After all the drama that's been going on with the Valor tournament, Tasteless felt the need to make a statement. Instead of just making some response in a thread that will get washed away, a more indepth video was made.

Tasteless Statement

Showtime!

Canada2938 Posts

July 01 2009 04:02 GMT

Verrry nice. Thanks Dan, checking it out now.

EDIT: Exactly as I expected: Lipton collects the reps and distributes them. You should have replayed the fucking game. This happens in WGTCL all the time.

tree.hugger

Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts

July 01 2009 04:03 GMT

It all makes sense.

Except the decision to film it outside on the busy street. Would it have been really sketchy to film it in a quieter room? I think this should be the new controversy.

RushWifDietCoke

United States488 Posts

July 01 2009 04:05 GMT

Thanks Artosis, nice to get an inside view of whats going on.

houseurmusic

United States544 Posts

July 01 2009 04:09 GMT

Well said. Thank your for the clarification tasteless.

InToTheWannaB

United States4770 Posts

July 01 2009 04:12 GMT

dunka

gokai

United States812 Posts

July 01 2009 04:18 GMT

Nice. The situation was very explained.

On July 01 2009 13:03 tree.hugger wrote:
It all makes sense.

Except the decision to film it outside on the busy street. Would it have been really sketchy to film it in a quieter room? I think this should be the new controversy.

What are you talking about. I had no problems hearing what Tasteless said.

usopsama

6502 Posts

July 01 2009 04:26 GMT

I don't watch Valor but thanks for the explanation anyway, Tasteless.

StarBrift

Sweden1761 Posts

July 01 2009 04:31 GMT

Good call by Tasteless. He didn't have to do this but did so anyway to clear up any confusion. Big props.

Sadistx

Zimbabwe5568 Posts

July 01 2009 04:33 GMT

#10

Very professional response by Tasteless. Hopefully Strelok comes back into the tournament and finishes

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

July 01 2009 04:37 GMT

#11

thanks dan / nick <3

LG)Sabbath

Argentina3022 Posts

July 01 2009 04:52 GMT

#12

I also think that Strelok should just come back to the tournament and play, after all his point is already made in the other thread and was discussed and seen by many people.

Tasteless is clearly doing his best for things to go smoothly and although I think he kind of missed the point that Strelok was trying to make, there is just no point in discussing it any further as we know that he would have made a good decision in the first place if he had been there.

illu

Canada2531 Posts

July 01 2009 05:40 GMT

#13

Can anyone explain the drama in words?

Yaqoob

Canada3323 Posts

July 01 2009 06:01 GMT

#14

On July 01 2009 14:40 illu wrote:
Can anyone explain the drama in words?

Its explained in words in the video. Watch the video.

JWD

United States12607 Posts

July 01 2009 06:06 GMT

#15

First off, props to Tasteless for giving us his side of this story.

The gist of this video is that Tasteless denies that Lipton or Daniel Lee ever gave Strelok a "final decision". His implication is that Strelok either totally misinterpreted Lipton and Daniel Lee, or that Strelok understood their decision was not final and was simply lying in his OP here.

I'm not sure how to reconcile this with the fact that both Strelok (biased) and Artosis (unbiased) wrote that Lipton / "admins" had issued a "decision" on the disconnect.

Husky

United States3362 Posts

July 01 2009 06:27 GMT

#16

Thanks for this, good to get some clarity.

Etherone

United States1898 Posts

July 01 2009 06:48 GMT

#17

having read and hear both sides of it, i hate to say this but, I believe that Strelok is in the right here. The decision should have been made asap and since this was not possible, then SDM's decision should have been final.

If they agree that SDM and Lipton do not have the know how or authority to make a tournament decision such as this they should have simply asked both players to bear with them and wait till Tasteless was available to make a verdict. this was not the case afaik.

I also agree that the standard would be to replay the game of the disconnect as opposed to the entire match, but once SDM stated the entire set would be replayed, independently of whether or not he said "final decision", it is exactly that, unless clearly stated otherwise.

I thank tasteless for giving us his side of it, and i understand he is in a difficult position of deciding whether to retract what the others decided (wrongly), or to do what should have been done in the first place, but in the process retracting their authority.

ZeitgeistMovie

144 Posts

July 01 2009 07:01 GMT

#18

I doubt it was a "work in progress" as Tasteless said. I think a decision was made, but was taken back when Artosis saw the replays and contacted Tasteless. Why would Strelok just out right lie about that? He's shown no history of doing that. IMO, he seems like the most honest in this whole debacle.

Idle

Korea (South)124 Posts

July 01 2009 07:05 GMT

#19

Good to hear it from the people in charge here. Nick gives some good clarity to the situation and it's pretty clear they made the right call. Its too bad Strelok couldn't accept that I was rooting for him to do well.

Kyuki

Sweden1867 Posts

July 01 2009 07:06 GMT

#20

On July 01 2009 15:06 JWD wrote:
First off, props to Tasteless for giving us his side of this story.

The gist of this video is that Tasteless denies that Lipton or Daniel Lee ever gave Strelok a "final decision". His implication is that Strelok either totally misinterpreted Lipton and Daniel Lee, or that Strelok understood their decision was not final and was simply lying in his OP here.

I'm not sure how to reconcile this with the fact that both Strelok (biased) and Artosis (unbiased) wrote that Lipton / "admins" had issued a "decision" on the disconnect.

Tasteless stressed "Final" quite a few times, obviously there were initial decisions that had to be done (i.e Lipton making a decision on the spot with X help) and after further discussion it would lead to a Final Decision.

It's been a communication problem from the start, and I cant see how one shouldnt take this as a learning experience, and just brush it off and play the fucking game from now on.