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Why Hwaseung Oz Will Win the Proleague - Page 2

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iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
July 20 2009 00:03 GMT
#21
Sorry but SKT is going to perform better than Oz in every way imaginable and win it all imo.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 20 2009 00:04 GMT
#22
lol. Brilliant Win-Win situation by ideas. Props to this thread, great way to release rage from STX fail. People should read the thread carefully and properly.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 00:12:13
July 20 2009 00:10 GMT
#23
wow. blind fanboyism going on here.

but what really made me fall out of my chair for laughing so hard was this quote:

"Even if Jaedong wasn’t playing on Oz they would still have a 50/50 shot at taking thing."

even without jd they would have a 50% chance to beat cj/khan AND then skt1? ya, for sure



reasons in favor of oz:

1. jaedong
2. jaedong
3. ????
4. profit!!

seriously, ur whole reasoning is based on the fact that jaedong wins 2 back to back ace matches. in fact i am not too sceptical about oz´s chances against cj/khan, but against bisu and fantasy or bisu 2 times not even jaedong has even 50% chance of success. even if jaedong was a 5:2 favorite against both of them his chances to win both ace matches in a row would only be 51%. and he definitely isnt a 5:2 favorite over bisu.


next point: jd is in 2 starleagues aswell, so his practice schedule will be hellish. he wont be super-rested and relaxed. and yet another point: he does have to win his regular set aswell in the game where his teammates succeed to snipe 2 opposing players. against skt1 he could potentially face bisu or fantasy there aswell, in that case the regular set would be no autowin aswell. and against cj he might potentially have to win 2 back to back ace matches against effort. if he loses just 1 of them oz might lose. so against cj ur "jd will crush any1 flawlessly"-hypothesis might also prove wrong.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 20 2009 00:12 GMT
#24
Someone's taking this a little too srsly.
Jaedong
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
July 20 2009 00:18 GMT
#25
An actual Oz fan would never make this thread, lol. We only gloat after our team has won.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 20 2009 00:19 GMT
#26
On July 20 2009 09:18 EvoChamber wrote:
An actual Oz fan would never make this thread, lol. We only gloat after our team has won.

On July 18 2009 13:41 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Lol, it's because we're more confident. We don't need 7 page threads with fanboys agreeing that their team is awesome; Oz's victory is already secured.

Moderator。◕‿◕。
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 20 2009 00:48 GMT
#27
Contrary to popular belief, you don't need 7 Jaedongs to win
[image loading]


Just 4 and hundreds upon thousands of fanbois swearing he looks tired and the map is imba every time he loses.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 20 2009 01:18 GMT
#28
On July 20 2009 09:10 Black Gun wrote:
wow. blind fanboyism going on here.

but what really made me fall out of my chair for laughing so hard was this quote:

"Even if Jaedong wasn’t playing on Oz they would still have a 50/50 shot at taking thing."

even without jd they would have a 50% chance to beat cj/khan AND then skt1? ya, for sure



reasons in favor of oz:

1. jaedong
2. jaedong
3. ????
4. profit!!

seriously, ur whole reasoning is based on the fact that jaedong wins 2 back to back ace matches. in fact i am not too sceptical about oz´s chances against cj/khan, but against bisu and fantasy or bisu 2 times not even jaedong has even 50% chance of success. even if jaedong was a 5:2 favorite against both of them his chances to win both ace matches in a row would only be 51%. and he definitely isnt a 5:2 favorite over bisu.


next point: jd is in 2 starleagues aswell, so his practice schedule will be hellish. he wont be super-rested and relaxed. and yet another point: he does have to win his regular set aswell in the game where his teammates succeed to snipe 2 opposing players. against skt1 he could potentially face bisu or fantasy there aswell, in that case the regular set would be no autowin aswell. and against cj he might potentially have to win 2 back to back ace matches against effort. if he loses just 1 of them oz might lose. so against cj ur "jd will crush any1 flawlessly"-hypothesis might also prove wrong.


lolol
WrongEdge
Profile Joined May 2009
Singapore57 Posts
July 20 2009 01:44 GMT
#29
TBH i rather see khan or CJ in the grand finals, SKT vs Oz will just be a beat down unless Oz's player pulled some crazy shit and when your main backups are backho, hiya, and lomo says alot about your team depth.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
July 20 2009 02:03 GMT
#30
On July 20 2009 09:48 Count9 wrote:
Contrary to popular belief, you don't need 7 Jaedongs to win

Just 4 and hundreds upon thousands of fanbois swearing he looks tired and the map is imba every time he loses.

Bit blinded by the anti-fanboyism are we?
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 03:58:44
July 20 2009 03:56 GMT
#31
On July 20 2009 09:04 samachking wrote:
lol. Brilliant Win-Win situation by ideas. Props to this thread, great way to release rage from STX fail. People should read the thread carefully and properly.




but honestly I really hope Oz wins Proleague now. After the STX gang JD is my favorite player (and then after him fantasy). I mean if KHAN managed to take down STX, ANYTHING can happen, including Hwaseung getting their shit together and owning up everyone.
Free Palestine
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 20 2009 04:15 GMT
#32
Didn't Lomo have his Skoal confiscated from him?
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
BisuBoi
Profile Joined February 2009
United States350 Posts
July 20 2009 04:24 GMT
#33
On July 20 2009 12:56 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 09:04 samachking wrote:
lol. Brilliant Win-Win situation by ideas. Props to this thread, great way to release rage from STX fail. People should read the thread carefully and properly.




but honestly I really hope Oz wins Proleague now. After the STX gang JD is my favorite player (and then after him fantasy). I mean if KHAN managed to take down STX, ANYTHING can happen, including Hwaseung getting their shit together and owning up everyone.


Yeah, god forbid last season's champs win it again, with the same players. Looool.

OP is hilarious though. Most tongue-in-cheek hilarity ever. (But I do like Backho)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
July 20 2009 04:34 GMT
#34
On July 20 2009 13:24 BisuBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2009 12:56 Ideas wrote:
On July 20 2009 09:04 samachking wrote:
lol. Brilliant Win-Win situation by ideas. Props to this thread, great way to release rage from STX fail. People should read the thread carefully and properly.




but honestly I really hope Oz wins Proleague now. After the STX gang JD is my favorite player (and then after him fantasy). I mean if KHAN managed to take down STX, ANYTHING can happen, including Hwaseung getting their shit together and owning up everyone.


Yeah, god forbid last season's champs win it again, with the same players. Looool.

OP is hilarious though. Most tongue-in-cheek hilarity ever. (But I do like Backho)


KHAN won it last season
Free Palestine
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2419 Posts
July 20 2009 04:56 GMT
#35
On July 20 2009 08:23 TwoStep wrote:
"The format has already proven to fully maximize S-class players." Maximize my ass,

Okay, I just did some math. Note that the scenario I used is not totally representative of what happens here. I don't know what conclusions you can draw from this, but it's still interesting.
Assume that for each game, Team A has 60% chance to win, and team B has 40%, except in a Super Ace match (not normal ace match). For the Super Ace match, the percentages are reversed.

Then, under the old Bo7 format, Team A would have a 71.0208% chance of winning. Under this new format, Team A has a 75.137% chance of winning.

If the percentages are 70/30 then Team A has a 87.3% and 83% change of winning; the winning percentage actually goes down, but not by much anyways.

The way it would actually maximize teams with one S-class player and little depth is if the final deciding ace match was a Bo3....which is what every STX fan wanted anyways.

So basically, STX feel gipped at the format because it allowed a less deep team to win, complained, and suggested a way that would make it easier for a less deep team to win.



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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 20 2009 05:40 GMT
#36
Oz will win Proleague, not only because they have Jaedong, who has a 200% win rate (he even wins games he doesn't participate in, hes so good), but they have the deepest, most clutch lineup of any team out there. One-trick pony teams like SKT and CJ don't stand a chance.
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 20 2009 05:54 GMT
#37
On July 20 2009 07:52 geegee1 wrote:
Lomo actually threw that game away to JD in gom. if he didnt i think Lomo had a chance for a gold and im actually being serious


Are you kidding? You know Lomo isn't a great player in general right? Yeah he was ahead in that game but there is no way he threw it for JD. Gom = Individual league = Every man for his own greed

Winning GOM is like $40,000? Would you seriously not play your best against a friend/teammate if it involved that much money? Fuck I would d/c that game in an effort to get a tie if I was losing if that much money was involved..
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 20 2009 07:14 GMT
#38
On July 20 2009 14:40 Sentenal wrote:
Oz will win Proleague, not only because they have Jaedong, who has a 200% win rate (he even wins games he doesn't participate in, hes so good), but they have the deepest, most clutch lineup of any team out there. One-trick pony teams like SKT and CJ don't stand a chance.

XD

At any rate, given the format, Hwaseung's chances aren't half bad. Jaedong will have to play up to five televised Proleague games in two days, but that only improves the team's chances
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
July 20 2009 07:30 GMT
#39
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some fool is going to get FALCON PUNCHEDDD
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 20 2009 07:33 GMT
#40
Why Hwaseung Oz will NOT win the Proleague.

Because there's no way that 2 other Oz players can win games to take them to the Ace match.

Also, we all know who Oz will throw out as their ace. Other teams can just field a sniper to take Jaedong down. That is if Oz gets to ace in the first place.
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