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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
November 04 2009 18:11 GMT
#21
Thanks for all the work. It is a really nice guide.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 04 2009 21:37 GMT
#22
Wow, that was a really impressive guide. Great job dude!
iNkA
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States206 Posts
November 04 2009 22:31 GMT
#23
u hvae a lot of time
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
November 04 2009 22:35 GMT
#24
Really nice guide, if you allow me I am going to translate it to Spanish to share with the Guatemalan StarCraft Community...
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 21:10:48
November 05 2009 21:09 GMT
#25
On November 04 2009 12:31 Knickknack wrote:
The best guide for beginners out there now. Nice job.

You could consider adding on to it over time and making more sections. For instance a section on how to get started with iccup, or actually I think iccup has a page like that so just give an intro and link to that. A section to give perspective on bw as the best rts, a section on progaming, and the demands of a pro player. Since you recommend new players read a ton of guides, so go ahead and link to the good ones. And so on.


We worked over a year on the section. There are a lot of articels beside this one. On how to micro, what APM is, where you can download replays, and where to play. As i said: we once had a tutorial for ICCUP; it's gone by now since we have a own private server. Not as big as ICCUP but it's our own server. It took me over a year to write this guide here. I collected many questions that where asked at bw.de, things I observed when I watched the newbies play and other FAQ stuff. I don't think I have enough experience at the pro scene to write a guide on this topic. But well, writing is sort of fun, although it's very hard to do if you have to use a foreign language. Maybe I'm going to write some other guides.
Thanks for the positive answers by the way. I really appreciate them =)

On November 05 2009 07:35 kawoq wrote:
Really nice guide, if you allow me I am going to translate it to Spanish to share with the Guatemalan StarCraft Community...


Yeah, well go ahead.
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Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
November 05 2009 21:50 GMT
#26
Liquipedia needs this!
MoOnrai11
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States30 Posts
November 06 2009 00:14 GMT
#27
about that cntrl+shift+ hotkey thing so you can press that to group units while there still training?
I just am.
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
November 06 2009 04:04 GMT
#28
This guide is definitely very encouraging, and i think it covers the bases really well for beginners like me. The "steps" in gameplay have redefined how i think about my play. And, if and when I break D+, I'll be sure to thank you first.

Amazing guide.
julealgon
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil120 Posts
November 06 2009 15:28 GMT
#29
Reading this was very pleasing and informative. I really appreciate the amount of work put into this guide and I can assure you it was very helpful for me, although I tend to believe that following build orders and going for a macro based game is very boring.

I think that since I'm not a pro player, and since I do not intend to be one, experimenting and trying new strategies is much more satisfying and, bearing in mind the opponents are not high level either, they can and do work out very well sometimes.

When people say that you need to go vultures and tanks against protoss as terran because "it's meant to be that way" or something like that I get very disappointed, and end up thinking those people are just trying to copy what the koreans do (to be the most effective or whatever) instead of having fun with the game.

It is much more satisfying when I can come up with something different that works against the people I'm playing with. This week, for example, I was considering researching optical flare as my first upgrade against protoss and was toying with the idea, just because I like to go unorthodox style. IMHO, people start to cease thinking for themselves and just try to clone whatever the most successful gamer of their race is doing right now.
Here is hoping God implements save/load in the next version of life
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 06 2009 19:39 GMT
#30
Add it to the wiki!
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
November 06 2009 22:14 GMT
#31
Wow. What an amazing guide. Great work!
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 06 2009 22:35 GMT
#32
This is very well written, thanks a lot
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
November 17 2009 06:09 GMT
#33
Wow, this guide should really be one of the Recommended Threads in the strategy section imo.
beep boop
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 12 2013 06:23 GMT
#34
bumped for asking whether we could sticky this as recommend thread? It's such a great guide, and helpful regardless of played race.
Broodwar for life!
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
September 15 2013 13:47 GMT
#35
wow, can' t believe i never found this before, this is awesome!
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
krzych113
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United Kingdom547 Posts
September 18 2013 22:26 GMT
#36
On September 15 2013 22:47 pebble444 wrote:
wow, can' t believe i never found this before, this is awesome!

+1
and i think it should be on sticky, its probably crucial
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 19 2013 08:25 GMT
#37
On September 12 2013 15:23 Cele wrote:
bumped for asking whether we could sticky this as recommend thread? It's such a great guide, and helpful regardless of played race.


Well, not really needed. Imo the recommended threads do have better / more exhaustive guide lines, also, Ver's guide on how to improve features most of the text. It was only thought as addendum and as thanks to TL's community in 2009.

Most of this guide, Ver's thoughts and Chef's posts were already added to the Liquipedia and does feature a better and more updated overview, even though most people tend to miss it: (Wiki)Portal:Beginners
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 27 2013 02:08 GMT
#38
On September 19 2013 17:25 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 15:23 Cele wrote:
bumped for asking whether we could sticky this as recommend thread? It's such a great guide, and helpful regardless of played race.


Well, not really needed. Imo the recommended threads do have better / more exhaustive guide lines, also, Ver's guide on how to improve features most of the text. It was only thought as addendum and as thanks to TL's community in 2009.

Most of this guide, Ver's thoughts and Chef's posts were already added to the Liquipedia and does feature a better and more updated overview, even though most people tend to miss it: (Wiki)Portal:Beginners


fair enough, i want aware myself (;
Broodwar for life!
DMarS
Profile Joined November 2014
Mexico17 Posts
December 14 2014 04:48 GMT
#39
Hi, i have problems with my mechanics, i can´ win a single game, my macro goes so so down, i don´t constantly keep on producing army, nor scv´s, my mutlitask is horrible, and i can´t keep that continious cicle of army-workers-macro-expand/production facilities. I´m going mad man :c
I play with some sc friends from other places, but they´re both T, and if I suck so much vP and vZ, vT i get so srewed.
Does anyone has a training routine on how to improve my mechanics and start improving?
Thanks to everyone who helps.
I want to be a gosu Terran o:
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
December 14 2014 11:15 GMT
#40
most important thing is to always have on your mind what you are doing and what you need to do, and then to execute it.

constantly analyze the enemy's build order and timings, expansions, what you need to do to counter and how you should be moving your army etc.
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