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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
June 04 2013 11:00 GMT
#2881
What's the game where Flash went BBS vs Jaedong 4 pool?!? Please link vod. Thanks!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 04 2013 12:24 GMT
#2882
hey guys im getting tired of Fighting spirit. is there another famous map that I should practice? but no python. anything but python. please give me your recommendations!
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-04 13:56:53
June 04 2013 13:53 GMT
#2883
On June 04 2013 21:24 Golgotha wrote:
hey guys im getting tired of Fighting spirit. is there another famous map that I should practice? but no python. anything but python. please give me your recommendations!

I like Sniper Ridge and Dante's Peak, they're both pretty decent maps.

I'd pick Sniper Ridge if I had to choose one.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
June 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#2884
On June 04 2013 21:24 Golgotha wrote:
hey guys im getting tired of Fighting spirit. is there another famous map that I should practice? but no python. anything but python. please give me your recommendations!

Basically all the maps from last season of proleague. New maps like Wind and Cloud, and Pamir Plateu. Maps that are in GC3 are quite good too.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 05 2013 00:52 GMT
#2885
On June 04 2013 22:53 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 21:24 Golgotha wrote:
hey guys im getting tired of Fighting spirit. is there another famous map that I should practice? but no python. anything but python. please give me your recommendations!

I like Sniper Ridge and Dante's Peak, they're both pretty decent maps.

I'd pick Sniper Ridge if I had to choose one.


yeah I like sniper ridge cuz I play zerg ^^

also ground zero is an awesome map!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 05 2013 01:17 GMT
#2886
On June 04 2013 20:00 BisuDagger wrote:
What's the game where Flash went BBS vs Jaedong 4 pool?!? Please link vod. Thanks!




I hope this is what you're looking for.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
June 05 2013 02:50 GMT
#2887
On June 05 2013 10:17 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2013 20:00 BisuDagger wrote:
What's the game where Flash went BBS vs Jaedong 4 pool?!? Please link vod. Thanks!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tolyTovrfzo

I hope this is what you're looking for.

I had seen that one and wasn't sure at the time cause it wasn't the terran BO I remembered. But this confirms it, thank you. I love that series. I posted it in the sc2 cheese thread earlier.
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fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
June 06 2013 07:10 GMT
#2888
Not sure if it belongs here but I did this a while ago, just to try to present build orders in a different way. Maybe someone will find it useful. The build is 21 nexus for PvT:

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[image loading]
t.t
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
June 06 2013 23:30 GMT
#2889
@BroodKingEXE
In the FFE Walling page, it says that a gateway to the left is often impassable, but if it has 15 pixels how is that possible? Are the gaps summed up or is there a special way of calculating the gap.


A gateway has a gap of 16 pixels on its left hand edge, and a gap of 15 pixels on its right hand edge. A zergling is 16x16 so it will always be able to fit between a gateway and something touching the left hand edge of the gateway. A zergling will not be able to fit between a gateway and something touching the right hand edge of the gateway IF that something has a gap of zero on its left hand edge. There is no protoss building with a gap of zero on its left hand edge. Therefore the only way to make a gateway ling tight using its right hand edge is to put it touching an unwalkable tile or object etc that has a gap of zero on its left hand edge. Not all cliff tiles have this property, and there are even two tiles that look identical but only 1 has the gap of zero. So either test ingame or in the editor to be sure. Note that a ghost is only 15 pixels wide so he can always fit throught this gap.

In the picture below, zerglings cannot pass the right hand edge of the gateway because the cliff tile has a gap of zero on its left hand edge.
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[image loading]
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
UPro-BW
Profile Joined September 2012
81 Posts
June 07 2013 15:12 GMT
#2890
does anyone remembers in which game Flash dropped firebats in protoss mineral lines?
"3t4t5t6v7v8v9v" - iloveoov
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
June 07 2013 19:27 GMT
#2891
On June 06 2013 16:10 fold wrote:
Not sure if it belongs here but I did this a while ago, just to try to present build orders in a different way. Maybe someone will find it useful. The build is 21 nexus for PvT:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Beautifull way to read them.NICE
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
bias-
Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
June 10 2013 03:33 GMT
#2892
Does anyone know a good resource to refresh oneself on build orders? I used to play iCCup alot 2-3 years ago. Got to C+, but coming back (I dabbld in sc2, didnt' like it) it's hard to remember a lot of things. I have a lot of OLD replays but hoping to find a nice compendium of all 9 matchups + main BO's used for all... if one exists. Maybe just getting replays of pros in every matchup is the best way?

Cheers (also I've seen the FPVODs on nevake's youtube)

For serious minds, a bias recognized is a bias sterilized.
blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 04:47:25
June 10 2013 04:45 GMT
#2893
On June 10 2013 12:33 bias- wrote:
Does anyone know a good resource to refresh oneself on build orders? I used to play iCCup alot 2-3 years ago. Got to C+, but coming back (I dabbld in sc2, didnt' like it) it's hard to remember a lot of things. I have a lot of OLD replays but hoping to find a nice compendium of all 9 matchups + main BO's used for all... if one exists. Maybe just getting replays of pros in every matchup is the best way?

Cheers (also I've seen the FPVODs on nevake's youtube)


zimp's replay thread has a bunch of high-level replays (a lot from ex-pros) and some of those are fairly recent. For FPVODs, snipealot2 has some saved in the "Videos" section on the channel's twitch.tv page. If VODs are useful, the highest level play these days is in the SSL.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 12 2013 04:25 GMT
#2894
Do any of you guys use arrow keys in game to move your vision? I've seen some of my friends who are pretty new to Brood War do this, but I don't remember ever doing this. I'm just wondering if its just something for beginners to use, or if I'm completely out of the loop.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 12 2013 05:58 GMT
#2895
On June 12 2013 13:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
Do any of you guys use arrow keys in game to move your vision? I've seen some of my friends who are pretty new to Brood War do this, but I don't remember ever doing this. I'm just wondering if its just something for beginners to use, or if I'm completely out of the loop.


Simple answer: Don't do it, it's bad.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
June 12 2013 06:59 GMT
#2896
On June 12 2013 14:58 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 13:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
Do any of you guys use arrow keys in game to move your vision? I've seen some of my friends who are pretty new to Brood War do this, but I don't remember ever doing this. I'm just wondering if its just something for beginners to use, or if I'm completely out of the loop.


Simple answer: Don't do it, it's bad.

I think TLO does it, and i think boxer in an old fpvod.

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but yeah. It's bad.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
June 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#2897
Has there been any changes to the metagame concerning any of the matchups since the End of BW on TV?
Tekken ProGamer
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19371 Posts
June 12 2013 18:05 GMT
#2898
On June 13 2013 00:50 therockmanxx wrote:
Has there been any changes to the metagame concerning any of the matchups since the End of BW on TV?

Not really, and I honestly believe it's because the pro player pool is so small. We do see a variety of strategies in each matchup but I don't think anything game changing has occured. That's just my opinion.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
June 12 2013 18:31 GMT
#2899
On June 13 2013 03:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 00:50 therockmanxx wrote:
Has there been any changes to the metagame concerning any of the matchups since the End of BW on TV?

Not really, and I honestly believe it's because the pro player pool is so small. We do see a variety of strategies in each matchup but I don't think anything game changing has occured. That's just my opinion.

you're forgetting the 1hatch muta revolution in zvp. Zelot is going to be the new face of zerg.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
June 12 2013 19:16 GMT
#2900
On June 12 2013 13:25 BrokenMirage wrote:
Do any of you guys use arrow keys in game to move your vision? I've seen some of my friends who are pretty new to Brood War do this, but I don't remember ever doing this. I'm just wondering if its just something for beginners to use, or if I'm completely out of the loop.


I'm pretty sure that it's useful in a few uncommon scenarios since I've seen video's of pro Koreans doing it but I'm not sure in which situations its used.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
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