I know there was another post with this link a while ago but i was surprised to find it dead with no attention at all. Idk, maybe i missed something but isn't this revolutionary, at least for watching replays? I use it to watch all my replays and its the greatest tool ever! If everyone already knows about this then I'm sorry for calling attention to it, but I think everyone should give this a try, because seeing sc replays in high res beats the old way by a lot.
I'm not telling everyone to play with this hack, as it would probably get you banned from iccup, plus give you an unfair advantage unless your opponent was using it too, but definitely give it a chance for replay viewing.
CUSTOM RESOLUTION: inside the folder, double click the file called ResHack.ini and replace the numbers for ur own resolution. This not only lets you customize how much you get to view, but for all my widescreen homies out there, this makes it so that things appear their appropriate size, so say goodbye to stretched out sprites!!!....at least for replays
TIP FROM ME: if you have a big screen, its probably best that you dont set it to your actual screen resolution as this can make sprites appear way too small. So try playing with the resolution till you find a good size. But definitely pick a resolution with ur screen aspect ratio
Some Bugs(ONLY WITH THE OLD VERSION):
-When playing, clicking on the mini-map while having a unit selected wont send it to the correct position.
-Fog of war is basically turned off so the whole map is revealed. This doesn't mean that you can see your opponent, just that instead of the fog, you see the map
Basically what it does is change the ingame resolution of bw to 1024. The beginning loading / intro is normal 640 but when the game starts. You know those high res shots of where the bird eye view is really up in the air. It's like that. The buildings all smaller and you have a huge vision of the map.
oh im sorry, it makes it so you can see sc in high res, and it actually works. Ive been looking for something like this for ages and ive finally found it. Imagine watching a replay of a battle, but you see 4 or 8 times more than what you normally would. Im not sure what resolution it sets it to, and it may or may not depend on ur screen, but chances are you own a computer monitor that is bigger than 640X480
It makes the resolution of your in-game screen larger. I don't have any pics, but it looks awesome from the screenshots I've seen. Haven't downloaded it because I heard the last version was very buggy, but I'll try this out.
For those who still can't picture what it does, it's like your view is zoomed out. You can see much, much more on your screen.
it makes it look as beautiful as when ur using the map editor, you know how all the units and buildings look smaller and sweeter? This version doesn't lag at all. There was one that i tried before i found this one and it was very buggy and laggy, but i think this one is made by someone else
i havnt tried it due to fear of getting banned, though i admit i would love playing in this resolution. This should however make it more difficult to micro since units are smaller, but would make it easier to see and pay attention since more is on the screen. Minimap would also be smaller so that would be harder too. But if you plan to play with this, keep in mind you could get banned and that ur units wont go where you click on the minimap. Other than that its great.
It increases the area of the map you can see, if you set it to 1280x960 you can see 4 times as much, that's the idea. There is another one that has a correctly working minimap and fog of war, a lot of hackers have attempted this type of hack. It was probably posted here too. Edit: there is one that let's you set the resolution, I guess this isn't that one.
It's only nice if you watch replays for entertainment, you can't really play normally with it even if you have one that doesn't lag because everything is so much smaller. It's really nice to see large battle without having to move your screen. I haven't used the one I have for ages because advloaders' statinfo is much more important for my enjoyment of replays.
On July 07 2009 16:22 Dreadwave wrote: There is another one that has a correctly working minimap and fog of war, a lot of hackers have attempted this type of hack. It was probably posted here too. Edit: there is one that let's you set the resolution, I guess this isn't that one.
I tried that one and it lagged like crazy and crashed from time to time. Also the colors were buggy, kinda like sc startup for some people who use vista. Anyways i gave up on that one as it wasn't very enjoyable.
ATTENTION, im embarrassed to say that i just found out
inside the folder, double click the file called ResHack.ini
and replace the number for ur own resolution. This not only lets you customize how much you get to view, but for all my widescreen homies out there, this makes it so that things appear their appropriate size, so say goodbye to stretched out sprites!!!....at least for replays
if you have a big screen, its probably best that you dont set it to your actual screen resolution as this can make sprites appear way too small. So try playing with the resolution till you find a good size. But definitely pick a resolution with ur aspect ratio
On July 07 2009 16:42 Simple wrote: post screenshots so we can see what it looks like
Believe me, i tried, but when i print screen it, the picture comes out all black. Just open ur map editor and thats how good it looks like, except you can customize the resolution. Maybe someone else can post pics?
Tried using it with SC on but got error saying "Fail to load ResolutionHackDemo.dll". Tried with without SC on and got "Failed to run Starcraft". Tried customizing the resolution but nothing changed.
On July 07 2009 16:30 hubfub wrote: wtf? I get this message saying "No installation could be found for starcraft"
How do i use this?
Maybe you have the iccup version, so you don't have registry entries telling the program where the game is installed. Haven't downloaded this yet so I'm just guessing but this is probably the case.
The way this is supposed to be used is to just run it without sc running. Having sc open while trying to run this causes an error message. My guess as to why you would get an error message telling you that it can't find starcraft would be that you starcraft is different or isnt installed in the location where it should be.
On July 07 2009 16:58 Shade692003 wrote: There is a more recent version out there, where the fog of war is fixed.
If there is please link me but i think chances are that its the version that really lagged and crashed and simply looked horrible for me. Ive seen videos of a version that seems to work good with fog enabled, however when i tried it it just didnt work out too good. Oh and it also had no sound.
Thats the vid to that other one, version 0.7 of some other res hack. If any of you want to try that version, please tell us how it went http://www.starcraftresolutionhack.de.vu/
On July 07 2009 16:05 konadora wrote: What does this do?
Hack?
On July 07 2009 16:05 FragKrag wrote: Yeah what does this do...?
Hmm, let's think... Resolution hack... [irony]
I retired from SC and now they made sth like that, ehh. I bet they could use it on iCCup Launcher in the next season, if community wants this and author of this will agree.
On July 07 2009 16:56 pzea469 wrote: The way this is supposed to be used is to just run it without sc running. Having sc open while trying to run this causes an error message. My guess as to why you would get an error message telling you that it can't find starcraft would be that you starcraft is different or isnt installed in the location where it should be.
My starcraft folder is in it's default location for vista(In programs(x86) folder) :/
On July 07 2009 17:10 Kurosaki wrote: My starcraft folder is in it's default location for vista(In programs(x86) folder) :/
hmmmm, you know, i dont have vista, but i have windows 7 64 bit. And when i installed SC, it went to Program Files, without the x86. So im guessing thats why it can't find it. Try installing it to just Program Files, or maybe try moving the starcraft folder from program files (x86) to program files.
On July 07 2009 17:10 Kurosaki wrote: My starcraft folder is in it's default location for vista(In programs(x86) folder) :/
hmmmm, you know, i dont have vista, but i have windows 7 64 bit. And when i installed SC, it went to Program Files, without the x86. So im guessing thats why it can't find it. Try installing it to just Program Files, or maybe try moving the starcraft folder from program files (x86) to program files.
Hm, just viewed some replays on what seems to be the latest version (0.8) and it's really buggy. The mini map doesn't work well and random boxes of fog of war seem to flicker on and off during the game. Otherwise, this seems like a really cool tool for viewing replays if they can get it fixed.
On July 07 2009 17:34 reasonOK wrote: Hm, just viewed some replays on what seems to be the latest version (0.8) and it's really buggy. The mini map doesn't work well and random boxes of fog of war seem to flicker on and off during the game. Otherwise, this seems like a really cool tool for viewing replays if they can get it fixed.
thats the weird res hack i was talking about, it isnt the same one, it is not an updated version of the one i have posted. However a newer version than the one i previously posted is out and i have updated the link accordingly. So dl it!
you have a link in your hack to "the premier hacking community for all things Blizzard." "Don't ban me bro" ain't gonna cut it.
anyway, I uploaded this test video to youtube. You have to navigate to the youtube page if you want to watch it in HD. HD works perfectly and the video looks beautiful.
the reason the minimap doesnt work well is because when you click it starcraft thinks youre using the old low res so it centers over it in such a way so that it would be the center if you were using the old res but because youre using a high res it centers down and to the right. this also explains why the sound effects arent accurate.
On July 07 2009 17:42 motbob wrote: you have a link in your hack to "the premier hacking community for all things Blizzard." "Don't ban me bro" ain't gonna cut it.
anyway, I uploaded this test video to youtube. You have to navigate to the youtube page if you want to watch it in HD. HD works perfectly and the video looks beautiful.
On July 07 2009 17:57 motbob wrote: Another video... again, you have to navigate to youtube for the HD to work. If it isn't working yet come back in about 15 minutes.
On July 07 2009 17:57 motbob wrote: Another video... again, you have to navigate to youtube for the HD to work. If it isn't working yet come back in about 15 minutes.
This has amazing potential for progaming too. Progamers play in normal resolution but observers can watch in high res for a much better vision of the fights and because everything looks better in higher res. Hopefully Tasteless can suggest this to GOM, I can't see why any broadcaster wouldn't want this as a unique selling point.
On July 07 2009 17:43 lazz wrote: the reason the minimap doesnt work well is because when you click it starcraft thinks youre using the old low res so it centers over it in such a way so that it would be the center if you were using the old res but because youre using a high res it centers down and to the right. this also explains why the sound effects arent accurate.
Were u using the old version? Or did u try the new one(I updated the post with the newest version) in the new version, i think the minimap works fine, i just tried it and everything seemed in order. Also there is fog of war, and the sound seemed fine too
No the minimap is still bugged (try to do scan with the minimap), and sometimes you won't hear the sound in high resolution because starcraft believe you are too far to hear it (think you are still on 640x480). Well thats what I think what is causing the sound bug anyway.
this would be more powerful than maphack... i set it to 1680x1050 which is my monitors native resolution and i can literally see my main + my nat + some of the middle... imagine how awesome your macro would be if you wouldn't even have to move away from your army to click on your factories
To all people thinking this would be useful as a maphack if one should use it in-game
I imagine your micro will suffer so badly, since all the units are so small, it'll lose you most games pretty early.
This program, with the sound fixed, and combined with ADVloader (which by the way is sixteen fucking times more awesome than chaoslauncher) would make THE ULTIMATE replay viewing/studying tool
On July 07 2009 22:13 minus_human wrote: To all people thinking this would be useful as a maphack if one should use it in-game
I imagine your micro will suffer so badly, since all the units are so small, it'll lose you most games pretty early.
This program, with the sound fixed, and combined with ADVloader (which by the way is sixteen fucking times more awesome than chaoslauncher) would make THE ULTIMATE replay viewing/studying tool
Actually, with the strength of macro that it would provide, all you need is good positioning, hotkeys on Templar, and just 1a2a3a while making units, flanking, and storming in the general direction of enemy units. With such a huge view, you easily flank/position/surround while being able to macro up a hugeass army.
Realistically, it'd be just like you're playing Best style. 1a2a3a until you win.
Hasn't this been out for awhile ... judging from the many highlight videos on youtube that have high resolution replay clips? Still pretty cool, so thanks =).
Every time I end a game or replay on this mod my starcraft crashes. Basically every time the scoreboard is about to be loaded I see an error log and need to force quit starcraft. Any ideas what could cause this?
On July 07 2009 23:10 lac29 wrote: Hasn't this been out for awhile ... judging from the many highlight videos on youtube that have high resolution replay clips? Still pretty cool, so thanks =).
No, as far as I know those clips are miracles of hard work, syncing and excessive amounts of effort.
WOW. this is fucking amazing. I cant even begin to imagine how hard this must have been to make! The PERFECT replay watching tool. Just watched some progamer muta micro. It looks so cool!!!!
I was going to do a tutorial on how to install it but for some reason it wouldnt let me combine the two clips (was saying they weren't compatible). But installing it is the easy part. Just wanted to make a super fast video so people can see what it looks like in game.
I just played against 7 comps on BGH to test it out and it works pretty good. I set my resolution a little high though and it was really distracting trying to process everything that was going on screen.
One thing I noticed is that I could see where lurkers were burrowed even if I didnt have detection. I couldnt attack them but could see where they were.
I didnt test too much else though, its fun to play around with for sure and definitely enjoyable to watch replays with.
Damn, why must I be at work? This is the worst day to be at work! A non-laggy high-res changer for SC comes out, aswell as SF4PC... And I'm at WORK!! T_T
This looks really nice with 768x480 if you have a widescreen with a 16:10 ratio. Everything stays the same size but those black bars on the side are removed.
Works well for me at 1440*900 but if I go lower it just doesn't fill the screen correctly. Then again ATI has scaling issues in windows 7 so it's probably that.
Attackmoving by clicking minimap sometimes sends units somewhere else shift+control clicking to add units to selection sometimes only adds the unit you click on
Looks sick, using it at 1440x900 and it's amazing for watching replays. Haven't tried it actually playing but will soon against computers to see how it plays.
Pretty much everything is still focused to the top right of your screen, the audio for instance comes from there, so if you on the far right edge of the map, you might not even hear any units. Same goes for any mini map problems people have.
I was hoping to upload a gameplay video of this but a 6 minute video turned out to be half a gig... I will upload one in a couple of days so just wanted to let you know :\
Call me a newb but I don't know how to get it to work
I put it in my C:\Program Files\Starcraft folder, have tried multiple settings in the .ini file, and tried loading using both the included launcher and the normal launcher. Every time I get a memory read error and the game crashes/fails to load, while my desktop resolution gets messed up.
On July 08 2009 10:16 SirKibbleX wrote: Call me a newb but I don't know how to get it to work
I put it in my C:\Program Files\Starcraft folder, have tried multiple settings in the .ini file, and tried loading using both the included launcher and the normal launcher. Every time I get a memory read error and the game crashes/fails to load, while my desktop resolution gets messed up.
Am I missing something horribly obvious?
You don't have to do anything, but it only works in a game, not menus/bnet.
I know, I can't get the game to even load. It crashes as soon as I launch it with any launcher and says it can't read the memory at location 0x... etc. and screws up my screen resolution.
On July 08 2009 10:16 SirKibbleX wrote: I put it in my C:\Program Files\Starcraft folder, have tried multiple settings in the .ini file, and tried loading using both the included launcher and the normal launcher. Every time I get a memory read error and the game crashes/fails to load, while my desktop resolution gets messed up.
I dont really know but when i dled it, i just put the folder on my desktop and ran the exe inside the folder. Maybe if you moved everything inside the sc location it gets messed up.....might be dumb but you should at least try leaving the folder in ur desktop and running it from there.
Man is this think awesome. I watched all my iccup replays and discovered flaws i didn't knew i have. No i can study more reps and also perfect some skills.
Maybe now every league that streams replays can use this. It has a little box between the normal SC boxes which casters could use to show some stats. I don't know to much about programing but i think it would be easy to modify to show some stats in that box.
On July 08 2009 10:16 SirKibbleX wrote: Call me a newb but I don't know how to get it to work
I put it in my C:\Program Files\Starcraft folder, have tried multiple settings in the .ini file, and tried loading using both the included launcher and the normal launcher. Every time I get a memory read error and the game crashes/fails to load, while my desktop resolution gets messed up.
Am I missing something horribly obvious?
If you are running vista, remember to right click on THEIR loader and hit "Run as Administrator". I had the same problem you describe until i tried that.
tried it, and it works. doesnt work for my screen resolution of 1920x1200 tho, it crashes - probably because of insufficient memory. Something less than that like 1600x1080 works fine tho, and its pretty amazing that way.
I tried making a .inj file for ChaosLauncher so that you could launch it with that, but for some reason ChaosLauncher can't manage to inject it. I might end up making a quick plugin for it like I did for DXWnd a while back though... (if I do, I think I'm going to make it modify some parts of SC's memory so that you can't logon to battle.net with it) I'm not sure its really worth my effort though, as launching it with Wmode doesn't work (wmode overrides it, basically, and you end up with the normal-sized wmode window), and that'd really be the only reason I would want it. Let me know if its something you guys want.
For some reason 1280 x 1024 doesn't work for me, but when I set it so the ratio is 1 and 1/3 (ie- set it to 1280 x 960) it works fine. So, if anyone's having the same problem, there you go.
I'm properly paranoid, but I'm afraid to run it on this comp. I need a testcomp asap. Can someone knowledgeable decompile it or somehow test it for malicious code?
On July 08 2009 09:49 OnceKing wrote: Whenever I take a screenshot, it takes only a normal 800x600 shot.
... but standard resolution is 640x480, so somehow it makes you a bigger one...
I suspect that the regular broodwar engine will only be taking the standard screen size in it's automatic saving of screenshots... But if you just paste the screen shot from the clipboard into MSPaint or something, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
EDIT: I tried it myself... just the prnt screen button doesn't work, but if you use Irfanview (free image viewing program) the hotkey for screen shots is ctrl + f11 and that works great.
On July 09 2009 05:28 noob4ever wrote: I'm properly paranoid, but I'm afraid to run it on this comp. I need a testcomp asap. Can someone knowledgeable decompile it or somehow test it for malicious code?
real men download it without someone knowledgable previously decompiling it and testing for malicious code.
BTW. haven't had the chance to test this one out on my own.. does it still work the same way (constantly changing screens and then connecting them), coz that caused the game to lag for me.. enough to not want to play games with it.
On July 09 2009 05:28 noob4ever wrote: I'm properly paranoid, but I'm afraid to run it on this comp. I need a testcomp asap. Can someone knowledgeable decompile it or somehow test it for malicious code?
I think the many people saying how good this is is justification enough for you to get it and trust that it doesn't have anything overtly malicious. I've downloaded like 50+ starcraft related programs and never gotten viruses or anything, even when I downloaded those old hacks like inhale way back when when I was just starting Starcraft. I think the community is better than a lot of other games
This program seems to break when triggers force your screen to scroll to a corner. (See first protoss mission in BW.) Other than that, it seems to work fine.
On July 09 2009 10:25 Clasic wrote: This is fucked up.. hacks of any sort shouldn't be posted on TL.
Why hello there, iccup and everything associated with it.
edit : If they update the anti-hack launcher, it'll probably start detecting this, though. If it's a tool left for watching replays and singleplayer it's better.
However, every other game in existence allows for you to change the resolution, and while you probably have an advantage in 1280 x 1024 in CS or FPS in general, there are also some disadvantages that go with it a lot of the time. And a 640x480 player who rocks, is still going to rock.
Alright Clasic, we'll just go ahead and take down wmode, ChaosLauncher, Lan Latency, APMAlert, AdvLoader....
Hacking/not hacking is unfortunately a fine line. All of the plugins that we have enjoyed throughout the years are hacks. They might not be malicious/interfere with competitive gaming, but you cannot seperate them very easily. They function exactly the same. I think most of us agree that using this in a game gives an unfair advantage, but this is extremely useful to competitive gamers in another way: to watch replays. For that reason, I think its completely fine for it to be posted here. If the only thing stopping you or someone else from hacking at Starcraft is finding a download for a hack, I think you need to kill yourself right now because that's about one of the easiest things to find on the internet.
To assure you further that this should be allowed to be posted here, this hack cannot currently be used along with Iccup antihack launcher without doing some (decently) heavy programming work. If it could, it would likely pass their antihack check (although I am not sure), but this risk is minimal at best. If you don't want to be exposed to this, play on Iccup and only play with people that have antihack on.
Yeah, I think its definitely an interesting question. If every player had a certain resolution (above 640x480) I think it would make for some interesting competition. 640x480 is obviously very limiting, so that adds something to the skill required to master the game (and thus why many SCers would be opposed to playing against someone using the hack unknowingly). If a ladder/competition imposed a hardcoded resolution on everyone (like 800x600, for example, since everyone should be able to support that resolution easily), it could keep everything even for everyone while giving a a larger view area.
i used it, it's pretty buggy and really confusing sometimes (double clicking your hotkeys doesn't center it, for instance), but it's pretty interesting and doesn't lag at all
for those who can't get it working, put it inside your starcraft folder and run as admin (for vista). make sure your resolution ratio in the text file is the same as your monitor's ratio or it crashes after going into the game. fyi, it doesn't look malicious at all, and many many people have already used it fine i think.
just use iccup antihack if you think it's an unfair advantage. what's the big deal?
On July 09 2009 20:08 Padal wrote: is there a way to run this application with no registry entries of starcraft? would be nice to just set the way to starcraft.exe for it to work
Fairly impossible without rewriting/hacking the loader. The way the loader works is it first checks the registry for Starcraft's install path, and then it looks in the directory it is in for any dll files. It then injects all those dll files into the starcraft.exe it found inside the starcraft path. So, since its designed to be in a different directory than SC itself, it needs to use the install path to find it.
I guess as another option you could look for a different dll loader. Google around for command-line dll injectors or something along those lines and you'll probably turn up something you could use for the purpose.
wow, this is perfectly done!! It's almost like Blizzard made a patch, if you're not picky about minor details, you can't spot that this is a 3rd party hack.
On July 09 2009 10:35 tec27 wrote: Alright Clasic, we'll just go ahead and take down wmode, ChaosLauncher, Lan Latency, APMAlert, AdvLoader....
Yeah cuz we all know equating advantageous hacks with unadavtangeous hacks makes lots of sense
and you decide what is advantageous and what not? i consider APMAlert advantageous because if I dont have it I wont keep up my speed. Or i find FPReps advantageous because the one watching it first person can find out weak spots easier than the guy without it.
its always the users responisbility to not abuse the given tool. only because you can stab someone with a knife it doesnt mean you have to. its also ridiculous to ban all knifes because someone could get stabbed.
generally its a very bad way to go by hushing up the stuff you dont like, you should educate about it properly instead.
I can turn it into a plugin fairly quickly (I pretty much ahve the code 100%, I just need to change some text). I don't have access to the code atm though, so it will probably have to wait a couple hours. I'll get it done and upload it for you soon though.
On July 09 2009 20:08 Padal wrote: is there a way to run this application with no registry entries of starcraft? would be nice to just set the way to starcraft.exe for it to work
Fairly impossible without rewriting/hacking the loader. The way the loader works is it first checks the registry for Starcraft's install path, and then it looks in the directory it is in for any dll files. It then injects all those dll files into the starcraft.exe it found inside the starcraft path. So, since its designed to be in a different directory than SC itself, it needs to use the install path to find it.
I guess as another option you could look for a different dll loader. Google around for command-line dll injectors or something along those lines and you'll probably turn up something you could use for the purpose.
Or he could simply create those registries. Should work no problems.
On July 09 2009 10:35 tec27 wrote: Alright Clasic, we'll just go ahead and take down wmode, ChaosLauncher, Lan Latency, APMAlert, AdvLoader....
Yeah cuz we all know equating advantageous hacks with unadavtangeous hacks makes lots of sense
and you decide what is advantageous and what not? i consider APMAlert advantageous because if I dont have it I wont keep up my speed. Or i find FPReps advantageous because the one watching it first person can find out weak spots easier than the guy without it.
its always the users responisbility to not abuse the given tool. only because you can stab someone with a knife it doesnt mean you have to. its also ridiculous to ban all knifes because someone could get stabbed.
generally its a very bad way to go by hushing up the stuff you dont like, you should educate about it properly instead.
It's not an opinion. It IS an advantage, denying this just makes you look like an idiot (not that you haven't already)
Everyone has access to these things, they don't interfere with the game directly. A little alert saying your APM is low is just a good trainer, it won't help you out in a real game. Watching an FPRep, really? You're equating a player having a wider spectrum of vision with watching replays? Lol..
You're naming things that help TRAIN you to become a better player, using a resolution hack is DIRECTLY interfering with the game. If EVERY player had access to it (not everyones going to risk their accounts or even know about it in the first place) then it would be fine, but that's obviously not the case.
Your analogy is terrible and didn't pertain to this, what-so-ever
It's an interesting tool. Using it to watch replays or play with some friends using it too isn't what bothers me, it's the fact that a player with this has more potential than one with not, sure it's a little tougher to be more accurate, but the pros outweigh the cons massively
and nowhere am I "hushing" it up. I pointed out the facts, that this gives an obvious advantage to someone using it against someone not using it. End of story.
You're not stating facts any more than people who are arguing it isn't a hack are. You are stating your opinion. Despite what you may think you aren't the authority on what is and isn't advantageous in the world of 3rd party plugins and hacks for Starcraft: Brood War.
I think this thing is nothing more than a buggy toy, and there's no clear evidence to suggest seeing your nat from your main is a fair trade for having a microscopic minimap, having your camera not go where you want when you navigate with your minimap, your min/supply information way in the far corner of your screen, having wireframes/cloning be incredibly hard, your micro suffering significantly from the size of units, etc. I think it's really cool but I honestly wouldn't even try to play with this thing even if it wasn't prone to crashing like it is for me.
While on the otherhand it is incredibly helpful in the creation of movies, wallpapers etc, not to mention watching and maybe even broadcasting games, from reps or live observing. It has tons of uses beyond playing the game with, whether or not that gives you an unfair advantage (which is debatable.)
I would argue that something like APM alert, in the hands of someone whose biggest flaw in their game is speed, is more advantageous because it reinforces important aspects of play instead of changing how you look at the game like this widescreen hack does (less emphasis on minimap, awareness, etc)
Meanwhile, apm alert has no other beneficial uses to the community except to help people. And if something that provides aid and helps a player isn't an "advantage" by the basic definition of the word, I don't know what is.
On July 09 2009 10:35 tec27 wrote: Alright Clasic, we'll just go ahead and take down wmode, ChaosLauncher, Lan Latency, APMAlert, AdvLoader....
Yeah cuz we all know equating advantageous hacks with unadavtangeous hacks makes lots of sense
and you decide what is advantageous and what not? i consider APMAlert advantageous because if I dont have it I wont keep up my speed. Or i find FPReps advantageous because the one watching it first person can find out weak spots easier than the guy without it.
its always the users responisbility to not abuse the given tool. only because you can stab someone with a knife it doesnt mean you have to. its also ridiculous to ban all knifes because someone could get stabbed.
generally its a very bad way to go by hushing up the stuff you dont like, you should educate about it properly instead.
I didn't know first person replays existed. Do they still work?
On July 09 2009 22:36 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote: its always the users responisbility to not abuse the given tool. only because you can stab someone with a knife it doesnt mean you have to. its also ridiculous to ban all knifes because someone could get stabbed.
personally I think we should ban all LAN modes because someone could pirate. confirm/deny?
In other news this is a great tool for making movies and watching replays.
On July 11 2009 02:30 floor exercise wrote: You're not stating facts any more than people who are arguing it isn't a hack are. You are stating your opinion. Despite what you may think you aren't the authority on what is and isn't advantageous in the world of 3rd party plugins and hacks for Starcraft: Brood War.
I think this thing is nothing more than a buggy toy, and there's no clear evidence to suggest seeing your nat from your main is a fair trade for having a microscopic minimap, having your camera not go where you want when you navigate with your minimap, your min/supply information way in the far corner of your screen, having wireframes/cloning be incredibly hard, your micro suffering significantly from the size of units, etc. I think it's really cool but I honestly wouldn't even try to play with this thing even if it wasn't prone to crashing like it is for me.
While on the otherhand it is incredibly helpful in the creation of movies, wallpapers etc, not to mention watching and maybe even broadcasting games, from reps or live observing. It has tons of uses beyond playing the game with, whether or not that gives you an unfair advantage (which is debatable.)
I would argue that something like APM alert, in the hands of someone whose biggest flaw in their game is speed, is more advantageous because it reinforces important aspects of play instead of changing how you look at the game like this widescreen hack does (less emphasis on minimap, awareness, etc)
Meanwhile, apm alert has no other beneficial uses to the community except to help people. And if something that provides aid and helps a player isn't an "advantage" by the basic definition of the word, I don't know what is.
Having an advantage isn't an opinion. If it was a disadvantage as you're implying then why use it other than the aesthetics for replays/screenshots? Exactly.
Good people can use this to gain an edge, regardless of needing to be more precise, it's a fair trade off when you can macro with one F-key, save your main/nats from work harass without even moving your screen. It alters the gameplay for one person while the other person has no choice as this is pretty much unknown to 99.99999% of the people who play.
If you actually think APM alert is helpful in a real game other than a training tool, you're just stupid, this is common sense, not opinionative.
APM Alert helps you train to keep your APM at a certain level, a D+ player should know when they're not playing at their optimum speed, it's just one less thing you need to focus on when training, it holds absolutely zero value in a real game where you're not just playing with the intent to improve.
I'm not denying it's a cool gimmick, but I don't think it belongs on ICCUP or anywhere where serious matches could take place, even if it isn't a clear cut advantage (aka you have downs and can't click a slighty smaller icon for cloning, no offense, you probably just have fat hands) it's still an altering effect to the end-game results which is unfair to the other player who isn't using it.
Stop trying to justify hacks because you can't play without an edge
On July 11 2009 02:30 floor exercise wrote: You're not stating facts any more than people who are arguing it isn't a hack are. You are stating your opinion. Despite what you may think you aren't the authority on what is and isn't advantageous in the world of 3rd party plugins and hacks for Starcraft: Brood War.
I think this thing is nothing more than a buggy toy, and there's no clear evidence to suggest seeing your nat from your main is a fair trade for having a microscopic minimap, having your camera not go where you want when you navigate with your minimap, your min/supply information way in the far corner of your screen, having wireframes/cloning be incredibly hard, your micro suffering significantly from the size of units, etc. I think it's really cool but I honestly wouldn't even try to play with this thing even if it wasn't prone to crashing like it is for me.
While on the otherhand it is incredibly helpful in the creation of movies, wallpapers etc, not to mention watching and maybe even broadcasting games, from reps or live observing. It has tons of uses beyond playing the game with, whether or not that gives you an unfair advantage (which is debatable.)
I would argue that something like APM alert, in the hands of someone whose biggest flaw in their game is speed, is more advantageous because it reinforces important aspects of play instead of changing how you look at the game like this widescreen hack does (less emphasis on minimap, awareness, etc)
Meanwhile, apm alert has no other beneficial uses to the community except to help people. And if something that provides aid and helps a player isn't an "advantage" by the basic definition of the word, I don't know what is.
maybe you shouldn't use 1400x900 greedy guy just change it 800x600 and you will see the trade-off
On July 11 2009 02:30 floor exercise wrote: You're not stating facts any more than people who are arguing it isn't a hack are. You are stating your opinion. Despite what you may think you aren't the authority on what is and isn't advantageous in the world of 3rd party plugins and hacks for Starcraft: Brood War.
I think this thing is nothing more than a buggy toy, and there's no clear evidence to suggest seeing your nat from your main is a fair trade for having a microscopic minimap, having your camera not go where you want when you navigate with your minimap, your min/supply information way in the far corner of your screen, having wireframes/cloning be incredibly hard, your micro suffering significantly from the size of units, etc. I think it's really cool but I honestly wouldn't even try to play with this thing even if it wasn't prone to crashing like it is for me.
While on the otherhand it is incredibly helpful in the creation of movies, wallpapers etc, not to mention watching and maybe even broadcasting games, from reps or live observing. It has tons of uses beyond playing the game with, whether or not that gives you an unfair advantage (which is debatable.)
I would argue that something like APM alert, in the hands of someone whose biggest flaw in their game is speed, is more advantageous because it reinforces important aspects of play instead of changing how you look at the game like this widescreen hack does (less emphasis on minimap, awareness, etc)
Meanwhile, apm alert has no other beneficial uses to the community except to help people. And if something that provides aid and helps a player isn't an "advantage" by the basic definition of the word, I don't know what is.
Having an advantage isn't an opinion. If it was a disadvantage as you're implying then why use it other than the aesthetics for replays/screenshots? Exactly.
Good people can use this to gain an edge, regardless of needing to be more precise, it's a fair trade off when you can macro with one F-key, save your main/nats from work harass without even moving your screen. It alters the gameplay for one person while the other person has no choice as this is pretty much unknown to 99.99999% of the people who play.
If you actually think APM alert is helpful in a real game other than a training tool, you're just stupid, this is common sense, not opinionative.
APM Alert helps you train to keep your APM at a certain level, a D+ player should know when they're not playing at their optimum speed, it's just one less thing you need to focus on when training, it holds absolutely zero value in a real game where you're not just playing with the intent to improve.
I'm not denying it's a cool gimmick, but I don't think it belongs on ICCUP or anywhere where serious matches could take place, even if it isn't a clear cut advantage (aka you have downs and can't click a slighty smaller icon for cloning, no offense, you probably just have fat hands) it's still an altering effect to the end-game results which is unfair to the other player who isn't using it.
Stop trying to justify hacks because you can't play without an edge
"Having an advantage isn't an opinion. If it was a disadvantage as you're implying then why use it other than the aesthetics for replays/screenshots? Exactly."
I already stated I don't want to use this thing in games because it is headache inducing among all the other cost/benefits of using it to play BW at an obscene resolution that I listed. It isn't an advantage in my opinion. I don't want to use it, so how am I trying to justify wanting to use hacks because I can't play without an edge?
"APM Alert helps you train to keep your APM at a certain level" Gee that sounds awfully advantageous for a player who has issues keeping their APM at a certain level, especially against an opponent with the same issues and no plugin to help him overcome that.
Also to the person who said to use it at 800*600 I haven't tried that I am speaking from using it at a really high resolution to see half the map at any given time.
I wasn't even defending its use in game, I wouldn't use it and I probably wouldn't want it used against me anyway, I was defending it being linked on this site, because it has tons of alternate uses. If you read back the person who sparked this debate insisted that this thread be removed because this is a hack. I disagree 100% with that. It's the same circular argument that occurs every single time a new plugin or 3rd party mod of for Brood War is made, some ignorant purist retard goes on a bender about how it should never be used. It's literally the same arguments over and over.
What got me caught up in the argument was the stupidity of Toxiferwhatever's post and the righteousness that he handed down his opinion as fact when it is anything but. Every single plugin that improves the quality of play for the person using it is "advantageous." The particular level of advantage might be a decent argument to use when deciding what should and shouldn't be allowed in regular play, but to pretend like one doesn't offer any advantage at all is a joke, just like you said you 78 post wonder, why use if there's no advantage given?
On July 11 2009 02:30 floor exercise wrote: You're not stating facts any more than people who are arguing it isn't a hack are. You are stating your opinion. Despite what you may think you aren't the authority on what is and isn't advantageous in the world of 3rd party plugins and hacks for Starcraft: Brood War.
I think this thing is nothing more than a buggy toy, and there's no clear evidence to suggest seeing your nat from your main is a fair trade for having a microscopic minimap, having your camera not go where you want when you navigate with your minimap, your min/supply information way in the far corner of your screen, having wireframes/cloning be incredibly hard, your micro suffering significantly from the size of units, etc. I think it's really cool but I honestly wouldn't even try to play with this thing even if it wasn't prone to crashing like it is for me.
While on the otherhand it is incredibly helpful in the creation of movies, wallpapers etc, not to mention watching and maybe even broadcasting games, from reps or live observing. It has tons of uses beyond playing the game with, whether or not that gives you an unfair advantage (which is debatable.)
I would argue that something like APM alert, in the hands of someone whose biggest flaw in their game is speed, is more advantageous because it reinforces important aspects of play instead of changing how you look at the game like this widescreen hack does (less emphasis on minimap, awareness, etc)
Meanwhile, apm alert has no other beneficial uses to the community except to help people. And if something that provides aid and helps a player isn't an "advantage" by the basic definition of the word, I don't know what is.
Having an advantage isn't an opinion. If it was a disadvantage as you're implying then why use it other than the aesthetics for replays/screenshots? Exactly.
Good people can use this to gain an edge, regardless of needing to be more precise, it's a fair trade off when you can macro with one F-key, save your main/nats from work harass without even moving your screen. It alters the gameplay for one person while the other person has no choice as this is pretty much unknown to 99.99999% of the people who play.
If you actually think APM alert is helpful in a real game other than a training tool, you're just stupid, this is common sense, not opinionative.
APM Alert helps you train to keep your APM at a certain level, a D+ player should know when they're not playing at their optimum speed, it's just one less thing you need to focus on when training, it holds absolutely zero value in a real game where you're not just playing with the intent to improve.
I'm not denying it's a cool gimmick, but I don't think it belongs on ICCUP or anywhere where serious matches could take place, even if it isn't a clear cut advantage (aka you have downs and can't click a slighty smaller icon for cloning, no offense, you probably just have fat hands) it's still an altering effect to the end-game results which is unfair to the other player who isn't using it.
Stop trying to justify hacks because you can't play without an edge
"Having an advantage isn't an opinion. If it was a disadvantage as you're implying then why use it other than the aesthetics for replays/screenshots? Exactly."
I already stated I don't want to use this thing in games because it is headache inducing among all the other cost/benefits of using it to play BW at an obscene resolution that I listed. It isn't an advantage in my opinion. I don't want to use it, so how am I trying to justify wanting to use hacks because I can't play without an edge?
"APM Alert helps you train to keep your APM at a certain level" Gee that sounds awfully advantageous for a player who has issues keeping their APM at a certain level, especially against an opponent with the same issues and no plugin to help him overcome that.
Also to the person who said to use it at 800*600 I haven't tried that I am speaking from using it at a really high resolution to see half the map at any given time.
I wasn't even defending its use in game, I wouldn't use it and I probably wouldn't want it used against me anyway, I was defending it being linked on this site, because it has tons of alternate uses. If you read back the person who sparked this debate insisted that this thread be removed because this is a hack. I disagree 100% with that. It's the same circular argument that occurs every single time a new plugin or 3rd party mod of for Brood War is made, some ignorant purist retard goes on a bender about how it should never be used. It's literally the same arguments over and over.
What got me caught up in the argument was the stupidity of Toxiferwhatever's post and the righteousness that he handed down his opinion as fact when it is anything but. Every single plugin that improves the quality of play for the person using it is "advantageous." The particular level of advantage might be a decent argument to use when deciding what should and shouldn't be allowed in regular play, but to pretend like one doesn't offer any advantage at all is a joke, just like you said you 78 post wonder, why use if there's no advantage given?
Sorry, your post is too long and given that you've proven yourself to be highly unintelligent I'll just skip it since I know it will be more crying about how your hack isn't giving any edge :D
Just throw the bwl where you normally put Chaos plugins. Also, make sure the ResolutionExpander.dll and the ini file from the original download are in that folder as well. Then simply launch the game through Chaos with that plugin checked and it should work.
Your opinion doesn't mean the program gives an edge. The only way to determine this would be to let the top gamers use this program and see if they perform better or worse. This will tell you if the resolution hack gives an advantage or disadvantage. Until then, your opinion, though it may be worded well, does not equal fact.
Just throw the bwl where you normally put Chaos plugins. Also, make sure the ResolutionExpander.dll and the ini file from the original download are in that folder as well. Then simply launch the game through Chaos with that plugin checked and it should work.
Very nice, but how do you change the resolution manually?
Just throw the bwl where you normally put Chaos plugins. Also, make sure the ResolutionExpander.dll and the ini file from the original download are in that folder as well. Then simply launch the game through Chaos with that plugin checked and it should work.
Very nice, but how do you change the resolution manually?
Edit the ini file like you normally do for this hack.
On July 11 2009 12:49 nebffa wrote: Your opinion doesn't mean the program gives an edge. The only way to determine this would be to let the top gamers use this program and see if they perform better or worse. This will tell you if the resolution hack gives an advantage or disadvantage. Until then, your opinion, though it may be worded well, does not equal fact.
On July 11 2009 14:26 reachfortherings wrote: Guys, this debate is totally stupid.
In real games (by that i mean iccup ladder, tourney, etc) you aint gonna use ANY hacks In other games it doesnt really matter if you use resolution hack or liveapm (or even maphack) as long as it makes you have a happier experience playing the game. err maybe not maphack, dont ban me plz.
I played about 20 games on east with it.. i love it!! but i felt like a cheater and hacker =((( i cant bring myself to use it anymore other then replays.. u can see Cloaked units running around they have a black color to them and u can see lurkers burrowed for only a short while, if u move ur screen around it fixes it! use at ur own risk!!
I don't have the time to read through 10 pages to see if someone already posted this, but I found a bug If you hit 'attack' and then click a spot on the minimap, the units don't go where you told them to. Often times they go a lot lower
A few things that annoy me though, is the blue info box at the bottom (hehe), but also a few things need to be centered. For example
messages like "not enough minerals"
the menu if you hit F10
the building/unit info box at the bottom
the vespene gas/mineral counter (well it needs to be on the right, not centered)
and perhaps the main menu
But everything else is DAMN AWESOME! I wonder if this falls under "cheating"
edit: okay I don't know if someone else mentioned this before but my SC is crashing if I click "exit mission" and i can't move the screen if the pc auto-centered it in the campaign... But these are just fine adjustments
The sounds played are centered around the top left of the screen. If your resolution is big enough, stuff that looks like it is happening in the middle of the screen can be totally silent because it's too far away from the top left, where all the sound is centered.
Would also love to see mineral counts at top right, as has been mentioned.
On July 08 2009 09:49 OnceKing wrote: Whenever I take a screenshot, it takes only a normal 800x600 shot.
... but standard resolution is 640x480, so somehow it makes you a bigger one...
I suspect that the regular broodwar engine will only be taking the standard screen size in it's automatic saving of screenshots... But if you just paste the screen shot from the clipboard into MSPaint or something, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
EDIT: I tried it myself... just the prnt screen button doesn't work, but if you use Irfanview (free image viewing program) the hotkey for screen shots is ctrl + f11 and that works great.
Alright, I can get a screenshot but after I take the screenshot the colors come out funny. EDIT: Alright, forced alt tab when I use irfanview seems to be the problem. Is there a way I can fix that?
On July 15 2009 07:29 niteReloaded wrote: I wonder if we're gonna see some hot battles suddenly zoom-out on OGN or MBC in the time coming.
haha, yeah. Before too long all commentators will play with a res of 1920x1200 and there will be a zoom button to allow them to zoom anywhere from 640x480 all the way out to 1920x1200 :D
very nice! anyone using a particular resolution they like? (shows a huge part of the map while making microing feasible). o and not sure if it matters but my laptop's highest resolution is 1200x800 (pathetic i know )
I think the newest ver is still has some bugs. I try it on the first mission of chapter 4. When i got to my high templar troop. The camera changed to the lower right base and the game freezed. It's not actually freezed, but i can not move the camera or do anything else other than select the unit.
On July 16 2009 06:42 alucardme87 wrote: I think the newest ver is still has some bugs. I try it on the first mission of chapter 4. When i got to my high templar troop. The camera changed to the lower right base and the game freezed. It's not actually freezed, but i can not move the camera or do anything else other than select the unit.
it sounds like it freezes when you hit a ums "vision move" trigger. Not sure what it's actually called, but with the different resolution, it sounds like the "center" action is screwed up
On July 16 2009 08:27 CharlieMurphy wrote: This thread is huge, does this work along side chaos?
you wouldn't really want to play with it, as the bugs make it unplayable anyway (most notably, minimap clicking and auto screen centering with the double hotkey press).
Just throw the bwl where you normally put Chaos plugins. Also, make sure the ResolutionExpander.dll and the ini file from the original download are in that folder as well. Then simply launch the game through Chaos with that plugin checked and it should work.
HOLY SH.T ! BRILLANT ! Seriously ? I'D LOVE to play with this resolution all day 'n night ! Or at least watch replays with this one to not make it too cheatable :p God. Plz keep up the good work !
Someone probably already mentioned this but there is a bug where it shows where burrowed lurkers (zergs) are if you don't have obs (You can't hit them, but you can see the burrowed sprites on the screen).
Clicking move or right clicking a rally point from a structure works on the minimap, but issuing a command or pressing R and clicking the minimap doesn't work, units seemed to go bottom middle.
fix all the bugs for this and it'd be fucking awesome.
Can someone please accomodate a complete computer illiterate by providing me with DETAILED directions on how to install and use this hack? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks A lot!
All I had to do was Download, use Winzip or Winrar to unzip the file(I didnt even unzip it to my SC directory, just plopped it on the desktop), open "ResSettings" (to do this, right click -> Open With -> Notepad) and change Screen Width and screen height with my resolutions.
Also, you guys having problems running it, I have it working fine at 1920 x 1080 at the most recent version.
Edit - as well, I'm not having any bug issues at all with it... I can clicky the minimap fine, I don't have sprite issues, and I'm even running Vista 64bit, the most unstable of them all!
Maybe the SC gods are gracing me or something... the OP is updated with the newest version, make sure you guys have that.
Can you please explain to me how you apply this notepad adjustment (which I was able to accomplish) to the game? I don't understand, I changed the resolution setting but it doesn't affect the game and I'm not sure why it would if I simply open the Ressettings icon and change the resolution. How does it know what I'm applying it to and how do I denote what I'm applying it to (i.e. SC BW)?
On July 17 2009 12:44 Dmm wrote: Can you please explain to me how you apply this notepad adjustment (which I was able to accomplish) to the game? I don't understand, I changed the resolution setting but it doesn't affect the game and I'm not sure why it would if I simply open the Ressettings icon and change the resolution. How does it know what I'm applying it to and how do I denote what I'm applying it to (i.e. SC BW)?
I have the resolution hack in a subfolder of my starcraft folder. I don't have to point it to SC, it knows what to load. If the resolution you put in doesn't seem to make a change, try a different one. Mine didn't work with the first resolution I tried, but it worked with my second choice. Just double click the "insect loader" and if your SC loads looking different, you're good to go.
- it does not seem to work for a pirated copy of sc. It tries to load StarCraft but then shuts down. - it does not seem to work for the iccup version of sc, it says game.dll not found..
any ideas? I copied the resolution hack over at the sc folder and I'm running the launcher on the folder itself.
no that's not how they do it in movies. In movies they record like four times from different points on the map, and then mash them together to get one big view. It's tedious work.
When I run the exe I immediately get the error before bw loads and when I return to the desktop colours are fucked and on display properties it's using 8 bit colour as opposed to whatever it is normally. Colours unfuck when I restore it to normal bit colour.
On December 28 2009 05:13 KwarK wrote: Got the english version of
. Bad times.
When I run the exe I immediately get the error before bw loads and when I return to the desktop colours are fucked and on display properties it's using 8 bit colour as opposed to whatever it is normally. Colours unfuck when I restore it to normal bit colour.
i gues this doesnt work anymore in 2017? i managed to get it run once, and i saw the Hellsinct text on the bottom ingame. but it doesnt run again, everything back to old resolution (
EPT
replay in 1280x800 resolution on my wide screen is fucking pimp, thanks :D
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