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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
August 13 2010 14:08 GMT
#21
#1: Stay away from SC2.

#2: You should see 'How to improve' by ver, it is stickied right in this BW strategy forum.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
BbBoS
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom25 Posts
August 13 2010 14:49 GMT
#22
I have played 2 games today, lost them both, was wondering if anyone could guide me during them, also how do I upload replays :s
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
August 13 2010 14:58 GMT
#23
On August 13 2010 23:49 BbBoS wrote: also how do I upload replays :s

http://repdepot.net/ is your best choice.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 13 2010 15:02 GMT
#24
let me know if you want to have a go!
Each day gets better : )
BbBoS
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom25 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 16:18:05
August 13 2010 16:17 GMT
#25
ella_guru are you on now, because I am up for a game ?

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=37592

Ty for link
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
August 13 2010 16:25 GMT
#26
Let's throw it down, im in channel 'guru'
Each day gets better : )
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
August 14 2010 07:22 GMT
#27
just fyi, liquipedia.net is a really great place if you're new tog et yourself familiarized with the game. really helps you in your build orders.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
August 14 2010 19:50 GMT
#28
hotkeys, hotkeys...if ctrl 1-0 and then pressing the number doesnt work, ur doing it wrong...

also keep ur hotkeys clean. this is important
an ultralisk, an ultralisk, my hive for an ultralisk
micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 20:00:17
August 14 2010 19:55 GMT
#29
oh dude the biggest mistake new players tend 2 do is they dont make enough units. this is absolutely huge. trust me as terran, ur eco will give u more than enough to make plenty of units and buildings, just make sure u expand and know how 2 push with mechs and dont forget 2 keep adding units 2 it

oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant)

like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran
an ultralisk, an ultralisk, my hive for an ultralisk
qoma
Profile Joined May 2009
United States34 Posts
August 14 2010 21:29 GMT
#30
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote:
oh dude the biggest mistake new players tend 2 do is they dont make enough units. this is absolutely huge. trust me as terran, ur eco will give u more than enough to make plenty of units and buildings, just make sure u expand and know how 2 push with mechs and dont forget 2 keep adding units 2 it

oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant)

like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran


omg I can't tell you how many times i've done this, i have (what i think) is enough units to do some damage and i end up getting run over by an army 3 times the size of mine. I'm trying to work on it.

GL with practicing, if you want to practice (I'm no where near good though) just pm me :D
Yotta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
August 14 2010 21:44 GMT
#31
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote:
like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran
I'd agree if your goal is to start winning as quickly as possible.
If you want to get good at terran as quickly as possible, nothing beats playing and studying terran.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
August 14 2010 22:55 GMT
#32
I am same as OP played some SC2 but BW just seems a lot more awesome so I started playing a couple of days ago. So if you want to play add me: [Leper)(Slay] Would be awesome to play someone who might be around the same skill level as me. I am zerg btw.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
trulla
Profile Joined February 2010
Chile303 Posts
August 15 2010 01:38 GMT
#33
On August 13 2010 09:47 BbBoS wrote:
Hello,

I have played a few games on SC2, but I have seen a lot of VODs of SC1 and BW looks a lot more intresting, and I would like to give it a go. I was wondering if there are any D/D- players on Iccup I can practice with so I can get better, and also any beginner Terran stratergys because I only know about Marine, Medic

Thanks



i'm C- terran and i'd play with u for fun and coaching if you like...

My iCCup accounts are trulla and cW-]trulla

Have fun playing BW.
Sea[Shield] !!
micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 01:58:21
August 15 2010 01:52 GMT
#34
On August 15 2010 06:29 qoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote:
oh dude the biggest mistake new players tend 2 do is they dont make enough units. this is absolutely huge. trust me as terran, ur eco will give u more than enough to make plenty of units and buildings, just make sure u expand and know how 2 push with mechs and dont forget 2 keep adding units 2 it

oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant)

like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran


omg I can't tell you how many times i've done this, i have (what i think) is enough units to do some damage and i end up getting run over by an army 3 times the size of mine. I'm trying to work on it.

GL with practicing, if you want to practice (I'm no where near good though) just pm me :D


lolol yeah, as a zerg player, what ud think is enough, like 1 or 2 groups of 12, actually matches up badly against other races with 1-2 12 groups. aside from this little detail, ppl get crushed when vsing their own race because their units is totally inadequate. i will be fighting a zerg player with like what, 10 hydras at his base and a few zerglings and nothing else and i scout him and im like, this would be GG. and theyre like wat? and i throw down my hammer and micro his ass and im left with like 20 hydras and a buttload of zerglings and theyre like oh. GG. of course this no longer happens in ladder for me

see what happens is that new players dont scout. this is a big OOPS. players should always be scouting. second is that because of this. theyre lulled into a false sense of security and theyre flowing with money by now so theyre like wheeee im rich! and another mistake would be they start to tech RANDOMLY like ill be charging in there with my hydra push and theyll have techy stuff like queens nest and spire and hydra den and ONE evo chamber and pool and theyll be getting hive already and therell be like 8 base defenses like 5 sunkens and 3 spores and ill be like WTF NOOB where the hell r ur units? did u bury all of em and they died by suffocation? WTH

and theyll be like...damn u haxor...oh and theyll have only 1 hatchery. the one being upgraded into a hive. it is...extremely sad, to see a zerg player in such a bad condition.
an ultralisk, an ultralisk, my hive for an ultralisk
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 05:43:47
August 15 2010 05:18 GMT
#35
On August 15 2010 10:52 micro7295 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2010 06:29 qoma wrote:
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote:
oh dude the biggest mistake new players tend 2 do is they dont make enough units. this is absolutely huge. trust me as terran, ur eco will give u more than enough to make plenty of units and buildings, just make sure u expand and know how 2 push with mechs and dont forget 2 keep adding units 2 it

oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant)

like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran


omg I can't tell you how many times i've done this, i have (what i think) is enough units to do some damage and i end up getting run over by an army 3 times the size of mine. I'm trying to work on it.

GL with practicing, if you want to practice (I'm no where near good though) just pm me :D


lolol yeah, as a zerg player, what ud think is enough, like 1 or 2 groups of 12, actually matches up badly against other races with 1-2 12 groups. aside from this little detail, ppl get crushed when vsing their own race because their units is totally inadequate. i will be fighting a zerg player with like what, 10 hydras at his base and a few zerglings and nothing else and i scout him and im like, this would be GG. and theyre like wat? and i throw down my hammer and micro his ass and im left with like 20 hydras and a buttload of zerglings and theyre like oh. GG. of course this no longer happens in ladder for me

see what happens is that new players dont scout. this is a big OOPS. players should always be scouting. second is that because of this. theyre lulled into a false sense of security and theyre flowing with money by now so theyre like wheeee im rich! and another mistake would be they start to tech RANDOMLY like ill be charging in there with my hydra push and theyll have techy stuff like queens nest and spire and hydra den and ONE evo chamber and pool and theyll be getting hive already and therell be like 8 base defenses like 5 sunkens and 3 spores and ill be like WTF NOOB where the hell r ur units? did u bury all of em and they died by suffocation? WTH

and theyll be like...damn u haxor...oh and theyll have only 1 hatchery. the one being upgraded into a hive. it is...extremely sad, to see a zerg player in such a bad condition.

You're making Hydras in ZvZ?

Second, you're letting them live until Hive?

Edit: Them meaning, the opponents.
micro7295
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 07:44:36
August 15 2010 07:40 GMT
#36
no that was pretty much exaggerating. seriously, new-ish players will still do dumb stuff like that and its way 2 easy for experienced players to destroy them

sometimes ill make lots of hydras just because im used to using hydras (i know hydras arent very good for a mid game ZvZ) theyre so nice to micro. not weak like marines yet not big like dragoons i know theres ppl who will agree with me on that
an ultralisk, an ultralisk, my hive for an ultralisk
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 09:58:04
August 15 2010 09:57 GMT
#37
On August 13 2010 10:20 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Welcome to where real men play.

QFE


It's great to see new ppl undertaking BW in lieu of the unfaithful sequel.

As mentioned previously, being new in BW can be frustrating, but once you overcome the growing pains, it becomes extremely rewarding. Just remember to play more games even if you lose. Watch pro replays and vods, and try to adhere to their ways.

If you lose a game and don't know why, watch the replay and pay attention to your opponent.

Never forget to scout!

I wish you luck and fun.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
sushi.oi.zz
Profile Joined December 2009
Hong Kong72 Posts
August 15 2010 17:05 GMT
#38
On August 13 2010 14:12 ZavikZyke wrote:
Welcome to the best RTS game man has ever created. As a fellow Terran, I will warn you that Terran is the most mechanically demanding race. It will be frustarting at first, losing to mutas and 2 gate pressure builds but bear through that. Go onto liquidpedia and read he Terran strats. For build orders read Stylish's guide for Terrans here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86770 this man is the best teacher for Terrans Finally, go have fun don't get too mad when you lose and simply enjoy yourself. Good luck and have fun :D



i think it's actually zerg. ._. Well to play zerg well at least.

to play mech, all you gotta do is sit there, unless you're crawling/pushing. but i may be wrong
~O_o
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
August 15 2010 17:53 GMT
#39
I think zerg requires a better ability to read and adapt to your opponent with perfect timing of units/drones. I think terran requires a higher effective apm. I could be wrong as a toss player but that's always been my impression.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 20:46:17
August 15 2010 20:29 GMT
#40
On August 16 2010 02:53 Hautamaki wrote:
I think zerg requires a better ability to read and adapt to your opponent with perfect timing of units/drones. I think terran requires a higher effective apm. I could be wrong as a toss player but that's always been my impression.


Yep that's about right, zerg needs good game sense as in when to make drones and when to make units etc. Terran is the most mechanically demanding race.
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