On July 01 2009 16:11 Strelok. wrote:
1. Subject: Re: btw
Date: 6/26/09 13:19
SDM's final ruling:
Replay both game 1 and game 2. So go ahead and tell Fenix, I just emailed him too.

Do you see word final here or it's only mine vision?

2. During the game vs Fenix we had very many issues i didn't want to talk previously, since i didn't want to discuss that game, but about which i talk now:
a) We couldn't arrrange games during more then 2 weeks.
b) He wanted to play only between 23:00 CET and 04:00 CET. He coudldn't play other time due to his univercity. This time was unacceptable for me, because i usually sleep this time. Admin didn't do anything to deal with the problem.
c) When we, at last, met - we got straight lag in both games (even Fenix talked about that in the replay). Drop table appeared several times, so that is why i said the games are EVEN. Because if i dropped him game N1 when he got lead, he would have complainted either.
d) the last thing is about this game. I don't want to break out Valor rules, so i won't post replay here. Anyway i will just point out on our final position. If they cast replay you will see it yourself.
- upgrades. i have 1-1, he has 1-0. Both making 2 more.
- limits. I have 170, protoss has 142.
- high tech. His arbiter still not out, though his storms should be ready in 10 seconds.
- number of bases. I had 3 and 4-th just incoming. He had 3 and 2 just incoming. Though he had problems with probes, so some bases wouldn't work properly anyways.
- final point. In just 1 minute i collect 185 limit and go straight to 8 and 7 o clock bases. He would have had maximum 160-165 limit at this time, no statis, 3 stormers. It's not enough to hold such push. He can't counter with recall. Ofc such limit is not enough to counter just by ground. The game would be finished in 3 or 5 mins maximum i'm pretty sure about that. So just... watch replay, make your own opinion.

and LG)Sabbath Argentina. July 01 2009 13:52. Posts 2268
I won't return to the tournament even if they give me 1-0 lead or autowin. I already made decision.

I think it's hilarious that you actually want to replay both game one and game two. That's completely unfair and you know it. And don't give me this "final decision" nonsense. The final decision is the last decision. Hurr.

I also find it hilarious that you said you wouldn't go into details about the game, and yet here you are, going into details.

Also, congrats to Fenix for winning the Bo1 and advancing to the next round!

LxRogue

United States1415 Posts

July 02 2009 07:04 GMT

#83

I don't feel comfortable taking sides here, but it seems like both Strelok and the admins could have handled this better.

Lipton may be a great guy, and you can't blame him, but it's pretty essential to have somebody who can act as a knowledgeable admin on-hand. Even if they aren't observing the game, they should be in contact.

I think Strelok could have been more understanding after the DC. Apparently there never was a decision made on whether to start over from game 1, or to go to game 3. So even if the phrase "final decision" was used, it doesn't look like they were ready to start the next game.

Schnake

Germany2819 Posts

July 02 2009 07:25 GMT

#84

On July 02 2009 15:20 KhaosKreator wrote:

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Strelok does not want to replay both games in the sense that he demands it, this decision was made by SDM / Lipton as you can see under 1.). Strelok, however, wants them to stand by their final decision to replay both games, which I do not agree with, because it was a stupid decision that should not have been done in the first place.

In general, final decisions should be final decisions to prevent arbitrariness but in this case it was obvious that the decision was bad and needed to be reconsidered.

errol1001

454 Posts

July 02 2009 13:53 GMT

#85

On July 02 2009 13:34 pubbanana wrote:

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How about clicking his profile?

Oh, thanks.

nttea

Sweden4353 Posts

July 02 2009 14:30 GMT

#86

Link doesn't work for me T_T

QuoC

United States724 Posts

July 02 2009 18:00 GMT

#87

tasteless, you ARE the man.

thopol

Japan4560 Posts

July 02 2009 19:14 GMT

#88

I understand where Tasteless, Daniel, and Lipton are coming from and their position makes a lot of sense. That said, I also understand how Strelok would have seen the whole thing. I'm sad he's dropping out but I see why. I wish him all the best for future competition.

Merano

Austria105 Posts

July 02 2009 21:32 GMT

#89

this story makes me really sad

how about a best-of-7 between streklok and fenix that is funded by donations of the community here or some sponsors; this would be much more entertaining

Lycaeus

United States1420 Posts

July 04 2009 06:40 GMT

#90

Why continue with the drama? Both parties won't be satisfied fully and strelok already dropped out. So like tasteless said, on with the show.

IMO: Strelok's game vs fenix was fairly even, If I had to put my money on the players, I would still place it on toss.

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