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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-28 01:40:45
May 04 2009 12:59 GMT
#1
Hi,

I'll present you a small php application I am currently working on. I will be updating this thread as I update the application.

LINK

Before complaining about how it looks or that its slow, read the rest of the thread .


The problem:

If you look at this search you will see that those threads appear on a regular basis. Each user creating his/her own thread results in chaos. There are attempts in creating a more organized way, for example This thread, but such a thread has to be manually updated by the op or a mod. If they get bigger it is also harder to keep an overview.


The solution:

A simple web-based interface, that allows searching partners for sc training. Users are able to register with a number of informations, other users can search for matching training partners and contact them.


Features/changelog

+ Show Spoiler +

v0.4:
-Added measurement for activity. Í won't go into the details how it exactly works, but you need to use (or at least stop by when you are online) the channel:
op art
Where Cascade and I set up a bot.
-some colors for the tables.


v0.3:

-made tables sortable
-you can collapse contact data by clicking it again
-minor tweaks in display


v0.2:
Changes:
-Password system to prevent abuse, register(or change your data) with a password of your choice
-Additional fields for contact data: iccup profile, msn, aim, yahoo, icq and xfire
-New and more intuitive way of searching for partners, which also allows displaying a higher range of ranks
-Only existing TL-accounts can join now

Bugfixes:
-Accounts with spaces should now work properly


v0.1:
Initial version.
-register with your tl account and the matchups you want to play+your rank in those
-no security, not so much a feature, but currently I rely on trusting you not to spam it with B- combat-ex smurfs and not to change chills account to D-
-filter players by matchup(s) you want to play, displaying players of the same rank and +-2 ranks (unsure results in displaying all players of that matchup)
-contact a player you want to play with by his tl.net profile (link on the player name)



Possible additions

-visuals: it currently features no design at all, I will change that sooner or later, functionality comes first
-timezone field for finding partners at appropriate times
-activity system, so inactive people won't be displayed but still be stored. Something along the lines of set your status to active every 2 weeks or so.
-get rank from iccup profile (needs a solution for matchup specific ranks)
-Having a channel with a bot to determine activity/get user information from the bot
-Password recovery system
-Your suggestion, think it, post it


LINK


The channel for this project is:
op art
On iccup.
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 13:25:01
May 04 2009 13:01 GMT
#2
Nice idea, i hope it works out

Edit2: Got a 404 at first, works fine now
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 04 2009 13:04 GMT
#3
On May 04 2009 22:01 stet_tcl wrote:
link doesn't work


Works for me, but it was really slow sometimes while testing it.

Can you say what it says? Doesn't work is not really helpful.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 04 2009 13:05 GMT
#4
Link is dead.
Moderator
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 04 2009 13:10 GMT
#5
On May 04 2009 22:05 Chill wrote:
Link is dead.


404? If someone knows a better free host, it needs to have php support and an mysql database.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
May 04 2009 13:14 GMT
#6
try kilu.de
i use it for quite a long time now and i'm very happy with it
http://twitter.com/jhNz
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 04 2009 13:15 GMT
#7
not sure but i wanna train with some1
race: Z
highest: D+
wanna train with T [prefer SK terran,mech is boring but still can train]
no. of games: till i say stop lol
iccup nick : rocketdark darkrocket
currently using darkrocket account

whatever just pm me and i add u
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 13:43:00
May 04 2009 13:42 GMT
#8
One MAJOR problem... it reverses the races in the listing.

So for example I said I was C- in PvZ but in the listing it says zvp: and then it lists me as C- even tho my ZvP is D+.

Also there's no link to the listing so you kind of have to glitch it by selecting some shit and then hitting submit without having setup a username first.

Also the site is pretty unbearably slow T_T
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
May 04 2009 13:53 GMT
#9
Link does not work for me. :O
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 14:02:01
May 04 2009 13:59 GMT
#10
One MAJOR problem... it reverses the races in the listing.

So for example I said I was C- in PvZ but in the listing it says zvp: and then it lists me as C- even tho my ZvP is D+.

Also there's no link to the listing so you kind of have to glitch it by selecting some shit and then hitting submit without having setup a username first.

Also the site is pretty unbearably slow T_T


Thinking about it, it can really be confusing. What it does is save your pvz as C-, which it does correctly.

You being listed as C- under zvp suggests you as a C- training partner for a zerg player, who is searching for Tosses.

The listing is the page itself, you just select what matchups you are searching, and it will show you appropriate training partners. When having the username field you are on the registration page. Proper design would make this clear, I guess I need to prioritise that.

Edit:
I just got the Kilu confirmation mail. I'll try setting it up there.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 04 2009 14:02 GMT
#11
On May 04 2009 22:42 -orb- wrote:
One MAJOR problem... it reverses the races in the listing.

So for example I said I was C- in PvZ but in the listing it says zvp: and then it lists me as C- even tho my ZvP is D+.

Also there's no link to the listing so you kind of have to glitch it by selecting some shit and then hitting submit without having setup a username first.

Also the site is pretty unbearably slow T_T

This
it says im b- in pvz but I don't even play toss, if this can be fixed this could be something great
You can't fight the feeling.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 14:07:21
May 04 2009 14:06 GMT
#12
On May 04 2009 23:02 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2009 22:42 -orb- wrote:
One MAJOR problem... it reverses the races in the listing.

So for example I said I was C- in PvZ but in the listing it says zvp: and then it lists me as C- even tho my ZvP is D+.

Also there's no link to the listing so you kind of have to glitch it by selecting some shit and then hitting submit without having setup a username first.

Also the site is pretty unbearably slow T_T

This
it says im b- in pvz but I don't even play toss, if this can be fixed this could be something great



Like in the reply above, it lists you as a b- pvz training partner. From the perspective of the protoss player searching partners for pvz it is correct. Sorry if this is really confusing, I'll think about something that will make this clearer.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 04 2009 14:23 GMT
#13
From all perspective's, if you state pvz that means you're playing protoss, not zerg.
or if you're saying tvz or tvp, you're stating that you are terran. So it's not exactly "confusing" it's just completely wrong.
You can't fight the feeling.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 04 2009 14:38 GMT
#14
This is a pretty sweet idea. If just it wasn't so slow/confusing, more people would eagerly add themselves...
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 04 2009 18:37 GMT
#15
Ok, I changed the host and made some minor changes to the layout, which should make it easier to use and added a function to list all players.

I am also using a new host, which you can find here. Updated the links in the op too.

If you registered before, you need to do it again, since I am using a new database.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
May 04 2009 18:45 GMT
#16
This is cool... Is working now for me... I tried it a couple of hours and go and got 404 error.


Hopefully a lot of people will use this. At the least this is an awesome idea.
systranerror
Profile Joined November 2008
United States27 Posts
May 04 2009 18:47 GMT
#17
No idea how this is confusing, it took me 10 seconds to register.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 04 2009 18:51 GMT
#18
On May 05 2009 03:47 systranerror wrote:
No idea how this is confusing, it took me 10 seconds to register.


Remember that this version has some details changed, and the old host was impossible to reach

I added a sortable all users table to the possible addition lists. Does someone have wishes on what to add first?
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
May 04 2009 18:52 GMT
#19
done, nice
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 04 2009 18:53 GMT
#20
ok i did it right but I accidentally put a 2nd entry in there. thought i'd be able to delete it/change the name
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 04 2009 18:55 GMT
#21
The new host is a lot more convenient to use . Mods should definitely put this out in the front page for a couple of days
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 18:56:13
May 04 2009 18:55 GMT
#22
o wow this is nice. I hope it works Also could you have more contact info other than icc name?
iluvtofu
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States24 Posts
May 04 2009 18:55 GMT
#23
This is pretty cool website function but there's one concern that will arise. How about making the website delete users that are inactive for 5 months? Individuals will start leaving their names there even though they discontinued playing the game. This will allow people that are eager to look for partner have a more instant approach.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 04 2009 19:05 GMT
#24
I hope this works
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
May 04 2009 19:06 GMT
#25
SWEET!
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 19:08:46
May 04 2009 19:07 GMT
#26
On May 05 2009 03:55 iluvtofu wrote:
This is pretty cool website function but there's one concern that will arise. How about making the website delete users that are inactive for 5 months? Individuals will start leaving their names there even though they discontinued playing the game. This will allow people that are eager to look for partner have a more instant approach.


Look on my possible additions list, I am rather thinking about something along the lines of hide users after 2 weeks, if they don't set their account to active.

On May 05 2009 03:55 Racenilatr wrote:
o wow this is nice. I hope it works Also could you have more contact info other than icc name?


It should be tl-account. It is also on the "todo" list and has the highest priority right now. Oh and I guess I need to check if that TL.net account exists.

On May 05 2009 03:55 o3.power91 wrote:
The new host is a lot more convenient to use . Mods should definitely put this out in the front page for a couple of days


Most people will see it sooner or later anyway and I'd rather add more functionality first.
mnc dover
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 19:31:03
May 04 2009 19:11 GMT
#27
I love this concept. Very cool way for similar skill leveled players to match up without worrying about getting crushed. Unfortunately, I do think the layout is a bit confusing. Could you perhaps alter the layout so its easier to understand. Something like this:

I am a (insert drop down menu that has Terran, Zerg, and Protoss names) player who is looking for a (insert drop down menu that has Terran, Zerg, and Protoss names) player who is at (insert the D through A menu) level in skill.

Wow, did I just made it sound like some kind of weird SC dating site?

Edit: I signed up. When I click on my name in the matchup selections, it doesn't link to my profile here of TL.net. It says, "the name MNC was not found."

It looks like there might be something with having a space in the profile name. Of course, everyone else has a continuous name, so testing this out my be a problem.
www.mondaynightcrew.com
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 19:37:55
May 04 2009 19:37 GMT
#28
This looks like a really cool system, I added most the people that corresponded with my request on the tl. buddy list, so hopefully people will get into contact.

Maybe also something that could be added to the list, is a prefered timetable to play, that automatically translates that into say CET or KST, depending on what you want, that could be really cool.

Maybe also point out an official iccupchannel for this project?
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 04 2009 19:44 GMT
#29
On May 05 2009 04:11 mnc dover wrote:
I love this concept. Very cool way for similar skill leveled players to match up without worrying about getting crushed. Unfortunately, I do think the layout is a bit confusing. Could you perhaps alter the layout so its easier to understand. Something like this:

I am a (insert drop down menu that has Terran, Zerg, and Protoss names) player who is looking for a (insert drop down menu that has Terran, Zerg, and Protoss names) player who is at (insert the D through A menu) level in skill.


Sounds good, I am going to look into this.

On May 05 2009 04:11 mnc dover wrote:Edit: I signed up. When I click on my name in the matchup selections, it doesn't link to my profile here of TL.net. It says, "the name MNC was not found."

It looks like there might be something with having a space in the profile name. Of course, everyone else has a continuous name, so testing this out my be a problem.


I didn't anticipate that you can use spaces in your TL.net name . From the looks of it it is just a problem with the links, I'll try to fix it as soon as I get back on this.

On May 05 2009 04:37 Chanted wrote:
Maybe also point out an official iccupchannel for this project?


op irc?

The timezone thing is also on my list already, could you guys please read that before suggesting stuff?
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 04 2009 19:50 GMT
#30
so nice !!! thanks for this :D
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
May 04 2009 19:51 GMT
#31
i really like your idea good work perhaps it needs a little more tuning and it can become the "Official" TL training partner search
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 04 2009 21:39 GMT
#32
yay bump :D
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 04 2009 21:42 GMT
#33
Thanks, very nice initiative.
Moderator
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-04 21:54:10
May 04 2009 21:50 GMT
#34
Hi you must make it secure, there are too many retards changing data. I've had mine changed 3 times now.

(To the op thank you, please pm plexa, I imagine you two could exchange a few ideas!)
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 04 2009 21:54 GMT
#35
On May 05 2009 06:50 AttackZerg wrote:
Hi you must make it secure, there are too many retards changing data. I've had mine changed 3 times now.

Maybe it could be integrated into TL? Not sure, someone has to talk to Bob or R1CH or Zatic
Moderator
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3323 Posts
May 04 2009 21:54 GMT
#36
On May 05 2009 06:50 AttackZerg wrote:
Hi you must make it secure, there are too many retards changing data. I've had mine changed 3 times now.

I had the same problem. I had mine changed 2 times already.
김택용 Fighting!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 04 2009 22:02 GMT
#37
On May 05 2009 06:54 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 06:50 AttackZerg wrote:
Hi you must make it secure, there are too many retards changing data. I've had mine changed 3 times now.

Maybe it could be integrated into TL? Not sure, someone has to talk to Bob or R1CH or Zatic


This is more or less what me and plexa spent an hour talking about last week!

I'm praying =)
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 04 2009 22:09 GMT
#38
lol wtf, why do people change the data so much?
i thought users @TL.net are a bit more mannered and trust-worthy......wth seriously
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 04 2009 22:14 GMT
#39
So definately integrate this into TL.net, so that just users who are logged in can change their own data and thats it.
Also make it a bit less confusing and advertise a iccupchannel for this.
op TLTPD would work i guess. "TeamLiquid Training Partner Database"
or op TLTD
or op TTPD :D
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 04 2009 22:22 GMT
#40
On May 05 2009 07:14 MasterReY wrote:
So definately integrate this into TL.net, so that just users who are logged in can change their own data and thats it.
Also make it a bit less confusing and advertise a iccupchannel for this.
op TLTPD would work i guess. "TeamLiquid Training Partner Database"
or op TLTD
or op TTPD :D



The channel should have a bot that intergrates who is active on iccup, while the feature on the website with the stats well you who is on teamliquid.net and ranking info.

This way you can easily connect. Once iccup and teamliquid have even a mild intergration the system will be super effective and very very helpfull.

Me and plexa talked about some great features that could go behind this.

I'm so excited!
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
May 04 2009 22:26 GMT
#41
Very great idea now i gotta play iccup more often to have a better idea for my MUs before I decide to enter em in.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
May 04 2009 23:51 GMT
#42
u sir a badass
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 05 2009 00:13 GMT
#43
I have already gotten 2 players in my rank who are looking for zvz and zvt practice.

I've never gotten feedback this quickly. Thank you!
yann
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
119 Posts
May 05 2009 00:20 GMT
#44
wonderful idea! kudoS to you!!!
My life for Aiur!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 05 2009 00:23 GMT
#45
On May 05 2009 07:22 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 07:14 MasterReY wrote:
So definately integrate this into TL.net, so that just users who are logged in can change their own data and thats it.
Also make it a bit less confusing and advertise a iccupchannel for this.
op TLTPD would work i guess. "TeamLiquid Training Partner Database"
or op TLTD
or op TTPD :D



The channel should have a bot that intergrates who is active on iccup, while the feature on the website with the stats well you who is on teamliquid.net and ranking info.

This way you can easily connect. Once iccup and teamliquid have even a mild intergration the system will be super effective and very very helpfull.

Me and plexa talked about some great features that could go behind this.

I'm so excited!

It could replace the now useless Op TL-West bot at top.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 05 2009 06:40 GMT
#46
Bump. Trying to get more people to see this if they haven't already
SilentNoodle
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia290 Posts
May 05 2009 07:39 GMT
#47
Is it just for TL.net users or can we spread it around everywhere?
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
May 05 2009 07:56 GMT
#48
On May 05 2009 16:39 SilentNoodle wrote:
Is it just for TL.net users or can we spread it around everywhere?


TL probably and i agree if it is.

this should definitely be integrated with TL epic initiative
SilentNoodle
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia290 Posts
May 05 2009 08:14 GMT
#49
On May 05 2009 16:56 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 16:39 SilentNoodle wrote:
Is it just for TL.net users or can we spread it around everywhere?


TL probably and i agree if it is.

this should definitely be integrated with TL epic initiative


that's fine with me, i think it's a great idea :D
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
May 05 2009 08:17 GMT
#50
This is great. TL should incorporate it with the website and more work on it will be a really huge hit!
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 05 2009 08:22 GMT
#51
Suggestions:
- Work in the results interface, the list of results is a little long, maybe displaying results in 3 panels as columns could be better.
- Add a TL background image. Yes please.
Overall great iniciative.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 05 2009 16:21 GMT
#52
Having it integrated in TL would be great. The motivation here was to practice/get some more experience with php though, therefore my code is not of a very high quality. We'll have to see.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 05 2009 16:28 GMT
#53
Would be sweet if it was integrated into the site and could be linked to online iccup accounts or something.
Nak Allstar.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 05 2009 16:34 GMT
#54
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 18:17:02
May 05 2009 18:10 GMT
#55
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
May 05 2009 18:18 GMT
#56
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 05 2009 18:31 GMT
#57
On May 06 2009 03:18 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.


1. i never said im B overall
2. I stopped really playing seriously on that acc over a month ago. After that i practiced alot with clanmates or others and improved alot. (if you don't believe me i'll get B- with >50% winratio at least next season)
3. i don't see any point in lying about the rank. If i find people to practice with this database and they see that im in fact some D+ newbie then they would stop after one game and it wouldn't last long til the word gets spread in this thread or in a possible channel for this.
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 05 2009 23:39 GMT
#58
With a channel bot with access to the database there could be a channel where people go and the bot will log the time/date when they logged on. This way inactive (not online for ?? weeks could be hidden from the list) people could be hidden easily.
If the bot has access to the database might aswell allow you to query it, to get the players of your rank displayed in the channel.

Stealthbot can run scripts in VBScript, so getting a simple query to run will be definately be doable.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 05 2009 23:49 GMT
#59
On May 06 2009 03:31 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 03:18 Harem wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.


1. i never said im B overall
2. I stopped really playing seriously on that acc over a month ago. After that i practiced alot with clanmates or others and improved alot. (if you don't believe me i'll get B- with >50% winratio at least next season)
3. i don't see any point in lying about the rank. If i find people to practice with this database and they see that im in fact some D+ newbie then they would stop after one game and it wouldn't last long til the word gets spread in this thread or in a possible channel for this.

sorry to derail the thread any further, but if you're 55% C rank with nearly 100 games, you aren't getting to 50% B
You can't fight the feeling.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 06 2009 07:37 GMT
#60
Bump.

Everybody on teamliquid who doesn't want to suck forever needs to be in this!! (JK)

I refuse to let this ever get burried, even if I have to start inventing new ways to bump without saying it !

(I'm in it twice!!!!)

Kim_Hyun_Han
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
706 Posts
May 06 2009 10:56 GMT
#61
Ok registered

nice job mate
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 06 2009 12:32 GMT
#62
On May 06 2009 08:49 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 03:31 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:18 Harem wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.


1. i never said im B overall
2. I stopped really playing seriously on that acc over a month ago. After that i practiced alot with clanmates or others and improved alot. (if you don't believe me i'll get B- with >50% winratio at least next season)
3. i don't see any point in lying about the rank. If i find people to practice with this database and they see that im in fact some D+ newbie then they would stop after one game and it wouldn't last long til the word gets spread in this thread or in a possible channel for this.

sorry to derail the thread any further, but if you're 55% C rank with nearly 100 games, you aren't getting to 50% B


wow..... again: i don't said i get B T_T
I get B- with >50% and that will be ez because i reached C+ this season with >70% after that i stopped playing seriously.
The B is only my PvP, in which i had >90% on C+. Please don't mix PvP rank and overall rank anymore.
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TL+ Member
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-06 13:44:30
May 06 2009 13:34 GMT
#63
On May 06 2009 21:32 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 08:49 lokiM wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:31 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:18 Harem wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.


1. i never said im B overall
2. I stopped really playing seriously on that acc over a month ago. After that i practiced alot with clanmates or others and improved alot. (if you don't believe me i'll get B- with >50% winratio at least next season)
3. i don't see any point in lying about the rank. If i find people to practice with this database and they see that im in fact some D+ newbie then they would stop after one game and it wouldn't last long til the word gets spread in this thread or in a possible channel for this.

sorry to derail the thread any further, but if you're 55% C rank with nearly 100 games, you aren't getting to 50% B


wow..... again: i don't said i get B T_T
I get B- with >50% and that will be ez because i reached C+ this season with >70% after that i stopped playing seriously.
The B is only my PvP, in which i had >90% on C+. Please don't mix PvP rank and overall rank anymore.

to lokiM/Harem:
the purpose of this database is to match yourself with practice partners of the same levels as you are. If Rey puts himself as a B/B- rank he wants to practice with players of that same level. If he is lying about his rank, he is only hurting himself in not getting proper practice partners. I am sure he is a sensible person and wants to practice with people at C+/B-/B rank as he is around that skill range. Therefore only people of that range will be asking him to train with them.

In short, if he is lying, no one is hurt but him. A practice partner database is not the place you would want to flaunt high rank for no reason.

Edit: please stop trying to turn this thread into a shitfest. The OP deserves more respect than this
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 06 2009 20:38 GMT
#64
Bringing the first major update, I know call this version 0.2
Changes:
-Password system to prevent abuse, register(or change your data) with a password of your choice
-Additional fields for contact data: iccup profile, msn, aim, yahoo, icq and xfire
-New and more intuitive way of searching for partners, which also allows displaying a higher range of ranks
-Only existing TL-accounts can join now

Bugfixes:
-Accounts with spaces should now work properly


If someone wants to have the old way of selecting matchups to display, just post it here. I will put it back in as an option for the next version.

To change your data, just re-register, it will overwrite the old data.

If someone decides to be annoying and takes your password or you forget it, send me a pm, then I will reset it for you, so you can make a new one.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 06 2009 21:19 GMT
#65
On May 06 2009 22:34 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2009 21:32 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 08:49 lokiM wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:31 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:18 Harem wrote:
On May 06 2009 03:10 MasterReY wrote:
On May 06 2009 01:34 Harem wrote:
On May 05 2009 04:50 MasterReY wrote:
so nice !!! thanks for this :D

Why are you lying about your rank?


whats wrong?
play me in a bo5 or give any points to justify ur post please before making any statements

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/rey.html

You are sure B rank alright.


1. i never said im B overall
2. I stopped really playing seriously on that acc over a month ago. After that i practiced alot with clanmates or others and improved alot. (if you don't believe me i'll get B- with >50% winratio at least next season)
3. i don't see any point in lying about the rank. If i find people to practice with this database and they see that im in fact some D+ newbie then they would stop after one game and it wouldn't last long til the word gets spread in this thread or in a possible channel for this.

sorry to derail the thread any further, but if you're 55% C rank with nearly 100 games, you aren't getting to 50% B


wow..... again: i don't said i get B T_T
I get B- with >50% and that will be ez because i reached C+ this season with >70% after that i stopped playing seriously.
The B is only my PvP, in which i had >90% on C+. Please don't mix PvP rank and overall rank anymore.

to lokiM/Harem:
the purpose of this database is to match yourself with practice partners of the same levels as you are. If Rey puts himself as a B/B- rank he wants to practice with players of that same level. If he is lying about his rank, he is only hurting himself in not getting proper practice partners. I am sure he is a sensible person and wants to practice with people at C+/B-/B rank as he is around that skill range. Therefore only people of that range will be asking him to train with them.

In short, if he is lying, no one is hurt but him. A practice partner database is not the place you would want to flaunt high rank for no reason.

Edit: please stop trying to turn this thread into a shitfest. The OP deserves more respect than this

Thanks that there is someone who understands it finally.
There is no point in lying because it would just hurt myself.


https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 06 2009 21:20 GMT
#66
On May 07 2009 05:38 h3r1n6 wrote:
Bringing the first major update, I know call this version 0.2
Changes:
-Password system to prevent abuse, register(or change your data) with a password of your choice
-Additional fields for contact data: iccup profile, msn, aim, yahoo, icq and xfire
-New and more intuitive way of searching for partners, which also allows displaying a higher range of ranks
-Only existing TL-accounts can join now

Bugfixes:
-Accounts with spaces should now work properly


If someone wants to have the old way of selecting matchups to display, just post it here. I will put it back in as an option for the next version.

To change your data, just re-register, it will overwrite the old data.

If someone decides to be annoying and takes your password or you forget it, send me a pm, then I will reset it for you, so you can make a new one.



OH FUCK huuuuuge update.
your so nice. this develops into something very very great and useful !!!

GOOD JOB :D
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
May 06 2009 21:27 GMT
#67
Yay for passwords
mG.SpriteLove
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 07 2009 05:05 GMT
#68
wow your a fucking stud.


Thank you so much.


I see big things in your near futures (wink wink!)
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
May 07 2009 05:44 GMT
#69
Hey who's the fan that registered me as A-?
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
May 07 2009 05:48 GMT
#70
Xib, YOU ARE A- LOL
You can't fight the feeling.
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
May 07 2009 05:48 GMT
#71
This thing is fuckin cool. You guys needa make this a tab on the site or something. I signed up , any terrans B+ or above feel free to hit me up for some TvT training
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 07 2009 12:18 GMT
#72
lol the new interface looks like a BW dating site Still pretty cool. :D
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
May 07 2009 12:29 GMT
#73
done. very nice initiative =)
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
May 07 2009 17:25 GMT
#74
On May 07 2009 21:18 o3.power91 wrote:
lol the new interface looks like a BW dating site Still pretty cool. :D



ASL? On a more serious note..... bump.

OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
May 07 2009 17:37 GMT
#75
this is really cool. i signed up, feel free to msg me on iccup whenever!
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
May 07 2009 17:42 GMT
#76
nice registered, looking for D+'s to practice with!
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
May 07 2009 18:00 GMT
#77
Thanks for this, just registered, good job!
BW4Life!
K_ Takahashi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States203 Posts
May 07 2009 18:52 GMT
#78
Nice system/database that I had to register. Hopefully I can improve on this D- slump
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 20:01:27
May 07 2009 20:00 GMT
#79
This is great. I don't think I will use it as I don't play very seriously and prefer random games when I do, but really nice idea.

I will register later.

One thing I noticed though - when you click the "Contact Info" button, the box with the info expands. Yet you cannot click it(Contact Info) again to collapse the box.. gets annoying if you open alot of boxes.

Also, did anyone mention adding online/offline status?

Anyway, good work, guy!

Edit: Small fix.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-07 22:42:35
May 07 2009 22:38 GMT
#80
Nice job!

A suggestion is to add is nationality maybe?
And to look for all matchups? Terran searching for z,t,p?
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
May 07 2009 22:50 GMT
#81
Its a cool idea, but a lot of people are lying about their rank its so stupid...
I was searching for C- / C people and their accounts ares like D 23-31
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
May 07 2009 23:00 GMT
#82
Added myself... If anyone wants to find a terrible, terrible D- Zerg, hit me up.
Yaki's Streaming Madness: twitch.tv/YakiSC ||| FRB Grand Tournament Organizer ||| @YakiStarCraft ||| Youtube.com/YakiStarCraft
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 07 2009 23:07 GMT
#83
On May 08 2009 07:38 Lobbo wrote:
Nice job!

A suggestion is to add is nationality maybe?
And to look for all matchups? Terran searching for z,t,p?



The old selection menu would allow that, I will bring that as an option sooner or later.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 07 2009 23:17 GMT
#84
On May 08 2009 07:50 Rutluv wrote:
Its a cool idea, but a lot of people are lying about their rank its so stupid...
I was searching for C- / C people and their accounts ares like D 23-31



The only thing I could do is read the rank from the iccup profile. Then the mu specific rank would be limited to somewhere near your real iccup rank.

This creates a few problems though, if a B player just didn't get to play and his account is still at D, he won't be able to select B. And ICCup can still be abused.

As masterrey said correctly, the only one you are hurting with lying about your rank is yourself. That being said, as long as I am relying on Starcraft running on a virtual machine, I need to put my rank lower, brb


Maybe it could use a karma system, where you can vote people up and down, based on things like activity, manner and real rank vs projected rank.
yakitate304
Profile Joined April 2009
United States655 Posts
May 07 2009 23:42 GMT
#85
On May 08 2009 08:17 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2009 07:50 Rutluv wrote:
Its a cool idea, but a lot of people are lying about their rank its so stupid...
I was searching for C- / C people and their accounts ares like D 23-31



The only thing I could do is read the rank from the iccup profile. Then the mu specific rank would be limited to somewhere near your real iccup rank.

This creates a few problems though, if a B player just didn't get to play and his account is still at D, he won't be able to select B. And ICCup can still be abused.

As masterrey said correctly, the only one you are hurting with lying about your rank is yourself. That being said, as long as I am relying on Starcraft running on a virtual machine, I need to put my rank lower, brb


Maybe it could use a karma system, where you can vote people up and down, based on things like activity, manner and real rank vs projected rank.

My "real rank" is D-... My "projected rank" would be FFF-.
Yaki's Streaming Madness: twitch.tv/YakiSC ||| FRB Grand Tournament Organizer ||| @YakiStarCraft ||| Youtube.com/YakiStarCraft
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 08 2009 01:13 GMT
#86
This is a cool idea I've already met up with a few people because of this.
extracheez
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia151 Posts
May 08 2009 01:28 GMT
#87
Thanks for stealing my idea without letting me know hering

GJ lol it looks awesome.
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
May 09 2009 12:12 GMT
#88
Can you embed this somehow on the site itself(as if with the stream thing on the top of the site)? This way we would get a lot more attention and hence more players.
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
May 09 2009 12:16 GMT
#89
And I'd really like it if you'd make it compulsory to add your iccup profile when you register. That way we could know instantly who to contact on Iccup without all the PM hassle. Makes easier to choose similiar skill level opponents aswell.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 23:47:48
May 09 2009 23:43 GMT
#90
I'll bring you a not as big update this time .

v0.3:

-made tables sortable
-you can collapse contact data by clicking it again
-minor tweaks in display


Edit:
The next major step in this will be having a channel bot. The problem is that I need a place to run it.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16985 Posts
May 09 2009 23:53 GMT
#91
Hmm, I got the following after clicking the buttons on the default setting:

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Access denied for user 'h3r1n6'@'localhost' (using password: YES) in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/db.php on line 6

Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/db.php on line 7

Warning: mysql_select_db() [function.mysql-select-db]: A link to the server could not be established in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/db.php on line 7

Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: NO) in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/main.php on line 61

Warning: mysql_query() [function.mysql-query]: A link to the server could not be established in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/main.php on line 61



Warning: mysql_fetch_array(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/main.php on line 70

Warning: mysql_close(): no MySQL-Link resource supplied in /data/apache/users/kilu.de/tltraining/www/main.php on line 65
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 09 2009 23:56 GMT
#92
I accidentally uploaded everything, including my login for my local database for testing purposes, fixed now.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 14:42:00
May 11 2009 14:39 GMT
#93
Hey h3r1n6, ur doing a great job and the frequent updates show that this is not just a one-week-thing, but something with a nice creator who is dedicated to his project

Btw. one tip:
Idk ur code, but earlier you said ur code is not of a very high quality.
I suggest that you try to keep the code so easy and especially "unmessy"(clean) so if this develops into something even bigger then you will save alot of time and frustration.
Better start to organize ur code when its small instead of trying to get it clean when its already too big^^

Then again i completely dont know how messy ur code is but this just a suggestion and you know it yourself
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
May 11 2009 15:01 GMT
#94
I am a protoss, D+/C-
Searching for an opponent of any race (terran, zerg, protoss), ranked around same level or higher to practice together.
Must be girl, preferrably, asian, aged over 18.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
May 11 2009 15:20 GMT
#95
Hi Leath <3
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
mnc dover
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States93 Posts
May 11 2009 19:20 GMT
#96
Hey, you used my suggestion about the dating style format. Cool! Looks good and is easy to understand. Nice work!

Now I need a training partner. Where my D's at? Oh wait, there's a site for that now.
www.mondaynightcrew.com
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 23:02:45
May 11 2009 23:01 GMT
#97
On May 11 2009 23:39 MasterReY wrote:
Btw. one tip:
Idk ur code, but earlier you said ur code is not of a very high quality.
I suggest that you try to keep the code so easy and especially "unmessy"(clean) so if this develops into something even bigger then you will save alot of time and frustration.
Better start to organize ur code when its small instead of trying to get it clean when its already too big^^

Then again i completely dont know how messy ur code is but this just a suggestion and you know it yourself



I've improved a bit in code quality over the versions, separating design and functionality more. I still think it could be a lot better though.

I made a script for stealthbot that can send stuff to the database in a work-aroundish fashion (host doesn't allow to access database externally). With a bot running this script in a channel I could now monitor player activity/send other things to it. Now someone needs to volunteer running a bot .
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 14 2009 17:57 GMT
#98
Bumping this:
I am still in search of someone to set up and keep a channel bot running with a script I wrote. It would have to be on 24/7 and I can help you setting it up.

If that bot runs I can put in a field to show the activity of users. The coding for that is all done, I just need a home and a channel for the bot. I'd suggest just using op irc.
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
May 15 2009 23:21 GMT
#99
Really nice idea. Can you please delete the account lingaliin, I typoed and have created one with a correct name now.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 15 2009 23:53 GMT
#100
On May 16 2009 08:21 lingallin wrote:
Really nice idea. Can you please delete the account lingaliin, I typoed and have created one with a correct name now.


Done.
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
May 19 2009 15:27 GMT
#101
Hi

Some of the people only have their Iccup nicks on the list.
Is it okay for me to just add them to my friendlist ?
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
May 19 2009 15:42 GMT
#102
Yes I don't think they will get mad, just say you got their name from this database.
Yuma
Profile Joined May 2009
United States51 Posts
May 20 2009 02:19 GMT
#103
Im a noob too starcaftBW im a d- player looking for someone of my similiar skill level or even higher skill level to practice with or to teach me a thing or too i go by SantaMuerte on ICCUP.

and high to all on TL ive been a forum lurker for a while now
Death is on your left side about an arms distance behind you.-Don Juan
Gunman_csz
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-21 18:56:59
May 21 2009 18:53 GMT
#104
Same as above, been a long time forum lurker (over an year), but never got into starcraft because I was in wc3. Just started few weeks ago.

Race: Protoss
Iccup ID: gunmancsz
Rank: D/D-

By the way website is not working for me.
Began Starcraft journey on 5th May 2009
Cheezy
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden112 Posts
May 21 2009 23:58 GMT
#105
I don't want to go through the hassle of finding someone and PMing them -.-

I'm currently a D+ protoss/terran player (P is main) and I need big help with my PvZ game. If any zergs are willing to train/play me, PM my iccup profile
I'll accept any ranks that are D+ and up
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
May 22 2009 00:20 GMT
#106
On May 22 2009 03:53 Gunman_csz wrote:
Same as above, been a long time forum lurker (over an year), but never got into starcraft because I was in wc3. Just started few weeks ago.

Race: Protoss
Iccup ID: gunmancsz
Rank: D/D-

By the way website is not working for me.


The server was down, its back up.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 22 2009 00:21 GMT
#107
Any zerg C ranked or higher msg me.
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
May 23 2009 05:23 GMT
#108
That's a pretty nice tool, good job there!

Registred on it
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-28 02:00:48
May 28 2009 01:39 GMT
#109
Update:
-Added measurement for activity. Í won't go into the details how it exactly works, but you need to use (or at least stop by when you are online) the channel:
op art
Where Cascade and I set up a bot.
-some colors for the tables.

If you don't see the colors, you need to hold shift and click refresh. The channel of this project is now:
op art
on Iccup.

PS:
For the activity system to display something useful it will need to collect some data first.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 28 2009 03:14 GMT
#110
woot nice!

this is a great idea!
ggyo...
merach
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States182 Posts
June 12 2009 22:19 GMT
#111
op art is empty btw
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
June 14 2009 04:32 GMT
#112
I'm a Zerg player looking for teacher/training partners zvz,zvp,zvt.

I'm D+ and are looking for C- or better.

Europe time and be very active! Pm me
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
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