May 31 2006 17:23 normal wrote: The worst about cloning is for example in TvZ that if you tell all the vessels (say 3) to cast irradiate on a target (say a lurker) and the shift-declick doesnt seem to work, then you have 2 irradiates lost for nothing ? Really have to practice it. Cloning swarms and webs is fun. But the best is cloned plague, imagine that i think it's cuz you're probably holding down shift the whole time you have to let shift go and repress shift everytime you clone a different uniit or that's how it works for me, maybe somethings wrong w/ my keyboard registry but when i learned how to clone my 4 workers at start, when i held down shift the whole time they would all go to the first one - _- | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
i was watching FPS nada, and he clone irridiated lurkers not by shift selecting but he would press the hotkeyed group, and choose an individual vessel each time and just irridiate like that a bit slower, but if you're fast enough it would still be effective and you wouldnt have the risk of wasting irridiates | ||
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XythOs
Germany520 Posts
But I hate cloning with the 4 stark Workers.I send them with mouse only to the different minerals for me It is faster then cloning. | ||
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Boxer[NaMe]
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 31 2006 22:12 skyglow1 wrote: Why did we revive this T_T | ||
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Terra
United States68 Posts
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lololol
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On June 01 2006 00:57 Plexa wrote: | ||
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strik.fr
France212 Posts
On March 05 2005 19:45 Guybrush wrote: you shift click on the unit portrait after you've targeted a unit. For example u have 6 scourges u want to clone on 6 mutas. Then u mark the 6 scourges and wait for him to attack your overlord for example. When he does you attack all 6 scourges on one of the mutas, then u shift click on the unit portrait once so u have 5 scourges marked, then u target a new muta and proceed the same way until u have spread all the 6 scourges on 6 different mutas. Its not that hard precision is important so u dont target the same unit twice. Remember that u need to be some distance away so you have time to clone them correctly. Im not sure if this was any help to u but as far as i know that is what cloning is about. GL ! Ah u mean each time u click on the portrait of a group of same units it will select a different one very time ? | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
Do people clone mass drops? | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
Of course people are fast enough to clone 4 workers at the start. I mean, even I can lol. Basically, before every move or whatever command you want, you hold shift and click on one of the wireframe things at the bottom center of your screen, then you let go off shift, do your move command or whatever, then hold shift and press another wireframe. Each time 1 unit wil be excluded from the new command, so that they all recieve different commands at the end. | ||
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BaKeRy-BoY
Chile36 Posts
So, basically "cloning" means to select a bunch of units, order them to perform an specific task, remove any amount of units from the group, order them another task, and so on, until u have no more units to order. ¿Is that so? | ||
GTR
51574 Posts
i.e shift+click them to minerals, or hastily get all 4 onto a different mineral patch | ||
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DarK]N[exuS
China1441 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On June 02 2006 21:32 BaKeRy-BoY wrote: ... So, basically "cloning" means to select a bunch of units, order them to perform an specific task, remove any amount of units from the group, order them another task, and so on, until u have no more units to order. ¿Is that so? Yup. Sometimes you might want to remove 2 miners from your group when you're cloning 12 miners to an expansion, and sometimes only 1. I use 8 miners always anyway so its like 1 removal each time. | ||
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