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Nuclear
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 11:40:47
July 30 2009 20:12 GMT
#1
Well, i think that this will be interesting for somebody.
So, when different units are selected and given orders - for example marine and medic, we see the medic's pictire and hear the medic's voice - because the medic has higher rank than a marine.
I made an experiment to see the ranks of all units, incl. heroes from all races (for example, what happens, when you select a zealot, a hydralisk and a firebat).
There are some units with equal ranks - if they are selected one by one, we see the picture of the first selected unit. If you drag a rectangle around such units, a random unit is chosen.

So, the ranks are: (from lower to higher, units with equal ranks are on the same line)
1. Probe, Civilian, Larva
2. SCV, Interceptor, Lurker Egg
3. Marine, Observer, Cocoon
4. Medic, Zealot, Broodling
5. Firebat, Drone, Dragoon
6. Ghost, Zergling, Reaver
7. Vulture, Scourge, High Templar
8. Goliath, Infested Terran, Shuttle
9. Siege Tank, Overlord, Scout, Corsair
10. Dropship, Hydralisk, Archon, Dark Archon
11. Wraith, Mutalisk, Lurker, Arbiter
12. Science Vessel, Guardian, Carrier
13. Devourer, Defiler, Dark Templar, Gui Montag (FB hero), Mojo, Artanis (Scout heroes), Warbringer (Reaver), Danimoth (Arbiter)
14. Queen, Alan Schezar (Goliath), Fenix (Zealot)
15. Ultralisk, Tom Kazansky (Wraith), Fenix (Goon)
16. Battlecruiser, Magellan (Vessel) and all zerg heroes but Infested Kerrigan
17. Valkyrie, Infested Kerrigan, Tassadar (HT)
18. Jim Raynor (Marine and Vulture), Tassadar/Zeratul (Archon), Ganthritor (Carrier)
19. Sarah Kerrigan, Samir Duran (ghosts)
20. Edmund Duke (Tank)
21. Hyperion (BC)
22. Norad II (BC)
23. Alexei Stukov (Ghost)
Light]N[exuS
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Hong Kong42 Posts
July 30 2009 20:13 GMT
#2
Cool, stukov is the supreme commander lol
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 30 2009 20:15 GMT
#3
Totally random, but interesting, like you said.


and weird that Alexei Stukov is the #1 in all of SC.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
July 30 2009 20:16 GMT
#4
When I first saw this thread I thought you were going to compile what should be given priority on the battlefield.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 30 2009 20:17 GMT
#5
I was always interested in the unit rankings from all three races. Thanks for sharing.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 30 2009 20:18 GMT
#6
On July 31 2009 05:15 Torenhire wrote:
Totally random, but interesting, like you said.


and weird that Alexei Stukov is the #1 in all of SC.


NAh its cause hes coming back in SC2
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 30 2009 20:20 GMT
#7
Valkyrie is the highest-ranked non-hero unit?? Interesting.

Cool trivia!
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 30 2009 20:21 GMT
#8
This clearly shows drones > SCVs > probes! Why are valks so high up? o_O
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
July 30 2009 20:21 GMT
#9
On July 31 2009 05:13 Light]N[exuS wrote:
Cool, stukov is the supreme commander lol


fuck yeah
STUKOV
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Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-30 20:28:39
July 30 2009 20:27 GMT
#10
lol gotta read
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 30 2009 20:29 GMT
#11
I'm fairly sure someone already did this in another thread somewhere
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 30 2009 20:29 GMT
#12
So the DT is the highest non hero Protoss unit, Interesting

actually DT and valk make sense since they got added in during BW.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 30 2009 20:30 GMT
#13
On July 31 2009 05:21 B1nary wrote:
This clearly shows drones > SCVs > probes! Why are valks so high up? o_O

Because they wanted everyone to hear that cool valk voice. Seriously though, zergling should be the highest.

(blizzard probaly just entered some kind-of-random value for the valk, they were quite lazy when they made bw, for example the bw tilesets have properties (not very obvious unless you are into mapping) that show how lazy they were)
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Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-30 20:31:41
July 30 2009 20:30 GMT
#14
On July 31 2009 05:17 deathgod6 wrote:
I was always interested in the unit rankings from all three races. Thanks for sharing.


Also interesting that valk is higher than the BC
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 30 2009 20:31 GMT
#15
On July 31 2009 05:27 Kentor wrote:
lol gotta read

did u even read?
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
July 30 2009 20:51 GMT
#16
Stukov of mother Russia! fuck yeah!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 30 2009 21:21 GMT
#17
Medic being below Firebat doesnt make any sense..especially since the Terran units usually go by rank pretty well (tanks being higher than vultures and what have you)
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Refrige
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States179 Posts
July 30 2009 21:32 GMT
#18
protoss is looking pretty unimportant :o

reaver = zergling T.T
ggnet)mOnion
Profile Joined June 2009
United States72 Posts
July 30 2009 21:37 GMT
#19
lol i love this random shit, like the egg hatching thread.

there's so much goofy stuff in SC, kineticaaaa
KINETICAAAAAAAAAA
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
July 30 2009 22:49 GMT
#20
I like how the Firebat hero's name is Gui Montag ahahaha

Nice reference to Fahrenheit 451 ;D
ambient
Profile Joined May 2009
United States32 Posts
July 30 2009 23:23 GMT
#21
cool thread
ff7legend
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States213 Posts
July 30 2009 23:50 GMT
#22
ZErgling= reaver hard to understand. besides the fact that the reaver is completely a robot.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 30 2009 23:50 GMT
#23
O_O That's cool, but I wonder why the hierarchy is like it is.
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wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
July 30 2009 23:53 GMT
#24
Haha wonderfull findings! Valkyrie and ofcourse Alexei strange findings. You would expect highest in tech the highest in rank too.
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Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
July 31 2009 00:08 GMT
#25
Technically the game's list is 0-based, but this is still a nice reference material.

Not that it matters, but buildings and critters have a rank of 0, zerg eggs have a rank of 1, mutalisk cocoons have a rank of 2, and everything else (powerups, unused entries, scanner sweep, etc) all have a rank of 0 as well. (Add 1 to those values to match up with the list)
Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
July 31 2009 00:17 GMT
#26
amazing info. I never thought of this before. Go Alexei!
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 31 2009 00:22 GMT
#27
Interesting, if not random. Cool!
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
July 31 2009 01:57 GMT
#28
On July 31 2009 06:32 Refrige wrote:
protoss is looking pretty unimportant :o

reaver = zergling T.T


yeah, you got a huge ass reaver with scarabs that can destroy anything in its path and a stupid zergling is ='ed to it in rank O_O
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Murkyith14
Profile Joined January 2008
United States111 Posts
July 31 2009 02:00 GMT
#29
I always thought that it was the units with the most abilities that were given the higher ranks. Guess not XD
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
July 31 2009 02:12 GMT
#30
Booo i clicked here expecting to see some monkeys. Thread didnt deliver.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 31 2009 02:32 GMT
#31
I always loved Stukov.

Thanks for the research, very odd but interesting ^_^v
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
July 31 2009 06:26 GMT
#32
On July 31 2009 07:49 AlTheCake wrote:
I like how the Firebat hero's name is Gui Montag ahahaha

Nice reference to Fahrenheit 451 ;D

i love blizzard's references to pop culture or other significant or popular things. I think in warcraft 3 there was a easter egg that was based on Fight Club
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 31 2009 06:46 GMT
#33
All hail Alexi Stukov, supreme ruler!

I've been wondering about how this system works. Thanks for the work Nuclear.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 31 2009 06:53 GMT
#34
On July 31 2009 15:26 crazie-penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 07:49 AlTheCake wrote:
I like how the Firebat hero's name is Gui Montag ahahaha

Nice reference to Fahrenheit 451 ;D

i love blizzard's references to pop culture or other significant or popular things. I think in warcraft 3 there was a easter egg that was based on Fight Club


First mission of the undead campaign, there's two villagers with the names from the main characters of fight club, and they're shown punching each other iirc.
Remember Violet.
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
July 31 2009 07:04 GMT
#35
On July 31 2009 07:49 AlTheCake wrote:
I like how the Firebat hero's name is Gui Montag ahahaha

Nice reference to Fahrenheit 451 ;D


The wraith hero "Tom Kazansky" is susposed to be a reference to "Iceman" (played by Val Kilmer) in Top Gun.

Val Kilmer's character in Top Gun is Tom "Iceman" Kazanski.
^_^V
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 31 2009 07:06 GMT
#36
Also most of the WC3 cheats + SC cheats are famous quotes from famous movies
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 31 2009 07:09 GMT
#37
On July 31 2009 05:30 Eben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 05:17 deathgod6 wrote:
I was always interested in the unit rankings from all three races. Thanks for sharing.


Also interesting that valk is higher than the BC


Valk came with BW while BC came out with the original. Only makes sense.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 31 2009 07:18 GMT
#38
On July 31 2009 11:12 Malongo wrote:
Booo i clicked here expecting to see some monkeys. Thread didnt deliver.


hahahaha ... gotcha
You are now breathing manually.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 31 2009 07:24 GMT
#39
lol broodling > marine


i never thought about that. nice list and nice research
not really useful but still pretty interesting.

seems like stukov always has the final say.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 31 2009 07:29 GMT
#40
sweet bit of research would be cool to add to the liquipedia
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 07:35:07
July 31 2009 07:33 GMT
#41
On July 31 2009 09:08 Symmetry wrote:
Technically the game's list is 0-based, but this is still a nice reference material.

That's really the kind of thing that you point out only when you have just a bare understanding of it, enough to feel proud of your knowledge but not enough to understand its significance. Y'know, like when a child learns some clever fact and then constantly refers to it irrelevant situations because it's just so novel to him. That's you. Everyone else who reads your post is then forced into the role of the parent who has a splitting headache from the constant flaunting of idiocy but has no choice but to nod patiently and say, "That's nice, dear."

But really. That's nice.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
July 31 2009 07:39 GMT
#42
Thanks for the research, the cross-race rankings always got me curious.. I really thought that arbiters out-ranked carriers but maybe I'm remembering improperly.
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
July 31 2009 07:45 GMT
#43
nice experiment thanks for the effort and time very interesting facts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 31 2009 07:54 GMT
#44
Lol, Probes so noob.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 31 2009 08:18 GMT
#45
On July 31 2009 07:49 AlTheCake wrote:
I like how the Firebat hero's name is Gui Montag ahahaha

Nice reference to Fahrenheit 451 ;D

You're about 11 years late man
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
July 31 2009 08:31 GMT
#46
What happens if you have a Devourer and a Defiler in the same group? Or any other situation of equal ranked units...
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Essence
Profile Joined October 2005
165 Posts
July 31 2009 09:01 GMT
#47
Well, in those cases you are required to read the OP again
Nuclear
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria17 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 10:11:01
July 31 2009 09:55 GMT
#48
I'm glad, that you are interersted in this research. I am also a a fan of such non-standard, interesting things about the game.

Terran ranks are easy - each unit's rank is written below the unit's name (except Vessels - they need to be locked ot statissed, to remove the "detector" label). The only non-terran unit with rank (or maybe this is not rank) is Ganthritor (hero Carrier) with "rank" Tassadar.

On July 31 2009 17:31 f10esqftw wrote:
What happens if you have a Devourer and a Defiler in the same group? Or any other situation of equal ranked units...


It depends of the selection order. If you select devourer and then shift+click a defiler or other unit with the same (or lower) rank, you will see the devourer's picture. If defiler is first -> you will see the defiler.
If you drag a rectangle over equal-ranked units, every unit has a chance to be first. When more equal-ranked units are selected, you see the picture/hear the voice of the top left unit in the status bar ( the place between the mini map and the unit's picture, where the unit's drawings (green drawing on blue background) are)
Now i see, that i forgot 2 units - cocoon (it's equal to marine and observer) and lurker egg. (equal to scv and interceptor).


TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-31 10:01:16
July 31 2009 10:00 GMT
#49
On July 31 2009 05:20 JWD wrote:
Valkyrie is the highest-ranked non-hero unit?? Interesting.

Cool trivia!

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ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
July 31 2009 10:16 GMT
#50
Valkyrie > Fenix
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Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
July 31 2009 18:56 GMT
#51
On July 31 2009 16:33 armed_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2009 09:08 Symmetry wrote:
Technically the game's list is 0-based, but this is still a nice reference material.

That's really the kind of thing that you point out only when you have just a bare understanding of it, enough to feel proud of your knowledge but not enough to understand its significance. Y'know, like when a child learns some clever fact and then constantly refers to it irrelevant situations because it's just so novel to him. That's you. Everyone else who reads your post is then forced into the role of the parent who has a splitting headache from the constant flaunting of idiocy but has no choice but to nod patiently and say, "That's nice, dear."

But really. That's nice.


lol
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
July 31 2009 21:04 GMT
#52
On July 31 2009 18:01 Essence wrote:
Well, in those cases you are required to read the OP again


Ah, yeah, I misread it the first time around.
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